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  • Baaldam
    replied to Vampires and Implants?
    Is acne - or miopia - physical damage to be healed? that is what gets my attention, it's going from recovery/healing on straight cosmetic alteration, so to speak.



    Not mentioned, so it's up for grabs in individual games, i guess....
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  • Well, i'll be honest and admit i don't even count metaplot-waiving as houseruling - setting & lore are supposed to be a storyteller fiat field, so book stances only matter when one lets them. If something is not referenced in games, it's not an event or option, that simple.

    If i want to add some plotline that runs counter to the books, like, let's say...

    - The Book of Nod and Caine myth are fabrication of the Cappadocians - that were not even a real clan but a splinter branch of the Salubri - as part of a propaganda/proselityzing campaign in late roman times to both...
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  • Don't have True Faith as a stat per se, in my games, one simply uses Humaanity instead - after spending willpower, that is. Makes it more effective for players and yet restricted as a resource at the same time, as one's literal reserves of will dry out, every confrontation a tense moment in a ticking clock.

    Humanity is Conscience or Self-Control (pick one); Willpower is the sum of Courage + one other virtue. It changes considerably the tone of the game when neonates start with Willpower to spare (5-9 even without freebies) and at the same time can feel wightdom breathing down their...
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  • Oh yeah, i knew that was familiar. thanks....
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  • Actually, it might be possible the Brujah Critias was not intended to be Plato's uncle and the tyrant (that in fact would be in his 30s at the time of his embrace, that based on the fluff could not be more than a few years after the plague in Athens that took Pericles among many other natives) but the grandfather of the same and possibly one of the two narrators in one of Plato's dialogues.

    A tale about a mighty civilization ruled by the lines of 10 semi-divine rulers, its rise, corruption, fall and damnation/destruction by the gods. Curious, no?



    Seems...
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  • Baaldam
    replied to Vampires and Implants?
    To be precise, that last part was refering to adjusting acne & bad sight problems, what for me is crazy because it has nothing to do with physical damage of any kind, unlike Maureen's wheelchair-bound condition, that directly relates to a botched attempt at suicide.

    But yeah, her sire did embrace her for exactly this kind of messed-up sadistic reason, as far as we know from the text....
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  • Well, those were some example, how will they work or not is up to your own tastes and style. And to be completely honest, CSI and Law & Order always bored me to tears.
    (The Shield and Dexter i like much better because things are rarely as neat to wrap up - to say the least - and the characters trying to be ruthless or tough is prone to backfiring badly, sometimes in weird ways, nearly half the time on them)

    Anyway, police films or series are many, look out for them, some "real-life cop shows" or even some documentaries here & there and mine what inspires or...
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  • And wings! He has Visceratika enough to have fully functioning wings!
    But anyway, i somehow doubt he did not have more culpable & disposable minions to vent his rage...




    "The Ten Thousand Hells of the Wan Kuei are the dreams & nightmares of the Ravnos Antediluvian! The mortals who enter those places in death are his thousand generations removed descendants!"
    (That's pretty much the excuse to remake them as kindred - and bring back the Rift Discipline from a World of Darkness 1ed - in my games)

    "Caine helped Smiling...
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  • It has been so long since i last read Chaos Factor i don't even remember how involved Galbraith actually was - and consequently to blame or not - for the whole "Samuel Haight paradox bomb" debacle.



    Canon is so overrated, rejoice in your own chronicle crazy....



    Dorian Adams, that's the one i don't like so much, because someone wasted time trying to come up with supposedly sensible explanations for his behaviour (that were complete horsecrap). The demented Indiana Jones movie nazi Tremere - studying the Dead Sea Scrolls, of all things...
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  • If i'm getting it right, the OP's question would be "what kind of advice could you give into roleplaying this character, one of a more forceful, assertive manner than i used to portray in my usual PCs, in trying to experiment a bit with going outside my milieu/sandbox?"

