In which Matthew interviews Satyros Phil Brucato, the developer for Mage: The Ascension 20th Anniversary Edition.

* Content Warning: Phil discusses his experience with rape and abuse (33:00 to 40:00 and 43:00 to 45:30)
* Matthew talks about how the process works between him as in-house developer and Phil as Mage 20 developer
* Phil writes a lot on his own books. How does he stay objective?
* The Mage brain trust
* Phil gives some writing advice
* How to get into Mage 20
* Book of the Fallen and working with uncomfortable material
* How to run stories of mages coming into their power
* How Phil started on Mage and what he would do differently
* A quick peek at Gods and Monsters
* The Trio recap
* What books and media make you uncomfortable?
* Blooper after the music!