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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Scion: Dragon in the works
    You make extremely good points here. I must admit I missed that perspective when I first developed my mixed feeling towards the use of the term dragon here, but if is implemented like that, that could actually be a very productive thing. Especially in the view of how Pantheon names have been used to discuss the meaning of "god" and how the opening up of the term "Titan" in 2e has helped problematise that term. With this direction, the book could be not only a good addition, but a fundamental expansion of the game....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Muisca Pantheon
    Hm, the Tehuelche are neighbours to the Mapuche, right? Somewhere to the South of Argentina? That's all I know about them, if even that much is accurate ^^'...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to My Missing Pantheons
    Nope, sorry....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Muisca Pantheon
    Hm, there are records. There's been a wonderful series of publications (though very scholarly), the "Folk Literature of the South American Indians" series. Not to mention all the other ethnographic data, the colonial records etc. It's just that we're speaking of a huge continent here, culturally different from our own ones, one that is rarely addressed in our popular culture, and so we don't really know where to begin. Like, yeah, there's that book series. I barely know the names of any of the peoples it treats. Where do I start? No clue....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Muisca Pantheon
    No others I could think of as "definite", and even out of of the four you name, all but the Inca require a lot of special skills to do. If you count the Caribbean towards South America, there are of course the Taíno who I've talked about enough. Otherwise, there are myriad peoples, but none I know enough to call them substantial or even "definite" yet. My prime option beside these, however, are the Selknam of Tierra de Fuego, a hunter-gatherer people that has suffered genocide, but that we seem to have quite a bit of mythological material on....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to [2E] New Purviews
    I think it's hard to work into a Purview that would then be distributed to existing deities as well, since that is a very scientific, and not a mythological way of viewing light. Jumping off Sun and specialising it via Marvels etc. to make a new, modern deity of modern conceptions of light makes more sense, at least to me....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Muisca Pantheon
    Oof, lots of things. The fact that they present them as "god/goddess of" is very misleading, especially in the case of figures like Huitaca. Also, they treat pretty much every name given in the sources as a separate deity, in spite of those very same sources usually grouping two, three or four of these names as synonymous apellations for the same figure. In general, everything about Wikipedia's Muisca articles is fishy, especially the insistence that they are "one of the four great civilisations of the Americas, alongside the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca". (Such rankings are nonsensical...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Muisca Pantheon
    The Wikipedia page is seriously twisting some of the information there, just so you know. I've read the basic sources for the Muisca Pantheon (tentatively titled "Suetyba" by me) and I consider them an option for a project, but I can't promise anything yet They are definitely fascinating, though, offering a lot of complex themes that make them unique.
    As for their relation to the Inca, I haven't read anything about that in particular. They definitely had some long-distance trade going on, if I remember correctly, but you must remember that the actual "Inca" (and not...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    India: This being is incomprhensible because it is a thousand thousand things at once, it's body being made of all the other gods, thus containing the whole universe.

    Lovecraft: This being is incomprehensible because it's head is a squid. I am afraid of sea food....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    Also, there is the whole problem of false equivalencies. Firstly, the "gods" of the Lovecraftian cosmos do not scale with the gods of world mythology. Whereas myths are always about humanity and what it can and cannot achieve in some way, Lovecraft's beings are intented to be creatures of pure science, even the science mysterious to and beyond humanity; they do not care and there is no magic to them, they are the stuff the universe, the tangible, scientific universe is made of. Depending on how you read them, they are either infinitely beyond the gods of mythology, being present in multiple...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Other African pantheons?
    Akonnedi is weird and I'll leave it to your reading of my full write-up of her in a year or so to explain her fully. Suffice to say, she doesn't fit in anywhere. She is a non-Akan goddess adapted into Akan-Ashanti religion, yet still speaking in a foreign language through her oracle. She is a goddess of liberation from social norms in a rigidly stratified slaving society. She is weird. She also helped inaugurate the first President of Ghana. Tutu is a war fetish turned god, a blood-thirsty deity of fighting, fertility, and booze, and kind of another template for a whole category of such deities...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Other African pantheons?
    Funny you should ask that, I was just today thinking I should do a Abosom spoiler again these days A lot has changed since we made that statement. The finalised version which will enter editing sometime this year includes five figures, Anansi, Nyame, Asase Ya, Tano, and Akonnedi, as Major Gods, and the god Tutu as well as the Nananom (local guardian deities) and Ntoro deities as templates for Minor Gods. Also, I am by now very unhappy with our work on the San Pantheon so far, so I'm not sure anymore if and how soon they will happen, especially since Watcher is currently all but out of commission...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Pantheons conflicts regions
    Why the Bön deities, though? They got just as fucked over by Tibetan Buddhism....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Pantheons conflicts regions
    Wasn't Tibetan Buddhism a major factor in the disappearance of traditional Mongolian religious practices? It was like that for the Manchu, at least, and I thought I remembered reading something similar about Mongolia....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Pantheons conflicts regions
    Well, if we're gonna specify to the Guaraní, we can stop with the comparisons and just say: the Anga, partially outlined here (though still in 1e format): http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...e-guarani-gods and possibly slated for God if I remember correctly. Though Brazil obviously has a huge number of other peoples, from the Ge, Arawakan, Carib, and multiple other language groups....
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Well, as far as I know, the whole problem with Chors is that his function is never named, and that everyone goes guessing at whether they are a sun, moon, or thunder deity all the time. So I wouldn't say any of these interpretations is publicly acclaimed, because they're all just guesswork. Do you know of any print editions of these Polish sources, though? Or would you even mind giving a rough translation of the relevant passages regarding Chors, if you have the books on hand?
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Also, since the sources you give seem to be the Nestorian Primary Chronicle, the Epic of Igor, and so on, why do you call them "Polish sources"?
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    As far as I know, making Chors a moon deity is later conjecture. And you kinda missed my actual question there, is Chors mentioned by name in those "tales" or not?
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Since I sadly don't speak Polish, you'll have to walk me through that, sorry Who is associated with those creatures? Explicitely the name Chors, or just the moon as an entity which you have chosen to associate with Chors?...
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  • Sacerdos
    replied to Exemplary Titans
    What monstrous children? And where are you getting the "mad" bit from? I thought we had pretty much just the name and some speculation for Chors?...
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