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  • Baaldam
    replied to How, exactly, do I write a Scion campaign?
    Do you not mean the Odyssey or the Argonauts? Illiad is far more about heroes & demigods at war than sea travels...

    Also possibly of relevance.



    Pardon the ignorance - have no experience with Storypath's version of Scion, only the previous one - but what is each Tier/stage of the book about?



    If you can connect to some myth - or crazy hijinks of a scion abusing purviews like Chaos, Animal or whatever - it fits, that simple.

    How about classic sirens that can change between human and bird-legged women through...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Daywalker?
    Quite probably one of the references of the idea, in fact....
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  • Atlas shrugs and no one but objectivists gives a damn because the world goes on well enough without them....
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  • No problem. Well, good list there. It also makes good fodder for people not to be too quick extrapolating a NPC's sire or childe generation from what is in the sheet.

    Not to mention the whole "is Mithras a childe of the Ventrue ante or a diablerist brazenly proclaiming a false pedigree among kindred, just like he brazenly proclaims godhood - sun godhood to boot - amonng a number of mortals?" controversy, that i utterly love since it reared its head in Transylvanian Chronicles with Maltheas. ...
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  • Well, that would actually be more consistent with the plotline of Lair of the Hidden, the Council of Twelve and the weird magics going on in that place....
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  • Well, not what i was looking for - i was in it just to answer a "how could a sire be two generations away of its own childe" question, so to speak.
    But at least now i know some novels' stuff i was not aware of. ...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to [V5] Tips to create NPCs ?
    One can also do a little bit of both - sometimes i look at a city's history, sometimes at a certain position one might expect to see in your typical domain - who is the prince, who are primogen (which wants to be prince instead, which prefer to be powers behind the throne or just do it out of some twisted sense of duty to clan, brood or whatever), who are the elders (who want to be primogen or prince, who's confortable where they are, who doesn't care and is an elder simply because it's too old and powerful to be carelessly trod upon), who are ancillae & neonates and wwho do they relate to...
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  • Well, the wiki for some reason says Edward Bainbridge is her sire, even though he's given as 7th gen while she is described as 9th,
    something Undead Rabbit brought up and i was (kind of) answering to. Though as things turned out, it reinforces wonderfully how unreliable the WW Wiki is, i guess......
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  • Oh, that is indeed some pretty loaded localization. Well, what can i say, i like to start with more (apparently) subdued/low-key stuff to then get into the seriously nutty plotting....
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  • Remember how Valerius is 7th, but his childe Lady Anne is 6th in contemporary times? Diablerie can be a funny thing in that it can change the effective generation of NPCs and mess extrapolation of one's lineage based on stats.


    It could happen, depending on how young or not as a kindred is Emma when both are presented, for her to be embraced and him a few months or years later to secretly diablerize some rival. Damn, i have seen that kind of thing at play....

    Oh, 1887-1888 quite the short unlifespan, makes it far more probable there was some mess with the write-ups....
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  • Ever tried to use it all in a game about a group of kindred trying to contain or at least direct that kind of shenanigans?
    Now i'm imagining a group of neonates dealing with messes for an archon mentor, that then goes out of his way blackmail or execute the hell out of a lot of people whose shenanigans the PCs came across in their job.

    Even worse, a coterie of neonates that pass themselves as nightime clerks of a convenience store in a bad neighborhood. And yet place never gets robbed.
    Actually, it suffers lots of attempts, never reported. The kids call it "home delivery".......
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  • Personally i feel, as my commentary about Romania suggests i guess, the better way to treat anything in the Clanbooks or World of Darkness books might be as rumor and hearsay to be used, twisted or ignored according to your own research and interests. There's a reason my version of Russia (and some central & eastern european countries) throws a lot of canon through the window.

    But seriously, we have wiki nowadays, mine the hell of it for ideas and to fact-check and correct (or tweak if you want some bit of fluff to be canon, no matter how nonsense it might end up being - like...
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  • Two random asides that crossed my mind....

    - While i spoke "those that have not survived the Anarch Revolt are still members" jokingly, the idea of the ghost/spectres of one or more Tzimisce elders as acting members of the League, guiding (and occasionally possessing) their childer, granchilder or other descendants with the other members none the wiser (it's just custom dominate) or not caring (better the old devil i know - and maybe one night we can learn that trick too, just in case) could work and would add some extra weirdness to the group.

    - It crossed...
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  • It happens.

    .....

    Ah, whatever, let me raant a bit - here goes the bits from the wiki on the Oradea League that got my attention, and not exactly in a good way:

    - Lots of talk about Russia, even thought the league is named for a city in Romania. Would expect the city or country's to figure a little more proeminently in their background, at least.

    - It is said "The League was – and still is – based on a set of absolute rules, designed exclusively to protect the unlives of the founders." - The idea of Founders, with a power of decision-making...
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  • It was a very engrossing game, at least before schedule limitations and other grownup life problems got in the way as they are wont to.

    Nope. Have a number of notes, but never got as far as trying to make a blog or pdf out of it. The fact the rules part are wholy 1e material probably contributed a little to my procrastination too....
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  • Ah, sorry, i was speaking of the Omen War itself and a bunch of DA fluff related to it.

    On the League itself, here's some wiki stuff from it, taken mostly from the Revised Clanbook you might look into but will be sincere and admit some of the facts don't seem to add up together too well to me. So either checking the Clanbook - or ignoring/reworking some of that stuff, if it is as wonky as the wiki makes it look....
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  • I'm pretty sure the DA:V has much more on the subject, as the first time i remember ever coming across the term was while reading one of its books. I think there were also references to Malkavian and/or Salubri seers early on, but that might or not be memory playing tricks on me....
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  • Considering that Hedeon himself has at least 6 childer, one of them a prince, i suspect those numbers might be a little skewed....




    I think it might have been formed in reaction to either the Tremere inception or the founding of Ceoris. If you have Dark Ages books, look out for Omen War....
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  • Well, it's complicated - the Tal'Mahe'Ra's Ttzimisce and their soul-eater mythology has been a point of contention from the get-go - even those few that got the Sabbat's ST Handbook and Necroscope references they were playing with were not exactly amused at the deprotagonizing implementation, so it has been something of zig-zagging between acting like that was never written, recognizing it was but downplaying or asserting as all wrong and a few people thinking that retooling and providing resources to let each ST tinker with decide how much is true or not for their own games, what has been the...
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  • First person viewpoint - not like Konrad the Sofa ever gets to express his own words or thoughts - certainly helps too.
    But yeah, "doc newlywed" makes a pretty great delivery of the creepiness potential of a blood bond/dominate combo....
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