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  • Arduras
    replied to Blood without a Heart?
    Biting Blade rite from the Blood Sorcery book.
    unfortunately, the only way to get blood without your heart is with Creation 4 and either Transmutation or Destruction 4.
    Transmutation 1 lets you use your blade instead of your fangs, and it is a mystical method of "feeding" as it puts it in quotes.
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  • They usually require aggravated, I don't think that'd be "assume permanent" still nasty though, to be sure. I'm currently working on a Threnody that has to be completed in sunlight after a lv 5 sacrifice (ie flaying yourself for a week) with my group to shed my bloodline (in the vein of the one that can shed someone's clan, but disciplines don't go to 6 anymore.)

    One more: Cruac references "levels of damage" where as in every other place of the book it's do an additional or count it as 2L or upgrade 1 lethal to aggravated.
    How would the majority interpret...
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  • Fair enough. For Berserker Style and Protean Claws, would I use my stamina as the durability of the weapon?
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  • Well he would've thrown the knife regardless in that situation, which is why it was sort of the ideal example. Two people enter a room, they both do something reflexive. In this case it's whoever declares first basically.
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  • So for most of the Disciplines, there are sacrifices up to 5 for Threnodies. What are some Protean Sacrifices for 4 / 5? I was thinking not hunting for a month (rather difficult for most), giving into bond or addiction to a vampire or both for 5. Stage 2 or 3 bond for 4 / 5 perhaps. It's all about being a predator and sacrificing those values for some period as witnessed by sleeping under a trodden area or not hunting for a week making 2 / 3

    Thought of a good one: Spend a day among mortals without feeding. Not only is this particularly dangerous, it's quite a huge F-U to your predator...
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  • Arduras
    replied to Cruac and Undocumented Styles..
    Awesome ^^" Thanks guys.
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  • Arduras
    replied to Cruac and Undocumented Styles..
    I was under the impression that was for the previous edition, I'll have to check it out.
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  • Arduras
    started a topic Cruac and Undocumented Styles..

    Cruac and Undocumented Styles..

    So there's Unbridled Chaos, The Void, and Primal Creation. But of all the rituals in B&S and Secrets of the Covenants, not one of them actually give rules for the stuff like
    "Transmutation" or "Divination" and what not. Where is this outlined and what benefits do these give aside from 4xp per dot to presumably open up a few rituals.


    edit: I think "Transmutation" refers to the Chaos, Creation for the Primal One, and Divination I guess refers to the Void one. Derp on my part, if anyone knows any other official styles let me know, lol....
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  • Arduras
    replied to "Mythic Form." A devotion?
    What do you mean house-ruled, pretty sure it's an instant action regardless. That's how my group interpreted it anyway. If you have proof otherwise let me know / give me a citation....
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  • Arduras
    replied to "Mythic Form." A devotion?
    Mythic Form was a Protean 6 or 7 thing in VTM iirc. If I were to even attempt to pitch this to my group they'd probably want Protean 5 Vigor 5 Resilience 5 (or at least 3 Vigor/Resilience)
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  • They don't all have to be from the same covenant, but I'd say it's rare to have members from the "opposite" covenant. ie if Lancea are in control, you won't see any Crones holding office (at least publicly/commonly)
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  • Arduras
    replied to Animalism, Getting Creative
    Swarm Tilt in the Sidebar p179. Bashing per turn that ignores any armour that doesn't cover the whole body, and half otherwise. Typically references only size 1 or smaller stuff, but still. When you summon say.. 7 city blocks' worth of animals that's probably a large af. swarm. I was debating using something akin to the Horde rules since Summon the Hunt brings out so much more than just bugs and birds if you want it to granted I suppose that'd just be represented as the damage being lethal instead of bashing.

    Demon's Primum is akin to our Blood Potency? if so a single target takes...
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  • Arduras
    replied to Animalism, Getting Creative
    Swarm Condition? Oh, Distracted (from Swarm Form merit reference) is pretty cool....
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  • Arduras
    replied to Animalism, Getting Creative
    Current group is on a rather extended disease oriented arc, never though to use plague bearers to actually.. spread a plague xD
    With the Beasts of Blood devotion, I actually made a devotion that lets you treat your dots in Animalism as herd dots (lose 1 dot/month of the herd granted though)

    For couriers you could just as easily tie a coded message to them or ask them to scratch out a message on the ground in imitation of one provided - even if they don't understand what the writing means.

    I kind of like the Frenzy ability at 4, and it lets you give a command. Turning...
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  • Arduras
    started a topic Animalism, Getting Creative

    Animalism, Getting Creative

    So, I thought I'd sit down for a bit and just come up with some uses for the Animalism Discipline, since it can be a real pain for people like myself who want mechanical examples to inspire their use beyond just textbook scenarios.

    So in no particular order:

    Guarding haven or other place in a scattered radius.
    Tracking targets, or monitoring area from above when near owner.
    Destroying soft targets (ie devour a corpse within a couple minutes, destroy the wires of many devices, eating something for retrieval later)
    K-9 Fighting Style bonuses (maybe? with...
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    Last edited by Arduras; 04-11-2017, 01:39 PM.

  • I suppose that works, while also seeing walls/ceiling/attached bits.
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  • I know there are tonnes of natural examples, but the DM wants a concrete mechanical description :/ Otherwise it'll be severely limited to just whatever is on the same explicit ground. What's a concise way of ruling this, just use echolocation but it travels through ground/walls/objects? Many things cause vibrations so there are nearly always some in the environment (where as echolocation is using a specific sound and listening for how long it takes to return from various surfaces)
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    Last edited by Arduras; 04-09-2017, 03:15 PM.

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  • Tremorsense came up at the table and while it's already been ruled a certain way (using D&D 3.5..) since I use Protean a lot what is a good way of defining tremorsense to a DM unfamiliar with Toph ^^" I don't have any other good examples (or examples of rules that work well).
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  • With the 5th dot in Coil of the Wyrm, can I Ride the Wave mid-frenzy to direct it a many times as I please (rolls allowing, of course) I'm considering capping it off, it's a wee bit vague as to it's utility beyond the rest of the Coil (aside from avoiding Torpor and extending Frenzy)
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  • Quick question. Coil of the Wyrm lets me get more health while in Frenzy. IF I were to fill those, and revert (assuming I could ignore Torpor from combat/while in frenzy) would that damage be upgraded to Aggravated on the normal track of lethal? Would it disappear alongside the health boxes? I know I need to heal to avoid Torpor, but I'd need to heal 5 (BP4, means 4 extra health in frenzy) to avoid Torpor once the Frenzy ended.
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