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  • It isn't that they don't want consequences, but rather that they don't want the same kind of society the garou have. Again, I'm not saying WtA should be like that, at all. I am saying that the people who do the Werewolf VS magazine, Werewolf News, etc. have a very different take on werewolves that would not fit WtA. That is not that WtA is bad, it is just more different from the assumed....
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  • Oh yeah, I didn't mean that WtA should be like that. Just that the expectation for werewolves vs what WtA is, is different from vampire or mage.

    The problem is how to easily explain these facts without drowning the ST/players in lore. I mean, things like the Litany and the Philodox auspice alone require a lot of lore reading. An experienced ST can handle that, but a newbie one?...
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  • I've had people tell me "Who the heck wants to play a human hating Gaia worshipper, why don't they just kill all humans?" It isn't really about that full moon night that the RP is focused on, the werewolves can shift outside it. But it isn't like the garou instant one, their wolf self could take over. Then you play that, a feral creature that is as smart as a human but not one. There is also the moral freedom. Like I said, cannibalism for those who embrace being a monster, or mysticism.

    That is just one version, of course. But my point is that the garou don't as easily match...
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  • I really don't see a point of making a new edition yet, but that is just me. If they recanonized Shattered Dreams and not repeat Changing Ways mess, 20th lines wouldn't be too bad.


    For the BNS changes, I don't mind some. Silver Fang inbred-trait being either physical OR mental is a welcome thing, given how hard mental illness is to play. Bone Gnawers being lower middle-class isn't bad, as it addresses the obvious 'lol lowest are bums' issue. It is when it is things like the Red Talons or the Fenrir, where such mess was not needed, that my issues lay in....
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  • It can, if the core of the experience is about dealing with the fact you had your humanity taken away from you. I have seen people play it,too. Or put it into a short story on what happens and who gets hurt. It really isn't about playing the night of ANGER, but rather everything surrounding it, how the character deals with everything being changed. Are they part of a werewolf pack,etc....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    I have run into people who don't like the whole Warriors of Gaia aspect, prerferring werewolves to be more neutral. Some don't like that werewolves cannot infect people*. Others want the wolf and the human sides to be two different entities fighting for control of the body, Others don't like that things like cannibalism aren't ok. I've met many who very much WANT their characters to struggle with the monthly change and the danger of losing control.

    It isn't everyone, but my point was that if you pick up Vampire you generally know what you pick. If you pick werewolf you need to read...
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    Double post, but I figured this needed its own post;

    The biggest hurdle WtA suffers from, compared to Vampire, is that learning the setting takes way longer. This is because WtA isn't exactly what it says on the tin. As I have stated before, garou are more a fantasy race than traditional werewolves. I have done my best to study the myths for non-WtA projects, and garou really aren't what one expects when you pick up the game called werewolf. In contrast, though VtM gets silly as all hell, in general you are still playing the expected type of vampire. You can also play vampire without...
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    This here, though found in the first page of this thread, is very much something I'd like to bring attention to.

    I have stated multiple times before my motto for WtA games, but it bears repeating here; "WtA has been played for 20 years by people around the world, the way you see the setting is not universal"

    This goes into the above great post. The setting has these elements already, the problem is that the STs might not use them. In a game as huge as WtA, you can end up seeing it a very different light, if the one running the game does not enforce the setting....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    AND Crusader Kings I&II and Mount and Blade and its sequels. This is not a company that is very squeamish about topics. This is why I was happy -Paradox- took on World of Darkness.

    Which is why the nuWW was such a disappointment for me....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    It is political only in the sense that insulting real people by implying -vampires- caused a genocide, or a peadophile vampire as a playtest pc or any other mess is. Yes, it is a statement of viewpoints, but I'd say it is less pandering and more 'hey, we have seen you guys cannot handle yourselves properly'....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    I mean... that is the WtA Legacy. VtM had two games, WtA TRIED to have 2 games, failed at both....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    You assume there wasn't oversight to begin with. Paradox knew what it bought, the company that had written Shoah and such serious books. I don't think they are sanitizing the future WoD books, rather they will take more care in hiring people.

    I mean, they wouldn't restructure the entire staff if it was just that one mistake with Chenya. It was just the last straw of the messes the nuWW had done.



    I think they will either source it to Onyx Path or do it in house. I don't think they'd outsource it entirely, given its importance....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    I think the chickens have come home to roost, more like it. NuWW made their choices and showed poor judgement, which caused fan uproar that was justified. Chenya being misused was most likely the last straw.



    There is a difference between censorship of anything dark and avoiding topics which are very raw to a lot of real people who went through a horrible war/genocide....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    Back to the topic, as funny as the "SJWs in VAMPIRE!?!" videos are, I find it very interesting how much of nuWW is focusing on making choices that are very edgy compared to the 20th editions.

    As for why I am such a gun-ho 'no cismen in Furies' proponent, it has to do with the the roles each tribe plays in the game. A Fenrir, a Fianna and a Wendigo are all from warrior tribes, but they cannot be compared to one another by how they act/their culture. It is to make playing them clearer and easier. Furies, if they accept men, end up basically as far more angry Children of Gaia....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    They were forced to become a tribe, because they refused to make their case known. Despite living like wolves, Talons are very much as intelligent as humans. This is what I like about them, despite their obvious issues, they very much caused many of those by denial. Like the Litany, they were summoned, they thought it was too human. What happened was that, like in all wolf packs, the majority won....
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  • Ana Mizuki
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    More like "These guys are TRADITIONALISTS! and THESE guys are PROGRESSIVES!....but they can still pack up." Then they messed up the Talons because OBVIOUSLY they would just ally with a faction torturing humans to feed the land all wyrmy way. When previously that camp had been a secret society for a reason.



    Well, not to get political, but the Talons could have loped to the Litany meeting to get answers. Instead they refused since it was 'too human' and now they bitch and moan no one asked -them- how the Litany should go.

    I love the Talons, but they...
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    Add to it that now Fera can officially join in packs among Sanctum of Gaia. Mind, THAT I do not mind. But the rewriting of Black Furies, Glass Walkers, Red Talons,etc. is the issue....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    The Impegrium separated humans from Gaia in a very real way, the Delirium is the result of that. There can never be unity between garou and humans, since they have cemented in humanity's mind that they are monsters. Plus, the Impegrium was when the Nation truly split into separate tribes and the Litany was written....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Werewolf 5th Edition????
    They still had the phrase "Black Furies use the few homid males they have for breeding with their lupus kinfolk" in the first published version of Changing Ways. In the BNS setting, Furies now accept males to their tribe, which is not canon in the 20th. Given how long Changing Ways was in production, this is a very recent addition to the book. It was fixed to 'black fury BLOODED male homids' after being corrected in the Errata thread. There is also a suggested disaster which makes the Gauntlet harder to cross (as it is in the BNS setting.)

    For the second Impegrium, I just...
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  • Imho, the tribal weaknesses are not only rather janky, but unlike with vampires you can join a tribe while having heritage in another. Aside from Children of Osiris, every member of a clan is still a member of a clan bloodline. But many Gnawers, Coggies,etc. can come from variety of backgrounds. So having an unified weakness makes much less sense with garou. The only somewhat good one is the Silent Strider one, but it has a LOT of set up in the books.

    However, I personally like the idea that each tribe follows the ban of their totem at least a bit. That, similar to the tribal vow...
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