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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    The best socially solvable quest has to be the gargoyle one. Nothing like blackmailing Strauss over the Gargoyle, then convincing it to join the Anarchs AND telling Isaac who created it. All of this with just your guile and cleverness as your weapons....
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  • Literally the only reason I can think of is the hype/smoke screen for VTMB2. The creators cannot be ignorant of the abysmal luck WtA games have had, so hyping Earthblood up with no concrete proof of success makes no sense unless it was to distract people.

    But, again, doing it with a WtA game? Either they had expected the game to be finished faster OR they were going to rely on the fact that WtA games just tend to fail. If you did it with a Mage or a Changeling game, there might be more uproar.

    Plus, this isn't helped by the fact that we have no idea why Heart of Gaia...
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  • Most likely, because of the WtA videogame history so far. Compared to Vampire (Or, heck, HUNTER) WtA has gotten snubbed time and again. So it being the the first game to be announced proper might have been an effort to draw the WtA fans to the WW/Paradox side....
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    I mean, Redemption had a coterie and the story worked fine with it. In 2004, Bloodlines not having allies made sense as it was actually the very -first- game that used Half-Life 2's engine.

    But what I meant is that our PC could be actually a full member of the Camarilla, with peers to speak to and compete with. Rather than a glorified FedEx for elders of each faction. As much as I love Bloodlines, the fact is that it was very lonely as the PC was basically a pariah leashed by LaCroix. They met no fellow young vampires nor really got into the general life of a regular vampire. At most...
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    In addition, the only ghoul you get is female and is killed off near the end for emotional points. The only female toreador NPC is dressed in skimpy clothing (yes, I know she owns a strip club, but compare her to Isaac), no male strippers in sight, female armours are more skimpy than the male ones.

    It is a game from the 2004, so yeah the content is a bit dated. That is why updating it is just smart, the world has changed a -lot.-


    Personal things I want from the game? Actual role in the politics and actual vampire party members/allies. Bloodlines was amazing, but...
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  • Especially as a Werewolf game has been a known failure. So using one as a distraction from the more succesfulgame to get videogames out of is in rather poor taste....
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  • Focus on werewolves who don't want to join the Forsaken OR the Pure, who just want to live how they wish. Shunned by the Moon seems to cover this.

    Reluctant werewolves might seem boring, but if you use them well, they can serve as a great reminder to the main pack how much humanity they have lost or even how easily power corrupts.

    Werewolves who want to cure their condition, maybe through science or through magic/religion.

    As in the same vein, werewolves who want to dismantle both factions for no other reason than because they see what they do as terrible....
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  • https://archiveofourown.org/ Is good,too!
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  • Ana Mizuki
    replied to Removing Grimderp
    The biggest grimderp that I know is PENTEX. Mainly because to me there need not be a malicious intent at all for companies to screw over people, the enviroment and so on. First Teams just add to the mess.

    My fix has always been simple, remove the giant company, remove First Teams and any 'destroy the Earth' intent. Done. To me, the very real horror of regular stores selling tainted stuff with no ill will and ignorance is scarier. Because there is no one to point there and call bad.
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  • In addition of greater chances of disability, starvation, PTSD and capture by hostile forces. Building muscle mass in those condition would be pretty hard in the long run.

    This is also assuming the garou is homid, lupus garou might look extremely wiry or have a build more like a farmer than a body builder. Metis might suffer malnurition or denial of proper vitamins while growing up....
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  • Oh, absolutely. But I focused mainly on the capital city of Helsinki and the surrounding areas.

    Map here: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uudenm...suomi.2011.svg

    Where one might find Fangs would be Kotka (closest to Russia), Vaasa (the old OLD capital) or Turku (the old Capital.) Uktena and Wendigo would be found far far up, in Rovaniemi and above. Sure, some might appear in Helsinki, but not in any greater numbers....
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  • Also assuming the garou twin doesn't end up battle scarred before their kin twin can reach them. Depending on the auspice, it might be very likely indeed....
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  • I mean, every garou gets a +4 to the Strength stat in crinos, so they'd be at 5 even if their str was 1 in homid. In theory, if you character is a metis, they very well could reach str 10 in their birth form.

    Then there are various gifts and fetishes, but those would count as steroids.

    I guess an ahroun could end up being in peak condition for a human more easily, just from the amount of -work- being an ahroun takes....
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  • Not USA, but I figure if anyone want to involve Finland in the mix, having uusimaa statted out could help.

    Get of Fenris: I mean, Finland is one of their tribal countries, so obviously. Though in the very south of Uusimaa, they would mostly hang out in the woods of Espoo and so on. Assume them being around but not actually in 'power' as it were.

    Glass Walkers: At least in Helsinki, there is not only a lot of technological development, but a lot of support for it. So there would be a large GW presence in the capital.

    Bone Gnawers: In a bit of a pickle, though...
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    Last edited by Ana Mizuki; 03-15-2019, 09:44 AM.

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  • No, in Vampire that wasn't the case. But from what I understand, the slated writer for Werewolf did do a lot to give concepts to BNS. Not only that, but one of the changes to the tribes (Black Furies have non-metis male members) snuck into Changing Ways.

    Trippy It wasn't a 'I don't like this content' type of thing for me. It was very much a 'the handling of this content is poor' thing....
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  • Yeah, the scenarios are very much End of Times scenarios. That matters in WtA more than in VtM for two reasons.

    One, Vampire can absolutely be played without 90% of its lore. The game does not suffer from it. WtA NEEDS its lore, given the garou are very much -not- typical werewolves. They have a living society with its own rules and morals. Unlike in Vampire, you CANNOT play the main story without being heavily involved in the sept politics. As WtA isn't about being a werewolf, it is about fighting a desperate battle.

    Second, the subtitle is Apocalypse. VtM is not called...
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  • I admit I feel those titles are deserved by the previous WW management. Mostly, because the content presented (in the MET book that seemed to be heading for canon) and the tone. Impegrium 2, in modern days. A VERY uncomfortably handled mention of beastiality rape according to the book itself (changing ways) and bizarre changed to the tribes. Nevermind all the Vampire related stuff.

    So it is not edgelords as in 'I disagree with this content' but as in 'I feel this content was made to cause a kneejerk reaction more than give depth to the setting.'...
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  • Book of the Wyrm 1st edition....
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