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  • I remember a discussion about repurposing the Blood Bond adventure, with the duo of infiltrators (Rigaud & Wade) spurring "alternate versions" of the plot, involving Lawrence Ballard x Horatio Ballard, agent Gregory Stephens & Jacob Schumpeter's daughter x Juggler & Schumpeter, to create a general climate of paranoia & distrust around the use and abuse of the Bond, to them slip rumors about Maldavis' origin (it was pre-2nd ed Chicago), along with some about a ritual to shatter the bond, for maximum paranoia....

    And sidetrack everybody of their real target...
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  • Reading a bit on NPCs here and there in the wiki i got across something funny.

    Carter Vanderweyden is supposedly a childe of Julius Abrogard embraced in the early 50's.

    But the backstory of archon Dawn Nadaka, while i admit, not outright stating so, seems to strongly imply he was killed by a Tremere before the end of WWII or not long after.

    As i said, Abrogard's time of death is not outright stated, so there's wiggle room (maybe Julius got sidetracked for a half decade or something).
    But in context of Carter having black veins he excuses as "New...
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  • Meh, just some Tzim "doing the Mithras" as an avatar or other of this guy....



    Alexia Theusa has been mentioned as the childe of an antediluvian too, make of that what you will. ...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Caine is probably dead!
    Honestly, i'm not even in the "Cain(e) actually exists" camp and have half a dozen alternate origins for the kindred in my chronicles anyway...

    That said, i have had loads of fun by mashing Bloodlines' taxi driver & the Kapaneus references in Gehenna with the character from the Berlin by Night adventure. The Camarilla Inner's Circle is very divided between keeping censoring things about him or just outright stating he's an impostor (with no actual evidence either way) and throwing in the Red List, consequences be damned.
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  • The Stairway to Heaven they got out of this was of a most underwhelming sort, for sure....




    Indeed. This comes to mind in fact.

    Kind of tempted to make an "East x West" game just for the Led playlist now......
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  • The nature of the Strix has a strong probability of being bullshit, the contemporary ones being wholly constructs of blood rituals, survivor guilt & paranoid dementia on the part of a few Julii remnants hiding among the Ventrue and little to no actual relation to the original strix that brought the Camarilla's fall....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Telyavel - a Tzimisce?
    Remember Mithras, the cavalcade of Garou and Monty Coven? Well, something similar, except involving a band of teutonic knights with lots of True Faith, happened to him before Lugoj pounced in.



    I'm not saying he's weak or anything, it's just a matter of scale overall - as i said, actual Ventrue methuselah could turn the minds of any one kindred court to mulch if anyone thought themselves capable of backing it against a wall. His behaviour, dealings and limitations speak of Alexander being a methuselah in name only, at least to me. But then i feel the same about many of...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to The Twist
    I wouldn't say monstrous so much as inhuman/transhuman, as a supernatural grace/beauty akin to the fairest might be in synch with Daeva for example and Mekhet or Ventrue might go in other more peculiar directions too.

    Goddamn, and it just crossed my mind that the Mnemovores from Wicked Dead could be some twisted fruit of Dominate 3 abuse/misuse gone awry. That's, interesting i guess......
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Making a setting without Yu-shan
    Honestly, my impression is the OP's idea of a scenario requires far less setting change than it think it does. On one side the lack of Yu-shan would have zero relevance to the nature of elementals. On another, animalistic elementals are, if not the norm per se, quite common and close to it, specially in the more basic Ess 1-3 tier. In fact it might be more a matter of writer focus on antagonists that may also interact socially more than anything.

    The portrayal of gods as you describe fits right in with terrestrial gods per se and a number of rogue deities peppered here and there in...
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  • Livonia i think, though i must admit i know him more from bits & pieces than reading the novels themselves.

    Incidentally, i must admit to having real problems seeing their antagonist in the novel, the Ventrue Alexander, as a honest-to-god methuselah.

    His backstory and temperament reek of petty, upitty & vain elder too much in my eyes to swallow that (not to mention an actual Ventrue methuselah might turn the minds of a whole kindred court into mulch instead of accepting defeat). Tend to imagine him as 5th-6th gen and nearing the 1000 years of active existence...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Cainites like Devil-Tiger?
    Redemption sounds like a remake/retcon of the Nocturnal Redemption path from Montreal by Night than "vanilla" Road of Heaven, i guess, a perspective more in tune with the Cainite Heresy possibly. Heaven itself might be seen as closer to the Resplendent Crane dharma, possibly.

