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  • Yeah I assume pre-European contact, the Anansi and the Mokole were the dominant Fera in Australia....
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  • I’m leaning toward Dusk Keepers right now, but something Wind did cross my mind...
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  • honestly the thought of going “how many tribes based on Northern European early medieval Sagas do we need?” and throwing the Fianna and the Get together as the White Howlers (with some more culturally specific camps) has crossed my mind. But I’d need to come up with a new origin for the Spiral Dancers...
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  • Renaming the Indigenous Tribes

    So for the unaware, the name of "Older Brother" and "Younger Brother" in Werewolf the Apocalypse, are... not terms that were appropriate for largely white writers to do what they wanted with, and not really appropriate for the game table. So I'm looking to tweak the setting a bit at my table to be more respectful to Native concerns, while keeping what is cool about the two Garou tribes in question.

    For Older Brother, my best idea so far is "Whisper Keepers", but I'm told the end sound repetition doesn't make it sound great. So I'm open to other suggestions....
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  • this falls under “the rules are whatever the hell a writer or storyteller says they are”, and I’m comfortable with “they can if you grow a meat body and brain from scratch for them - that’s what makes the Ferectoi so different from other Fomori”...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Knacks slots by calling dots?
    You can break that rule a bit if you have a Guide that teaches another Calling - and use your knack slots for Knacks for that Calling without having to actually have the Calling as one of your three.
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  • Here's how I tweak the rules to make it fit the setting more.

    Coincidental and Vulgar-without-Witnesses work as in M20 rules.

    Successful Vulgar-With-Witnesses gives you the rating of the highest Sphere used in the effect in Paradox MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF DIGITS in the Sleeper count. So if your effect has hundreds of sleeper witnesses, you triple the Paradox. A thousand you multiply by 4, etc.




    You can try, but that would be hard with coincidental effects. If the rules reflected the setting, the problem with...
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  • Sorry for the thread necromancy, but it’s a thought that’s been brewing and I don’t think it deserved a new thread.

    as I see it, the way the Ferectoi make sense, is they aren’t really a possessed human at all. At least not in a metaphysical sense. They’re just a Bane that got a human fleshsuit grown around them. There was never a human soul in there to corrupt or redeem. It’s just Bane and meat. So how redeemable they are proceed from the question of how much individual free will and capacity to redeem a bane has.
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  • yes

    But many people in the Western world, particularly in the US, talk about happiness like it’s an achieved state of being, and not a specific emotion that is experienced in passing like all others. The state of being content with your life without feeling a need for struggle, which is what people often mean when they say “happiness”, is in contrast not something Garou are generally going to know. They will eventually rage again and need to struggle and fight, and most likely will die in battle rather than peacefully in a bed surrounded by great-grandchildren.
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  • Well... one caveat. Reality Zones. If the the local Consensus specifically allows for life saving miracles, performing a life saving miracle might be coincidental. Choristers praying in a manner consistent with the local dominant faith to call down a miracle, are the most likely to benefit from this.
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  • No, unless the Storyteller decides to force a Paradox roll at that moment and have the Paradox take a form that distorts the spell and kills the Sleeper (or lets them die from whatever was going to kill them previously) - but I’d only do that with player consent for drama for their character, it’s certainly not the default for Paradox.

    they remember what happened. Sleepers not remembering Awakened Magic is a Mage the Awakening thing, not Mage the Ascenson

    see above

    no, the Consensus has no moral parameters. Vulgar with witnesses is Vulgar with witnesses....
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask a Dev
    Would it be accurate to interpret that as an aspect of the environment rather than inherent power Stalwarts and Mesmerists have, since even Novas and Psiads on Inspiration Age Earth have access to it?...
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  • I just emphasize that Enlightened Scientists who resist the Union's authoritarian agenda are welcomed in the Virtual Adept and the Society of Ether even if they don't indulge the less consistent with mainstream scientific consensus aspects of those Traditions. It's just safer to make sure you're part of a stronger faction because an Orphan Enlightened Scientist is very vulnerable to conscription by the Union....
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  • As I use the Union it represents the paradigm of the enlightenment as corrupted by imperialism (which is historically what happened), so it’s actively antagonistic as it needs to be but also worth fighting to save for Technocratic games.
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to M20 Books for the future?
    In a ridiculous never going to happen series of books I'd want if we were still on the supplement treadmill

    - Book on the High Umbra, and Umbrood Courts, + the Shard and Shade Realms of Mind
    - WtA crossover book, examining Mages in Middle Umbra and interaction with Triat struggles, + Shard and Shade Realms of Spirit
    - WtO crossover book, examining Mages in the Low Umbra, + Shard and Shade Realms of Entropy
    - Digital Web 3.0, Mount Qaf, and the Shard and Shade Realms of Correspondence
    - Hollow Earth, and the Shard and Shade Realms of Matter
    - Book on time...
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  • Victorian Mage nominally covers the whole of Victoria's reign from 1837-1901, but puts it's main focus on the window between the Albertan Reformation (1851) and the Victorian Reformation (beginning in 1885 but culminating in 1897) that created the modern Technocratic Union....
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  • I want to focus on things people can't just look up themselves - i.e. Mage society, how it intersects with important events in sleeper history, the Paradigmatic elements of the era and rotes, etc. I'm using public domain illustrations and photos from the era for the books' art though, so that will hopefully help....
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Christian Werewolves
    A Christian Silent Strider NPC I had believed Gaia was the Holy Spirit in the Trinity (which often was referred to in the feminine in the Middle Ages), and the Mother to Jehovah’s Father role. He was firm that Mary was not literally the Holy Spirit/Gaia, but respected Catholics in particular approaching the latter through that representation if it helped conceptualize her.

    The corruption of the Wyrm is of course the fall of a third of Heaven’s Host in Revelation.

    He’s not sure but has considered that as mixtures of spirit and flesh that the Fera could be the Nephilim...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Christian Werewolves
    As far as (most of) the Black Furies are concerned, the Weaver Incarna known as “the Patriarch”, is probably Abrahamic God. He’d probably also be the August Personage of Jade in their worldview, but don’t mention that around the Beast Courts.

    Black Furies holding an Incarna of the Namer (Weaver - they prefer Namer because weaving is historically a woman’s craft, and the cosmic force of Stasis, Tech, Dogma, and Authority to impose definition on others is very masculine to them) more responsible for the unaging Leeches than the Wyrm is very onbrand for them....
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to M20 Books for the future?
    so the Crafts book would be on those Crafts who aren’t in the Disparate alliance?...
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