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  • Sounds promising, though it beggars the question of how will the PCs do to avoid having a fate similar to this poor noddist, specially if his madness-induced suicide was no coincidence.

    I knew that mention about the "ophidian/typhonian" aspects of Serpentis relating to some methuselah seeking to become one with Apophis was kind of suspicious... :P
    On a little aside and where would the Baali - or at least Nergal's quest/ritual to become one with a Decani stand in the equation (supposing it even fits, as i have no idea if V20 ever references clanbook Baali)? Interesting...
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  • The whole thing about Ashur as a state of being and the multiple antes - and methuselahs - who seek or actually found it seems pretty entertaining, but what function do they, their actions and agendas actually serve to your chronicle?
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  • Some things that crossed my mind while munching some thoughts and re-reading some parts of the thread:

    - Is there anything from Graceful Wicked Masks, the errata on Fair Folk or material from any previous editions, concepts, tricks or whatever, that you have an interest on or remember fondly? Because otherwise, if all you got from those books was headaches and confusion, make your own take from scratch with the bits and pieces from 3e Core fluff or mechanics that suit you. If your players haven't dealt with the fae in past games, it's not like they have any expectations about them...
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  • Overall, not much of a deal in any game i have played or STed. Kindred vitae can heal even the most grievous of wounds or mutilations in general, meaning the only situations (usually) where a vampire will have such a disability would be either a temporary loss while recovering from an aggravated wound or the case of a hasty (if not downright malicious) embrace. And well, what is there to stop a kindred from seeking out some ritual or other occult alternative to patch over even that?

    For a gory homebrew example, one of my first VtM chars was an one-eyed occultist child that dealt with...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Metaplot and rigidity
    Oh gods, Goratrix-on-a-stick, do i remember that terrible, terrible scene.... That was silly beyond words on oh so many levels, such a terribly bad sequence our ST simply decided "that guy" wasn't Goratrix but a fleshcrafted and brainwashed dupe, part of some weird gambit/test on the part of Vykos with the PCs and the Tremere. In the end we decided going to the Tremere with the idiot was not worth the risk of becoming Gargoyle chow and eventually found Ceoris location - and a more of effective way of making a deal with the Tremere about the wards - in our own way.

    As an...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Metaplot and rigidity
    Well, i would say the first thing to do is - worry about burning that bridge when it's time to burn a bridge.

    Yes, in the intervening centuries between their embrace sometime close to '1197, '1220 or '1234 (depending on what edition of DA you star with) and the Convention of Thorns the PCs could theoretically become as influential, notorious or respected among their own as Corazon, Mistress Fanchon, Harderstadt & co, if not more so.

    They could also lose eveything they built thanks to the intrigues of rivals, the usurpation of treacherous childer, a marauding horde...
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  • While i can see what you are getting at, it's somewhat debatable if the Camarilla would need to actively move against the Ashen Cults - remember, the Inquisition was around and its actions were possibly as much (if not more so) of a motivator in the clan (sometimes cult) leaders putting their petty differences & rivalries aside as the Anarch Revolt. And, on your own words, their "particularly cult-like aspect complete with centers of power and sacred sites" would make the those groups very notable and favored targets for a great number of witch-hunters, if not their majority, by...
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  • Baaldam
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    True, true, but even that is not much of a problem when it comes to illegal or downright criminal activities on the art of some of the groups. Pentex and the Technocracy tended to cover most megacorp shenanigans so well it could be hilarious.

    Not to mention rare is the time one calls into shadowrunners to deal with strictly over the board business... anyway, thanks for bringing it up....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Hong Kong by Night
    Considering overall tone of WoD, porting over factions, organizations and corps from Shadowrun as coteries, packs or cabals - when not quite mundane but informed groups - should be all too easy at some spots....
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  • Baaldam
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    Well, it is the most iconic image/association to the city in international media and pop culture, as it has been for nearly 40 years now, so no shock in the usual treatment. Much like the citys portrayal in both World of Darkness editions and its own book, with their looming shadow of the transfer to the chinese government (and accomanying yellow terror undertones) reflect the time of their writing. That said, you made me curious about the Shadowrun book, got to look out for it someday....
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  • A fleshed-out style of combat and tactics to go along with it should serve much better towards that - supposing one even needs that kind of brute power for a break-out antagonist of sorts - than numbers. Tinker with the lower level powers, try combinations or riffs on them first before setting a power level in stone. Just a few area effect or minion-pilling charms in the Es 2-3 tier could be enough to cover that need.



    Oh, i got that part, what i meant is that - if memory tricks me not, as i don't have 3e with me right now - the Cataphract QC is socially skilled aplenty...
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  • As an aside, why Essence 5? What kind of power you have in mind that calls for it, one that matches the princes and princesses of the Demon Realm or god-kings of nations? For the sake of comparison (if going a little fast-n-loose with the rules), an Essence 3 Fae of enough occult understanding could be a master of Sapphire Circle Sorcery with all that entails, among other things.
    Hence my questioning of the necessity of the combination in itself. Mixing two level 2s running in quite different vectors not exactly a level 4 makes, so to speak.

    One might say it sort of feels like...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Hong Kong by Night
    Not much of a fan of Hong Kong By Night either, though its a work of art when compared to the Tokyo book....

    That said mixing and matching with fluff from a World of Darkness (both editions if possible) and Caerns: Places of Power (that also discusses HK from a garou angle) should be of much help in making the city more expansive and nuanced. Nowadays a little bit of research through the wiki and other sources could be good too, specially in letting you as ST have a better image of the city per se....
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  • Well, personally i would ask myself first how do "the best of both the Lorelei and Cataphract" mesh concept-wise into this particular Fae Noble - one does not have to be "the best at everything" to be noteworthy. In fact finding a colorful niche for it can be most helpful in directing the mind when picking or adapting stuff for ideas.

    Is the noble obsessed with seduction AND combat? How so? What is it gender (supposing it doesnt flip between them like certain lunars or spirits)? Is it some lady of fiery ice that will accept only one capable of battling her as an...
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