    (Incidentally, some wordcount spent on the Cainite Heresy, gnosticism and how it might tie up with the paths of Redemption, Cathari and the Sabbat as a whole could be an interesting read)

    Also, Song of Shadow is a dharma that sounds more in tune with the Oblivion discipline than anything...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Cainites like Devil-Tiger?
    Pardon the ignorance, but the Path of Redemption is kind of a modern version of DAV's Road of Heaven introduced in Chaining the Beast or am i mistaken on that? Got that impression from a quick read on the wiki....
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  • I don't know, while there are no tall mountains & such the Curonian sounds interesting to me and there are also a number of lakes & wetlands too, no? Any marshes or swamps maybe? i remember reading something about peat bog fires...

    But yeah, based on my quick search of th wiki, the land is mostly wide plains smoothed over by millenia of glaciations - what can offer fun ideas in a "high road to the lords of winter/Frozen meets Whitewalkers" sort of imagery too, i guess.

    Also, folkloric underpinings could make sense for a Kraina if said legendry touches...
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  • A branch of the Vicissitude-hating Dracul aka Old Clan Tzimisce perhaps?



    Speaking of the Telyavelic, anyone ever considered tinkering with other cells of Tremere gone pagan/native/rogue across the Dark medieval world? Just curious.




    While in my own games a lot of that goes into the Sabbat ritae, could be fun indeed to have some "grassroots/hedge blood magicians" peppered here and there among the anarchs.

    In fact it just crossed my mind that Brunhild & Waëlkyrige vague ties with scandinavian anarchs could be...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Telyavel - a Tzimisce?
    Why do you think a Tzimisce methuselah could not have the juice to empower Qarakh against a Ventrue methuselah? Seems feasible to me, specially if the 4th gen ain't really that old nor a combat monster (for his tier, younger kindred would definitely disagree), as has been my overall impression of Alexander...

    That said, i'm personally much more in favor of Telyav being a spirit of the land, much like Kupala and others, than a vampire....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    Neither. Obtenebration in my games is a variant branch of Obfuscate instead, with "solid shadow/darkness hentacles" and powers in that more gonzo vein being occult rites of my version of the Angelis Ater. Same goes for Chimerstry too, in fact. Have been doing that discipline streamlining long before V5, long before V3 in fact (damn, feeling old now).

    On the plus side, "Obtenebration rituals & combos" make great excuses to relocate level 6+ powers down into the 1-5 range.
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  • This guy. That i have something of a long-standing love-hate relationship with because, on one side, the writers try to sell us the idea he and Jalan-Aajav are one and the same, even though they have almost nothing in common - whoever wrote they have similar temperaments either didn't read Children of Inquisition or was on drugs at the time, Qarakh has more in common with Worf than the Seraph - except for being embraced as Gangrel and serving in the armies of Gengis Khan (and considering how huge those armies were, for multiple individuals to have been embraced during his campaigns, that lasted...
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  • Good to be of help, anyway sorry for the rant, it's just that "Byzar as Mahatma" is one of those "writer mashing up unrelated - and sometimes outright clashing - NPCs into some bland, vague snowflake" little things that really bug me, much like the Qarakh/Jalan-Aajav/Karsh fusion before it in 3rd ed...

    The Capuchin is a funny case, in that it is just a title/label and nothing stops the ST of putting whoever or whatever it wants behind it instead of Lazarus, what the Guide to the Tal'Mahe'Ra very much toys with by having Lazarus, Japheth and Byzar taking...
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  • A Guide to the Tal'Mahe'Ra cites it, mashed up with another infernalist nest, in page 46, check it out.
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  • Mahatma is the Inconnu Monitor of Istambul, an NPC quoted a number of times in clan/bloodline descriptions of the early books, and finally got a full write-up in 3rd ed, on Children of Night - and because it was a methuselah in the city once called Constantinople, even before the Triad, people started to mass conflate it with Byzar to a surreal degree, even thought any attentive reading of the basics on each of them should show that makes little to no sense whatsoever.


    The writers themselves contribute to this in V20, might be said:



    At least a good...
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