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  • Probably not shaping, but I was thinking like aging somebody 10,000 years, or melting their bones into jelly, but just making it not shaping. In the way that a Solar would use a charm to swing a sword and make it an ethereal concept attack through some Occult charm....
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  • Could you then say that an elder mage from World of Darkness could use arcane magic to alter their spells and make them not Shaping attacks?...
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  • Yeah basically.

    Like, imagine this. There's another RPG system where the primary form of combat resolution is something called Soul Combat. Everyone who matters at all in the setting can engage in it, and it's just like a battle of wills when you meet eachother, nothing physical involved. It's also highly effective, to the point where if somebody engaged you in physical combat you'd just have to respond by engaging them in soul combat and either destroy them because they were a mook who thought swords could hurt you, or they aren't a mook and would need soul combat to defend themselves....
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    I'm pretty sure you have it right, decisive clash and withering counterattack. Withering reflexive clashes are really rare and very limited usually....
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    I’m pretty sure this is beyond the scope of the thread, but you might look at what some other people have done.

    https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?thre...system.768601/

    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...ing-leadership

    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...aucracy-system

    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...aucracy-system

    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-categor...
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  • I'm actually pretty okay with this, as long as it's spread around evenly.

    For example, a broken soulbreaker orb is about to go off, it will kill everyone in its radius, BUT, the Twilight is there, and he introduces a fact about this kind of Soulbreaker orb's failsafe triggers, which require a special orichalcum key to use, which he then uses Craft to whip up in seconds, and activates Supernal Control Method to hammer down that difficulty 8 Occult roll, saving everyone.

    Then the fey enchantress attempts to cloud the hearts of the circle to make them apathetic and just...
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  • I mean, yeah, but the TTGL team also created the whole hyperspace dimension within themselves in order to break out of a labyrinth made of 11th dimensional space. Which is complete bullshit from a writing standpoint, and gibberish from a physics standpoint, but still beyond the scope of what Solars are depicted as being able to do. Even with the craziest of crazy Dreams of the First Age stuff no Solar was ever in danger of wiping out the entire plane of Creation because they missed a punch and hit the ground.

    Which is just a weird place to be in versus battles wise. Multiple sonic...
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  • Maybe not under a blanket but I'd consider all of these guys to be within a single range band of each other. Although rangebands are also contextual, so that might change with terrain. For example being on top of a 10 foot wall puts you at Short range, even though 10 feet isn't enough distance to do so if you're at the same elevation.

    Either way, if PCs are spreading themselves over a wide area to engage foes spread over a wide area Defend Other shouldn't even really be a thing, should it? You can't Defend Other at range.

    Of course that's also assuming that the characters...
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  • Normally I find that most characters end up in the same range band if they're close combat focused, so there tends to be choice, and also under most circumstances if you're delaying to clash you can't also be using Defend Other because that's an action that only lasts a turn. Although some stuff kind of screws with this like War Lion Stance. Which for Solars is made even worse because they have charms like Over-and-Under Method where they can reflexively defend other, then reflexively clash AND follow up that clash with a counterattack.

    On the other hand trying to balance Solars against...
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  • This is much less of a problem in group on group fights. If somebody delays to clash me I’ll just attack one of the other targets.
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  • I think the most comprehensive descriptions make it out to be pretty humanoid, like it has what was described as "hands" it's on all fours, but it's also crippled so it's possible it's just on its hands and knees. It's also a rotting corpse, so I imagine a lot of decayed flesh attached to bones.
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  • Yeah, and Goku isn't even CLOSE to the craziest stuff, he's just more well known. Look at Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, in the final fight of that series the main character (basically) is squaring off against the big bad, both of them so giant that entire galaxies are floating around them like snowflakes. The MC at that point could have 400 billion star systems hurled at their chest and not only would they not flinch, they might not even realize something just happened.

    Which is to say that TTGL vs Exalted wouldn't shake out like just a fight where the Brawl Supernal suplexes the TTGL...
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Dragonblooded Characters
    What's the theme of the one shot? Also what would they be fighting? Like I have a couple but one is a pretty hardcore dedicated sailor and stuff. I've got a bit of time it might just be easier to drop a few here that fit your idea....
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Dragonblooded Characters
    I have a couple, what were you planning on using them for, and in what kind of game?...
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  • I'd be more okay with it if it either had some kind of proportonality to it. Like if a Solar wanted to fistfight Goku that's a fight he very well may lose. In the Freiza arc he could blow up a planet and there's been a half dozen story arcs since then where he's gotten more powerful each time, sometimes drastically more powerful.

    Meaning if he fired a full power kamehameha at Creation everyone without a PD and the subsequent ability to live in an airless hellscape is dead, along with basically the setting. You're actually going to have to put in some effort to beat Super Saiyan Blue...
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Dragonblooded Demographic Calculations
    Yeah, the Order especially is a big one. It includes everyone from the Mouth of Peace, to wandering itinerant monks, to the guys holed up in mountains for decades practicing the same kick 10,000 times to perfection. I think it's probably the largest single organization in the whole world?

    Also the Thousand Scales is massive. I mentioned a few ministries but there are literally hundreds, some of them small enough that they probably don't have any exalts in them, but others contain several. By virtue of having every satrap in it the Wise and Knowledgeable Advisors off Foreign Tributaries...
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Dragonblooded Demographic Calculations
    So to start we have:

    1,400 DBs as students
    1,000 in position as satrap + garrison commander
    1,900 in mainline army forces

    For the navy the numbers we have is that the second smallest fleet is the Merchent Fleet at just under 1,000 ships, and the Water fleet is by far the largest. So let's say something like

    800 Earth
    950 Merchant
    1,200 Fire
    1,200 Wood
    1,300 Air
    1,600 Water

    We total 7,050 ships. Each of these carrying 25-100-500 soldiers on their three sizes about. We'll say the breakdown goes like this...
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Exalted: Arena
    Yeah I think so, but there's also a lot of complexity there. With the right setup against the right, otherwise powerful, opponents a DB can go 1v5 against Solars. I think it proooobably shakes out something like a very powerful celestial build can take on three combat focused but non-optimal terrestrials at Essence 2, but it tips to the terrestrial's favour at Essence 3, or 5 terrestrials.

    There's also a lot of variables here. For example a Celestial might be packing 5-dot artifacts, and be empowered not only by Wood Dragon Claw, but also Invulnerable Skin of Bronze, Stalwart Earth...
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  • IPP has a lot of that problem, especially when doing crossover stuff. Anyone who has the ability to turn off the nuclear forces holding your atoms together, or age you billions of years, or turn your flesh to stone just gets turned off by IPP with no additional effort....
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  • DrLoveMonkey
    replied to Why doesn’t Exalted have a metaplot?
    I think a game with a metaplot is certainly possible, but it might have to either involve player characters who can't affect the setting enough to really contradict anything in future books, or basically just be a series of published campaigns. Like the game is only Solars, and each year we release a new book detailing what every single group's Solars are up to next as a roller coaster rather than a sandbox. That way nobody can be like "wait, we saved Gem from exploding, how are we headed there in this book?" Because no previous book would imply that you ever saved Gem.

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