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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to The Nexus is Coming!
    There is already an FAQ online.

    I am not quite clear on how using new art for Nexus publications works, though. If I were to comission art for such a publication, would it also become the property of Onyx Path upon publication like the text of the product?

    That could use some clarification, as I might want to use the same art for non-Nexus publications as well.
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    The Laundry Files are really an excellent source on how government agencies would interact with weird bullshit.

    And I think it would be a fascinating campaign if the party consists of members of the same government agency who interacts with Scions, only for them to be revealed/turned into Scions themselves over the course of the campaign...



    And that's where a federal government agency that keeps track of Scions and the supernatural would be really useful, since they could help with finding the right Scion for the right problem....
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    I like the term "Destiny Entanglement" from The Laundry Files. But each government agency has probably its own official name for the effect... and several unofficial ones.



    The thing is that people who hang out around Scions in high-stress situations are more likely to be Fatebound than others. "Scion Liason Officers" are thus at an especially high risk of being Fatebound, unless they take steps to distance themselves - and even that is only going to work some of the time.

    The government agencies probably aren't looking for "Easily...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    I really don't think that the major governments of the world seek to control the Gods - apart from a few, largely self-correcting attempts. Instead, they would be perceived as "foreign powers" with frequently unclear goals. You can't really get rid of them, outright war instigated by either side would be unwise, so it's best to keep them at an arms length and observe from a safe distance.

    And let's not forget that many of these gods have powerful lobbies in the form of their cults. Do you really want to piss off these potential voters-slash-donor groups?
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    Incidentally, a good example from a slightly different genre (at least, until the Mythos shard is out) is Bob Howard from The Laundry Files series. He gets "destiny entangled" in the second volume of the series (at the latest), and things go progressively worse for him even as he becomes more powerful. The Laundry itself might also make a good model for how government agencies might tackle the supernatural. And they certainly don't seek to kill everything supernatural that they cannot control...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    "Absolute Control" is an illusion - even for intelligence agencies. Maybe American agencies - and during the Cold War, Soviet ones - had the ambition in real world history to "control the world", but for most other intelligence agencies there were always other groups that were beyond their control - that was just something they have to live with.

    And really, the official missions of most intelligence agencies are to "advance the interests of their nation" and "stop threats to their nation". "Stopping a threat" is not the same as "killing...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Fatebinding and Government Agencies
    The agencies themselves do not fully understand fatebinding either. But "people who get involved in the affairs of Scions do so again and again in a statistically highly improbable manner" is something they should be able to figure out - indeed, that kind of statistical analysis is bread and butter to modern-day intelligence agencies.

    And it helps explain the setting of the World - if they understand some of the basic effects of fatekeeping, they will want to keep Scions and their dealings away from government affairs instead of simply seeing them as an exploitable "resource"...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    started a topic Fatebinding and Government Agencies

    Fatebinding and Government Agencies

    Assumption: The intelligence agencies of the major world powers are aware that Fatebinding exists and have a vague idea of how it works. Sane leaders in these organizations (as well as their counterparts in federal law enforcement agencies) also realize that they don't want anything like this near themselves and their organizations, since they don't want to become mere subordinate narratives to nascent gods (insane leaders will likely see this as an opportunity to Harness The Power Of The Gods Themselves. This is likely to backfire spectacularly, and the "Top Secret" files of these agencies...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Though... do you have any sources on "Radegast was a scribal error"? I'd like to get to the bottom of this - if not for Scion, then for my own folklore writings...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Well, I suppose that the good people of Gadebusch will be disappointed to learn that they don't have "Radegast's crown" as one of their church windows then... (see p. 8 of the same source).

    Though folklore - and deities - often started with less. I mean, these days most people are convinced that the figure of the Lorelei is from a really old legend, as opposed to invented in 1801.
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Wikipedia speculates he may have been a god of Hospitality....
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to German folklore in Scion
    A German-language version of the tale can be found in the Grimm's collection here (unlike their Fairy Tale collection, "Deutsche Sagen" was only translated in the 1970s and thus is not available in the public domain).

    To summarize, the "noble knight Tannhäuser" visited all sorts of lands and then ended up at the Venusberg ("Venus Mountain") where he spent a year (presumably much of that time was spent fornicating). But after a while he developed doubts and wanted to leave. Venus pleaded with him to stay, even promising one of her attendants as his wife,...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    In the story starting on p.5 of Mecklenburgische Sagen, Radigast (also called Zuarasiel) is said to be the first among the deities worshiped at Rhetra, and he is also called the "all-powerful". Furthermore, the main temple of the city had pillars on the outside that had the shapes of horns of all sorts of animals....
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Since I brought it up, here are some additional points of Vineta:

    First, there are multiple sites that have been speculated as the possible location for Vineta - this map shows some of them:



    Of course, in the World, any of these might lead to Vineta!

    Furthermore, I've translated this German-language tale of Vineta into English. The full translation will be posted publicly on my Patreon on July 1st (see my signature), but some interesting points include:

    - In the city there lived "Greeks, Slavs, Wends, Saxons, and many other...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to German folklore in Scion
    I'm mostly reading German-language sources - of which there are a massive amount available online and in the public domain. Most of these texts are about folk legends that don't have any obvious links to Slavic mythology (at least any that I would spot), but there are all sorts of references scattered in books that cover the eastern parts of Germany (including quite a few of regions that are no longer part of Germany).

    One that immediately springs to my mind is Vineta, the Atlantis counterpart in the Baltic Sea which has references to Slavic temples....
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Release Schedule
    No mention of the book on Sorcery, so far...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Supernatural Path Ideas?
    I have barely started with reading the Scion rules, but from German folklore you might have Sunday Children ("Sonntagskind") who can perceive the supernatural, or Walrider, who can send their souls out of their bodies and work magic elsewhere.
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Sorcery?
    I recently came across a description of multiple spells and magical effects from German folklore. I can hardly wait to write them up for Scion...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to Everyday life with Gods
    Just caught up with the thread. My take is that, say, Christianity has a lot more syncretism than in our world, especially in Europe and North America (as pointed out above, such syncretism is already common in other parts of our world).

    And while I am not particularly well-versed in Islamic theology, I think Islam acknowledges the existence of supernatural beings in the form of djinn - it just considers any kind of interaction between humans and djinn to be improper. Yet even in the real world, folk beliefs in the Islamic world ignore this prohibition.

    Thus, I'd say...
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  • Jürgen Hubert
    replied to The Nexus is Coming!
    Well, time to start working on my "German folklore in Scion" thing...
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