    Am i getting this right, SaulottheGentle?



    ​Usually. Doesn't mean they can't embrace people for more personal, emotional, nostalgic or plain irrational reasons like all other kindred.
    See Monçada & angry brat Lucita for a more than awesome canon example of that in action....
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  • Well, there's some leeway for that if one feels like, i guess. I know not few ST friends who did exactly that without batting an eyelash over the issue....
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  • If memory tricks me not, Shaitan manipulated her memories into believing she was Shaitan's lover, so he would be the last person on earth to want Galbraith destroyed. Also, the simple fact Anatole is being coherent should be susícious, i would say.



    EL DIABLO VERDE!!!! Sideways joke reference, as that guy as described definitely went rogue and against the Sabbat.




    Not behind them, they were already there before the Sabbat - they are simply piggybacking on the guy's ruthlessness for their own uses and agenda cover-up.

    ...
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  • Not quite the same, but even back in first edition, with the original Clanbook: Gangrel, there was some talk of characters getting access to some Garou stuff (rituals mainly) and so much stuff evolved out of just this back in those early games i simply had little use for most of the blood magic books, they were pretty much redundant for those tables.

    Simply put, their pack-oriented dynamic and animistic flavor fit with the overall personality of the Sabbat - and to a degree, other cult-oriented groups - and gave them a different feel from Thaumaturgy on a level that i just did not...
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  • True, won't deny that fact.

    But my doubt was related to Sorcerous Overlord's "dwarven bread" comment being a possible Discworld citation, if memory tricks me not....
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  • Discworld?...
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  • True. That Caitiff and Thin Bloods have in common being treated as dregs of kindred society due to general prejudice (enforced by some takes of Noddist scripture) doesn't have to make them the same, prejudice all too commonly has many forms that might or not mix-&-match, run at cross-purposes and so on.

    Damn, i once had a city with a Caitiff primogen - who became the PC's patron to boot - and he was a Noddist (Lilithist) and one of the first to rage about Thin Bloods and call for their curtailing!

    That said he was oppossed to simple execution in the streets by hounds...
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  • Must admit i have only most foggy recollections of the book, the group i did play with for a time was somewhat haphazard in looking for & adopting stuff from books beyond the core, mostly from bloodline, covenant & clanbooks, if memory tricks me not.

    That and some bits from other games i would use to "upgrade" some of the bits & concepts from Mythologies and some other places:

    - Awakening's Oneiros & astral travel mechanics i would use to expand concepts from the "Understanding the Fog of Eternity" chapter. This would indirectly connect...
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  • You and 90% of the readership? Appendices all too easily get forgotten, specially in adventures.



    Yes, having the occasional goofy/weirdo vampire, be it neonate, ancilla, elder or methuselah, can be good for the bit of unwinding or some welcome contrast at times. Mortius was awesome, Bela did serve for the occasional laugh, the Ventrue faking Dracula wannabe (because turning into a near masquerade breach would make him safe of Vitel, somehow) in D.C., not so much.

    Never STed LA by Night, but if i ever do, Bela is as undead as ever, just even better at Obfuscate...
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  • True, true - it's one of the reasons in my games people aren't even sure how many there are, as clans persisting after their founders, some ancients changing identities and spawning multiples clans through the ages, Caittifs evolving into bloodlines & clans (or lost clans devolving into bloodlines) and more are all things investigative kindred may come across evidence of....
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  • Two nitpicks:
    - Tegyrius is a vizier (judge to boot), not a sorcerer. Assamite Revised even has his stats for you to look.
    - He was a cavalry officer in the armies of Alexander as a mortal, so he's closer to Eletria and Critias in age. Helena is older than him by close to a whole millenium.



    If memory tricks me not, according to the clanbook, the Giovanni and their ancestors were worshipping Dis Pater for a number of centuries if not harkening back into late roman times, before the Augustus was ever contacted by the Cappadocians, so i would guess that it should...
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