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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Need is too strong a word i would say, there are differences - sometimes quite considerable, might be said in some cases - when it comes to agendas, worldview and connection to spirit worlds &/or humanity. On my experience things between Fera can follow the basic "D&D/shadowrunner party with fursuits against the Machine" assumption, or go downhill on people killing themselves over ridiculous minor differences/disagreements faster than a WH40K scenario, it can be quite relative.

    But my point is that the Hengeyokai in Japan and their equivalents in other parts of southeast...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Personally, i have always prefered the term kindred over cainite, specially to distance things from the idea that the Noddist/Caine mythos is the one true origin of vampires and an objective fact instead of the prevalent legend among a part of them. The Drowned Legacies, (return of cyclical Gehenna) and some other stuff shaking up the mold seem to be steps back in a dynamic direction more to my liking.

    The many variants of Fera have all tales of origin, culture, roles & twists of their own and yet still follow the a basic framework established with the Garou in WtA, something...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Not going to be able to add anything useful on that particular subject anytime soon, but that's life i guess. ...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Ah, V5 mechanics - i know utterly nothing about them! ...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Well, what do you mean with the "personal conviction part of the character" bit? Not quite clear to me.



    Oh, i remember them very much and the fact i had already been using them for about 5 years when Hot Mess of the East came to the stores means i was very much not amused with that particular new direction of the setting and so kept using Gaki/Jiangshi, the Children of Susano-o (Bushi), Obakeneko (the life/sex-draining shapechanging cats from 1st ed WoD) and Kumori (Ananasi) with nary a care.

    Later on i would experiment a bit with mixing and matching...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Last i checked the CofD's mummies - i think you mean the ones from Mummy: the Curse - are not egyptian at all, but from a lost (possibly on an "edited out of reality" level) civilization that is about as egyptian as Hyborian Age's Stygia - and might have been a contemporary/rival of MtAw's Atlantis. In fact if memory tricks me not, the empire was called Irem, a name that actually references a legend from Arabian Peninsula's Empty Quarter....
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  • Actually, based on that tale about Ur-Shulgi as embraced and thrown in the Organ Pit he definitely cannot be the Unamed, or any of the 3 for that matter, because the Baali existed and were already at war with the kindred of the Second City and Haqim embraced him to serve as "bait messiah" to reunite them under one banner and make for one visible target to destroy at once.

    Technically speaking, that would make him a Shaitan, one of the many "imposter founders" throughout the millenia of Baali history, according to their Dark Ages clanbook.

    As an aside,...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Baali Apostasy questions
    In my own games i took a funky turn with it by making the masters of the Baali the Neverborn, what makes a hefty glue to the whole "mess with the darkness within and throw balefire" and add a twist at the same time. It does help somewhat too that in my version the Neverborn are the ghosts of dead Antediluvians and being Baali actually a peculiar iteration of the same mysterious condition that generates Caitiff (that are a little different from RaW in my table in certain peculiar ways)....
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  • ‚ÄčOut of curiosity, what is the source of Volgirre as a childe of Helena?...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Who will replace Hardestadt?
    Truth be told Hardestadt as architect of the Camarilla is kind of a retcon from Last Supper onwards, as Raphael De Corazon had that role before, but someone decided some Ventrue had to play boss, so it goes and the rest is history/metaplot......
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  • Where does Thaumaturgy or Obtenebration among others draw their power from? External powers or twisted mysteries of the blood? What should make it different for the Baali?

    Earthbound, the Wyrm, Oblivion, Umbrood, the 'Outer Lords' of the K'llasshaa, they are not the starting point of the discipline but the finishing line/target.
    Just that.
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  • Well, you didn't mention either of these two, so i brought them up. No others books that i know of....
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  • I never read Paris by Night, but something i agree on is utterly ignoring some (most) of the things Transylvania Chronicles III does with the French Revolution.
    And coincidentally, i also play him as a blatant self-embelisher/liar about his personal history - one particular bit being that he's the childe of Helene la Juste, not Helena, a serial diablerist (originally 7th gen, not 5th) and prone to using some of the memories of his past victims to paint himself as older than he actually is - the main factor behind many kindred believing he's from the 1200s, when the historical Villon is actually...
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  • Her relation with Helena and the way it is described was always a strong hint for me that her being Callisti & Callisto is just rumour/wild mass guessing (what, De Corazon never checked...) and she's more probably another of Helena's childer brought along with her in the conquest and setting up of domains in the Americas, like Eletria, Melinda Galbraith and Maria.

    Not that being a 5th gen toreador prince and master art thief, in her spare time as a hobby is exactly small potatoes. In fact, in my own games i did a twist of sorts by making Alexis/Danya, the Ravnos master art thief...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Diablerie, how does it work?
    Pretty sure it messes with them too, unless somebody changed the rules due to missing the point amaranth empowers the Beast first & last...



    Yeah, those tables he cut & pasted show their period of the game a little too well, i guess. If i got a dime for every boy or girl that came up with some upgraded "high gain/high risk" version of the diablerie rules in the early to mid-90s....

    The current rules, loose as they may seem, are the product of an evolution process already. Back in 1st or early 2nd edition VtM, that one dot for generation...
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  • Well, to be fair, mining for good stuff to read and hooks to adapt and use in our own tables is a major incentive behind our purchase of the books, no denying that.


    On the matter of using them, well, they are wildcards at present, the backgrounds of some like the Bonsam, Ramanga or Guruhi have seeds that could be interpreted either way - are they bloodlines, clans created by apocryphal antediluvians (or the same antediluvians under different guises) or beings that originated from divine/diabolic curses of their own much like Caine? Well, completely up to you in your game....
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  • Yes, the answer is very much "whatever works for one's game", mix-&-match canon & homebrew according to taste.

    OP, do you have any plans for a chronicle set in some part of Africa, Latin America (or Oceania) in particular? Or maybe fodder for some twisted sort of character backstory? What exactly are you looking out for, seeking what kind of setting lore to tinker with?...
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  • Must admit that while vaguely curious about Kindred of the Ebony Kingdom i never seriously delved into it, i'm aware it has some bloodlines/clans around and some morality/virtue system between the usual one and KotE's types of Chi (i think, could be wrong)

    Overall i would say that its ultimate problem is being an "Africa book", aka taking the self-sabotaging initiative of trying to present a cohesive image of a whole continent - or at least a (sub-saharan) part of it - in one book. It's far from the only game to get caught in that kind of pitfall, might be said.
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  • Baaldam
    replied to So, who is Aludian Thex?
    Considering it is a pseudonym, it doesn't have to be the same person in all instances but your guesses are as good as mine if not better.
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  • Baaldam
    replied to So, what is Tlaloc?
    Yes, the matter of Tlaloc in aztec myth and religion is a quite colorful one.

    If the entity cited in Mexico By Night has any actual relation to the deity(ies), "adopted" the name from certain kindred occultist and what exactly is it capable of or not, well i guess it's up to interpretation on the bits given in the book.

    It could be some great, numinous entity or "just" some kindred that spends far too much of its time in non-corporeal form due to Protean, Vicissitude, Obtenebration, or for those with a flair for the dramatic, a combo of either of the...
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