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  • I... know that, that’s why i said the associations were provided by the Alchemical Castes.
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  • If you want to associate Jade with Metal specifically in Autochthonian Evocation/Charm tech, the other elements have magical material associations provided by the Alchemicals Castes too.

    Crystal - Adamant
    Lightning - Orichalcum
    Oil - Moonsilver
    Smoke - Soulsteel
    Steam - Starmetal

    Obviously the Steam/Starmetal association is the weakest, but it’s necessary to make the rest of the pattern work (1st Edition associated the Starmetal Caste with Crystal, but the canonization of the Adamant Caste made changing that necessary).
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  • So thinking about it, I realized that I was thinking too much like someone from our word or Creation when i was resistant to associating Green Jade with Smoke. Autochthonia doesn’t have plant life for people to associate “green” with natural vibrancy the way we do. Toxic clouds would be among the most natural associations for the color for them, and appropriately enough its green jade that poison-based Evocations typically come from.

    So

    Blue - Lightning
    Black - Oil
    Green - Smoke
    Red - Steam
    White - Metal

    Which leaves Crystal...
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  • The ones that fit well are...

    Black: fluidity themed evocations (Oil)
    Blue: cognition and lightning themed evocations (Lightning)
    Red: heat & pressure themed evocations (Steam)
    White: stability, strength, and magnetism themed evocations (Metal)

    As most "crystaline" themed evocations will come from Adamant Artifacts, and most death & refuse themed evocations will come from Soulsteel Artifacts - that leaves Green Jade kind of the weird one out.
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  • "Crystal" themed evocations would probably also overlap heavily with Adamant Artifact evocations.
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  • Well organized proslytizing monotheism (Christianity and Islam) have lumped together polytheism and devil worship for a good bulk of their histories. So it makes sense that someone invoking satanic imagery for shock value against social norms would make the same conflation....
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Can an Exalted capable of learning Eclipse Keyword Charms teach those they know to other Eclipse/equivalents?...
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  • Ishtar and Aphrodite was certainly the conflation the Ancient Greeks themselves made. Not to the same degree of drawing directly on Mesopotamian myths the way the Romans cribbed from the Greeks on a claim of direct continuity - but when they wrote of Phoenician and Babylonian religion, they’d refer to temple prositutes of Aphrodite, because that was simply the assumption they made as to the “true identity” of any sex goddess they encountered.

    Ovid’s rendition of the Adonis story is probably directly cribbed from Near East story of Lord (Adonai) Dumuzid being the lover of...
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  • I’m cool seeing more magitech (without using that word) eventually, but I think they made the right call doing a firm foundation of conventional artifacts first, so that when magitech stuff appears it’s particularly noteworthy rather than Creation’s default, which is the impression that 2E accidentally gave by publishing Wonders of the Lost Age as the first book after the core and not doing Oadenol’s Codex till much later.


    That said at my own table, Lookshy always has at least one airship circling overhead. Not their fleet is actually that sizable anymore, but the...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Autochthonia and how to represent its potential contact with Creation perhaps?...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask the Devs
    I’m just trying to wrap my head around how that fits with the diverse nature of initiations in 3E.

    Does the Salinan working serve to facilitate an aspirant finding some initiation if they follow the natural signs and geased spirits, without itself being directly linked to any given initiation?

    Or does it more just serve to provide access to learning spells through the natural world for any Sorcerer to learn without an arcane text or Sorcerer mentor?...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Fixing the Wu-Keng
    Yes, but as the only craft specifically defined by the requirement to cross traditional gender boundaries, they unfortunately come off as representative of East Asian transgender shamanic traditions. And cis men made to dress as women by an authority figure or because they’re perverse is unfortunately how transphobes see trans identity, so while “that’s not actual trans people” may be true for us who know better, it comes off as the setting’s backward and ignorant representation of assigned-gender-crossing animistic customs, regardless of intention.

    Maybe if stronger focus...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask the Devs
    What did th Salinan Working actually do in 3rd edition? Were there not the various possible initiations until Salina reshaped reality? Or did mortals not have the ability to initiate?
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Help my players defeat the Dowager!
    Or give them a situation where they can defeat her without direct combat against her. Maybe she’s delved into the Well, and the PCs could defeat her minions and smash and block the Creation side of the Welltrapping her wherever it leads for the foreseeable future?

    To use the aforementioned Lord of the Rings analogy, remember Frodo and Sam didn’t need the power to destroy Sauron in direct combat to defeat him.
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Dragon-Bloods: Request a Charm
    LOVE what you did with the Occult Charms to utilize Aura. I’m inclined to treat the Charms as aspected toward the elementals being utilized toward instead of defaulting to Wood, but that’s a minor quibble.

    The Water Melee Charm is pretty terrifying, but I suppose the Aura keyword and reset requirement keeps it in check. Well done!
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Ask the Devs
    That’s been confirmed on another thread....
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Dragon-Bloods: Request a Charm
    I had an idea for a water-melee Charm that facilitates your weapon flowing around a parry... but I have no idea how to balance that without pulling the 2E bullshit of making your charm fail against a potent opponent you might actually need it against.
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Dragon-Bloods: Request a Charm
    Instead of true restoration of limbs, how about prosthetics made of an element (Plant matter is the most obvious, but Ming Hua Style Water tendrils are always cool!)?...
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Dragon-Bloods: Request a Charm
    An Occult Charm (or two Charms to tier the effects perhaps) to tame unbound Elementals by invoking the authority of the appropriate Dragon. I’m imagining it initially only working with the DB’s Aspect elementals, with purchasable upgrades for the other elements - but if you make the charm weaker it could just count as situationally aligned with whatever element the elemental is.

    If you do separate Charms I was thinking the lower essence one is just a “don’t attack” one, with the more powerful one being an upgrade making it able to command actions.
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  • glamourweaver
    replied to Help my players defeat the Dowager!
    We haven’t had any statted Deathlords yet in 3E. We know they will have distinct personal Charms ala powerful spirits, and NOT entire Solar/Abyssal Charmets this time. Deathlord-level immortality is still a thing, but the devs have said that they will make it more meaningful if warrior Exalted take down a Deathlords through conventional means (I.e. i’m guessing they will still eventually come back, but it might take far longer, so taking one down through raw violence + GET is more meaningful).

    I’d recommend, if you want the players to take her out permanently, laying clues...
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