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  • Good point, i did consider them too, though their weakness goes a little farther in implications to say the least....
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  • Those are viable, but i spoke of clan/bloodline weaknesses for a reason - the examples you gave require a lot of the individual baggage to fit in such a situation. I'm looking for something that might apply in more of a group level so to speak and serve as a clue to the attentive that there's more than meets the eye to a certain number of kindred in a city....
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  • Clans or bloodlines that feed from the dead

    Hello people. Looking for info on kindred lineages for whom due to particular weaknesses taking blood from the just dead or blood bags might be less troublesome than feeding from the living.
    The Giovanni and Lamiae come immediately come to mind, Salubri might count too, depend on one's attitude toward dealing with variants of their weakness, but wanted to be sure if there might be others and your thoughts on the subject.

    It's kind of relevant to some stuff i'm working on for a little Milwaukee rewrite of mine.
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Bloodline to Clan
    So many ways for the alchemy of the blood to go pear-shaped within a human being's inanimate carcass. As an aside, Ayanda's story and the rumors about her got me thinking of a OD "Gangrel" Kogaion i once played that was quite peculiar in a number of ways unrelated to the Ordo's great work. Much like his brood that didn't limit itself to any one covenant in fact....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Bloodline to Clan
    Curiously, looking for Omoyo on Google led me to this.
    Coincidence I Think Not.


    Now, a little less tongue-in-check and more on topic, one of the rumors on Ayanda got me thinking if her own creation was wholly as planned, if her bane wasn't as much happenstance as much as her planned childer turning Mekhet, but revenants perhaps turning more spectral. Botched banes for botched embraces?

    Could a secret of breaking from a strain of vampirism into another be hidden in something so simple?...
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  • This works nicely for a start, while also leaving room open for the STs and other people involved with running the LARP to flesh out the game's city setting and chronology in whichever way most appeal to the parts involved, be it ignoring some parts of metaplot while bringing in others or throwing your own weird extras (Caine from Bloodlines is the "Caine" from Berlin by Night, still undead and kicking and an unofficial Anathema; part of the city's Nosferatu are actually cadaverous Cappadocian Infitiores, or any other crazy curveball of one's preference) into the mix....
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  • Well, it would take considerably more than half a dozen vampires to make anything feasbile - you'd need several reasonably large herds and even larger group of unwitting prey, for starters.

    Unless everybody is in the know because it's some crazy project like "Carthage IN SPACE" or somesuch from either Brujah idealists, anarchs or a mix of both. ...
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  • Good to know, since i'm also one prone to treating Gutter Magic as its own peculiar thing of somewhat unclear, to say the least, origins.

    And about the pharaoh's origins and connections, the crapstorm possibilities are indeed endless. In a Requiem game i once crossed the Melissidae curse with Abyssal Spiders - ok, technically bees in their case - to most entertainingly eerie synergic results and hooks for the chronicle....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Bloodline to Clan
    Oh yeah, indeed. A condition that could make also a kind of bridge with the Jianshi too, i guess. Time to hit the book again for some creative fodder....
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  • Little aside, speaking of Anpu makes me think of the hilariously incorrect and pulpy version of Anubis as a patron of the Scorpion King in Return of the Mummy and adapting elements of the series of films for a quite apocryphal MtC game where old jackal head is not exactly quite satisfied with the esoteric shenanigans of the Shai'antu that led to the loss of his throne to Azar & his brand new wife and the Scorpion King as an Arisen-esque servitor of his own and one of the factors in the fall of Irem.

    Imhotep might be an arisen who found apotheosis, only to them attempt to recover...
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  • Was mostly messing around with both Lost Light's musings on the lore of the two cults and some off-the-wall takes on the books, like the possibility of Witches as described in Witch-Finders perhaps being something more than "broad strokes awakened" (hence my linking of the False Awakening for example), in much the same way that Night Stalkers would bring to foreground some vampiric things that were definitely not the kindred clans we know (while also missing hard at least one).


    For example, the tale of Empty Pharaoh's soulless armies of the living and the dead, created...
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  • Little aside, what are the Witches, are they a skewed interpretation of the Awakened, something similar but yet different, a whole different power or a jumbled conflation of many different things through the distorted lens of ill-informed Vigil observation?
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Bloodline to Clan
    Kind of forgot to ask back then, who are those subtype you mean?...
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  • Because level 5 is possession, possession leads to body-hopping - and what do body-hopping vampires reminds us of?


    edit: It's even worse if a clan has Dominate and Animalism - or at least some old, now mostly lost variant powers that involved infusing beasts with one's consciousness. ...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to How convenient should elementals be?
    Themes go a long way towards that as, while the elements have a number of symbolic associations that give hearthstones and elementals breadth, there will be a number of things that are not within the five elements purview - and consequently feats beyond the elementals capacity to do or replicate.

    And even when there is some common ground that might be covered by either, one might expect demons and elementals to cover them differently - where a demon summoner calls a blood ape, an elementalist trying to craft a similar bodyguard/attack grunt might end up shaping a fire lion, stone...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Green Bay in the WoD?
    In my own Milwaukee Chronicle, the childer of Parovich along with some Caitiffs (and Milo) formed an anarch gang called the Orlocks, with some stealth council support from Edward & Jason, who are both quite distrusting of Parovich, and Lucina, who's experimenting with them and a few other groups as a way to dilute the numbers and power of the Night Children (ditched the Blood Brothers name to avoid confusion) and the Union....
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Gaki Revision for V20 and V5
    ​Per canon, so it seems, but i guess the matter of the topic is very much that the OP is considering ways to use some form or variant of them to add homebrewed color to its game, no?...
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  • Not to mention there's a bunch of things about that paragraph that don't add up very well. For starters because "smuggling people for intelligence-gathering/espionage" seems like a sort of international intrigue more in synch with Quincunx retribution jingoism than what i remember seeing on the japanese Ujis in the books themselves. Also, the HK expatriates mixing up with the japanese, when they could far more easily blend into the much larger mortal population of English, Scottish, Irish and chinese origins, well, that sounds a tad counter-intuitive to me.



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  • Baaldam
    Baaldam posted a Visitor Message for shkspr1048
    Looks like the Exalted forum is having issues again, so here goes my reply to your topic - http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...35#post1471635
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Exigent Exalted and Gods of Nothing
    I guess it depends on the kind of deity it was. If he was a terrestrial one, its portfolio would be a place or landmark, something with material heft and whose concept of would sort of exist even if the specific example a deity was steward of is gone. So even though, let's say, Omlaut of Diorite Spires, is gone from Creation along with the Mount Murang it was​ carved upon, cities, carved from the body of mountains or not, are still a known quantity in Creation and consequently the deity's charms would still have meaning and identity to drawn, though much diminished by its divine steward's loss....
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