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  • Was there ever a single shared vampire culture? You have to go back a long ways to find it, though the Caine origin myth (or reality) seems prominent among vampires and predates Rome. If that origin is true, or even just very widespread, then maybe Semitic languages is where to look, since vampires have a Semitic origin.

    We could have "dam" which is Hebrew for blood. There is also "nephesh" which could mean soul or lifeforce. Other prominent Semitic languages, like Aramaic and Phoenician are similar I believe....
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  • As others have said, the Sabbat aren't inherently that united except by having the Camarilla as their enemy. They likely don't have the organizational structure to resist fracturing if they win. You also have an assortment of different factions and ideologies within the Sabbat, some of which includes some pretty crazy ideas which would cause mayhem if they tries to implement them unopposed. If the Camarilla were truly crushed by the Sabbat, the Sabbat would actually have to recreate something like the Camarilla. The more intelligent and rational Sabbat, including the powerful and influential elders,...
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  • I've always liked the Giovanni, I thought that they had an interesting concept that allowed for a diverse set of ideas to fit into a single thematic package. I like that they are based on a mortal family, one that in inbred, evil, degenerate, but also really rich and able to manipulate and influence others. I like the mix of mystical and political. But, they made way more sense as a bloodline than a Clan. They are based on a human family, they are tied to one geographic region, they originated relatively recently. That all screams bloodline to me. Retconning isn't really an option for something...
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  • Personally, I always thought that the Cappadocians should have been the Clan and the Giovanni a bloodline of that Clan. In a convoluted sort of way, that is what we have now. We have a general Death Clan and multiple bloodlines of it.

    I’m not 100% on how the whole process seemed to have been brought about, but I never really saw a reason for the Giovanni and Harbringers to be enemies.

    I kinda like the idea of Cappadocius himself still existing in some way and pulling all of the strings behind these events.
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  • Me too, I also remember seeing that. In fact, I went on to buy Werewolf, Mage, Wraith, and Changeling as soon as they came out in the following years....
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  • Mine was V:tM Second Edition, back when 2nd was still fairly new. I still remember flipping through the pages, reading about vampire origin and Clans. It was nearly 30 years ago, crazy to think about.
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  • I'll toss in my 2 cents, knowing that what I would prefer is highly unlikely to happen.

    Unfortunately, I think that both the Salubri and Ravnos were ill-conceived Clans. As has been stated many times for both Clans, the Salubri was just made to be nice guy vampires that the the Tremere could destroy (they were born to die as the song goes) and the Tremere would seem particularly nasty, and the Ravnos an entire Clan based on stereotypical Gyspies. Since thena lot of work has gone into reforming both Clans, but I honestly don't think it's worked, at least not in my opinion. All of the...
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  • It depends on what creature types you want to combine together and what kind of chronicle you want to run. Playing with a lot of combat will require a different sort of rebalancing than playing one with lots of social interactions. Mages can, but always, be overpowering because of the versatility of spheres, while werewolves can be too powerful in combat. Vampires having to sleep during the day can also be a major issue, assuming that other characters might want to do stuff during the day.

    One change I make with crossovers, at the minimum, is allow most creatures to soak aggravated...
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  • Sure, you can certainly go with a right wing conspiracy vibe for Hunter. So what? Why is that bad? There are plenty of WoD game that can have strong left wing themes, even Hunter if that is the direction people want to go with it. The WoD is full of conspiracies, political corruption, manipulation, and all sorts of social, religious, and political issues. That is one reason why a lot of people likes it, there are mature themes in it.

    If playing Hunter, or any other role playing game for that matter regardless of the ideological content, causes you to engage in some kind of negative...
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