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  • Yes yes, we are all aware that in Exalted death is a powerboost and the only thing that baseline humanity gets is a ticket in the Exaltation lottery. ...
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  • There is the longevity mutation and another one called Immortal Flesh or some such in Dreams that makes a mortal unable to die but can't be taken by Exalts. There is an Artifact in Dreams that lets you take mutations by investing essence.

    Becoming a god or demon through endowment also makes you immortal.
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  • Alternatively, each one was making that future problem even harder to fix and they settled for the "devil they knew" how to deal with rather than the unknown.
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Maps and cake! (but mostly maps)
    This is amazing and I never realized how much I wanted it until I saw it....
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  • Wasn't there also the Verdigris Circlet from Dreams?
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  • Wasn't the creation of the Solars the first time the Sun set? That seems to imply at least some diminishment occurred....
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  • Although... assuming a god survives the exigence, could they get promoted to a better job and thereby regain the power that was lost? Would they always be "one exigent" weaker than a god in the same post who hadn't made one?
    (Obviously exigents, unlike Yedim, are not a standard unit)...
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  • This "capacity" is just renamed charmslots that are fixed in number and don't require committing personal essence. The name "charm slot" is probably fine either way, and the two salient points of the suggestion are "you can't buy more" and "you don't have to commit anything else" which can both be examined individually.


    Honestly, personal essence commitment was sort of pointless all the times I played Alchemicals because I never ran up against it. My stealth suit included that charm that prevented motes from adding to anima display and...
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  • Exthalion
    replied to how was the usurpation successful?
    While we are on the subject, how has the Lunar campaign of sabotage and subversion gone so poorly for so long? It is almost trivial for a lunar to turn into a bird and slip poison into something a DB is going to eat or drink. Even if all the upper echelons have food testers, stomach bottle bugs, sorcery, charms, or what not in proportion to their relative importance and likelihood of being target for assassination (which won't always originate with Lunars) there are a lot of other important people whose death would have a massive impact.

    It needn't even be poison: altering orders...
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Metropoli and patropoli
    Could you give me the references for the numbers of Kamak and Sova?

    Also, you missed Xefin in Nurad which is minor and above the floor so not part of the big four.



    A misreading on my part from the description of the Unity War. I checked the timeline again and that was a reference to the first 8 cities period where each nation had one....
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Metropoli and patropoli
    I went through Compass: Autochthonia again. There are exactly 50 confirmed cities (plus the 2 that are dead and one rumored gremlin city). Neither Sova nor Kamak have hard numbers given. There are also a few places where "major" cities are called out and one example of a minor city so I am not sure of the exact count.

    The description of Mog says he has destroyed "cities" which is at least another two.

    Claslat
    -Inner Claslat: 9 cities (Harmegis, Arat, Jandis)
    -Outer Claslat: 2 cities (Kur and Anket)

    Yugash
    4 cities (Ot,
    ...
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Metropoli and patropoli
    There are two destroyed cities explicitly talked about, Ixut and Perygra. No one is certain what destroyed Ixut, though popular theories are the Maker's immune system, the Adamants, or Mog. Perygra was destroyed by an immune reaction. Even the Viator didn't actually destroy any cities.

    So yeah, pretty difficult to take out. The number would be higher, but both Champions on the verge of becoming Colossi and Colossi on the verge of becoming Poli often delay and sometimes die....
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Metropoli and patropoli
    A number I see a lot is about 1000 Alchemicals with roughly 100 cities....
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  • I thought this edition was moving away from Exaltations as things and more to exaltations as events or miracles. I recall a discussion about the term "host" implying that a Celestial is somehow not an exalted, but just the meat sock the real Exalt(ation) is inside at that time....
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  • That was how arrays, the Alchemical version of combos, worked in 2E. You had to install them all together but you got a discount on installation costs. If you wanted to use those charms out of that array you would need to buy them again....
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  • The idea that creating alchemicals drains Autochthon or that humans and alchemicals are what is killing him and gremlins are his immune system?...
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  • Wasn't that the joke since 1E?...
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  • Exthalion
    replied to Exalted: Seats of Power
    Looks interesting will give it a more complete read-through later.

    Edit: Interesting, but could use some editing work. Ritual activation seems to have lost some words and the necromantic feedback powers list the sorcery powers as prerequisites....
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    Last edited by Exthalion; 09-02-2017, 04:54 PM.

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  • It might just be taking too long. Autochthon might have thought Alchemicals would be jumping at the chance to turn into cities and the fact that they aren't means he is diminishing faster than the new cities are counteracting the loss.
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  • There was an idea floating around the forum back in the 2E days that Alchemicals, specifically cities, are a form of prosthetic for Autochthon. Back then it was about curing his illness with exalted organs, backed up by the fact that every listed city supplements or enhances some anatomical process in the Maker.

    The Infernal preview, which has been somewhat disavowed, suggested that the Yozi were grafting the Infernals into their soul hierarchies as a way to increase their own power.

    Combining the two, Autochthon may be doing this exact thing. While creating Alchemicals...
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