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  • falco1029
    replied to A Thousand Years of Night
    It's not like one can't just ignore it and give them more if they feel it's not enough for their group to feel like 'elders', in either case.
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  • falco1029
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    I agree there. Actually I think switching 5 to 3 and replacing 5 with something more dramatic would work wonders.





    I think he meant the mechanics for it....
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  • I personally allow it; I tend to default to the ephemeral systems allowing integrity to be replaced with whatever equivalent. This does cause some oddities like Werewolves being better at abjuring when away from their ideal harmony, but given high is more 'human' for them, that still makes sense to me....
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  • falco1029
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    The Methuselahs section massively disappointed me. It goes into how they have all this time to develop things elders can barely touch upon, but then gives them no unique mechanics and nothing but the elder devotions in the book. So, basically... as presented they're absolutely no different from any other elder, at all.
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  • falco1029
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    So with Elder devotions, can you basically only take them if you've built your character as an elder per the book, or are similarly defined as one, or can anyone learn them but usually only elders manage it because of costs or prereqs or just their focus? I ask because everything else in the section is pretty clear about what's needed; blood sorcery needs BP6+ or 200 years in the covenant, for instance, the example coil needs 100 years in the territory, the merits say 'Elder' if they're elder only, etc.
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    Last edited by falco1029; 06-21-2017, 04:45 PM.

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  • I dunno the official stance but Ive always ruled that it does, since it's still a breaking point.
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  • One nice thing about Vampires is that you can scale them up to be much closer to the Mage and Demon level if you have them play characters with blood sorcery and then use sacraments and blasphemies. For good measure maybe lower typical discipline costs too, to 2/3 instead of 3/4
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