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  • Your Ideas for Laws and Procedures Princes or Archbishops should consider enacting.

    Let's get in the weeds of local sect-governance wonkery.

    If you were advising a local Prince or Archbishop on the rules, policies, and procedures they need to enact on their vampiric subjects, what would you advise?

    Obviously, everyone should follow the Traditions or the Code of Milan, but more specifically, what does that look like at the local level? Required attendance at Elysium/Vaulderie? Forced participation in sieges? Should creating ghouls of a certain type be forbidden? What should be required of newcomers and visitors? What should a ruler require before allowing...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Detecting Kinfolk
    Those of us who believe that Kinfolk are Supernatural believe that Kinfolk are a sub-set within the larger group of "Supernatural". The fact that a given Kinfolk also satisfies the requirements to be called "Supernatural" by being a fae, mage, or whatever, doesn't mean that being Kinfolk alone would not have sufficed.

    By analogy, Bill Gates has a hundred million dollars, therefore Bill Gates is rich. If you then discover that Bill Gates actually has 92 billion dollars, that discovery doesn't make other people with "only" $100M not rich.

    Admittedly,...
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  • Honestly, if you have the corebook and some d10 you have everything you need to begin running the game.

    There's a reason these sorts of items are now rare collector's pieces. They were never very popular. Sometimes, new players can feel over-whelmed by too many accessories and gimmicky tools.

    If you're desperate to buy something, wait to see what clans your players pick then offer to buy them the appropriate clanbooks. You'll have fifty bucks change, and the reading material may give your players some new story ideas. Even casual (read: reluctant) players can be enticed...
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  • Some random thoughts, and first-read reactions:

    1. The level 1 abilities feel contrived. For example, Transportation tells you who has Allies, and University tells you who has Contacts. The fields that tell you someone has Fame feel a little short-changed. Isn't the whole point of Fame that nearly everyone knows you have it? Maybe just have each field reveal who else has influence in that field. A Media influencer knows other Media people, but not Politics, Health, or University influencers. (Unless, of course, they find out through other means.)

    2. I would make increasing...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to I don't get the Sabbat
    CajunKhan

    So... what's the vampire equivalent of a Nordic-style social democracy?
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Brujah clan weakness
    Hmmm... as a long-time player I also agree it means Brujah can spend Willpower to modify rolls to end Frenzy, just like other vampires. It best fits the tradition of how Brujah are portrayed, and clan weaknesses generally don't give new abilities. (Though there are some debatable cases... search the forums for "Nagaraja weakness" or "Lasombra weakness".)

    That said, if I were a brand-new player reading this section for the first time, I would absolutely read it as, "spend a single willpower and the frenzy ends." Why? Because that's what the text says....
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Detecting Kinfolk
    Kinfolk can possess Gnosis and learn Gifts. If this is true for a given Kinfolk I would rule that Mytherceria 2 likely would detect when those abilities are actively used.

    Given the associations between Fianna and Fae, I might allow their Kinfolk to be passively identified by a Kiasyd in a "glance on the street" sort of way. It's a stretch, but I might allow this same passive detection for other Kinfolk under the theory that the capacity to breed new Garou and resist Delirium are supernatural abilities in their own right. I would almost certainly allow it for a Kinfolk...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Detecting Kinfolk
    This sounds like a job for the Werewolf forum, but since you're here.

    Biothaumaturgy 1 could do it, with proper samples to test. I suppose if you knew the identity of a local garou, you could research their family tree and test all their relatives. The biggest hurdle is knowing what a kinfolk is in the first place.

    If a vampire already knew what a kinfolk is, and had Auspex 2, I might rule the Kinfolk's aura is in some way different. "Werebeasts" have a bright, vibrant aura. Maybe some lesser version of this?

    Of course, the surest method is that...
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  • 142. "Franceso the Eskimo" Giovanni made his money the old fashioned way: he stole it under direction from his 97-year-old ghouled father who abducted and brutally raped Frank's mother over a period of six weeks to punish her old-money New England family for getting too uppity around their betters, Clan Giovanni.

    The Milliners, understandably, held little esteem for the resulting bastard baby boy, but given his pedigree they couldn't kill him outright. They could, however, disown Frank's mother, force her to shame his father by naming the baby after him, and send her to...
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  • It was also mentioned in BJD that it is is possible (indeed advisable) for very powerful elders to weaken their own blood to reduce the drawbacks of powerful blood, such as the inability to feed on animals. Given this, Enoch could be at nearly any effective generation the ST wants. If there was either mental deterioration during his period of torpor, of if other ancients simply stayed awake for a long time while he slept, he may not even have an edge in the experience department.

    OTOH, he could be a classic blood god, who plans to destroy the world next Tuesday.

    One thing...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to I don't get the Sabbat
    If in your game you want to run the sects as not so different, fine, do it. There are some substantive differences between them, though. Paths, Gehenna beliefs, and the Vaulderie being the three biggies.

    Bottom line:

    If you want to tell a story about outsiders and marginalized people who, faced with the looming horror of an imminent apocalypse, claim to be fighting the good fight, but get so caught up in their own perversions, obsessions and internecine feuds they forget to do anything useful to prepare for the oncoming onslaught... play the Sabbat.

    If you...
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  • The Gentleman Gamer

    Well, yeah, except, reading too much into things is kind of what we do here.
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  • valismedsen

    What was your thinking in choosing Conscience and Self-Control as the virtues? Not saying they're wrong, just wondering.

    Also, just as a mental exercise in analyzing this Path... what would the character often want to do on this Path that would be a sin, which is not a sin on Humanity? And, vice versa, what action would the character regularly perform that is allowed on this Path, but would be a sin on Humanity? Note, that I mean a sin at a level the character is likely to reach, and likely to want to break. If a Path had "Drinking from animals"...
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  • I think it's reasonable to assume some non-Giovanni know there is a connection between the Giovanni and the Milliners. Milliner NPCs in source-books, novels, and even the video game don't hesitate to use the last name "Milliner" as their name within kindred society. I'm not able to recall a specific instance of a Milliner using a pseudonym. Or am I mistaken?

    Surely, the Harpies of the Camarilla would eventually pick up on the pattern of some "Giovanni" being named Milliner. They might, at first, assume the Milliner name to be a purely local phenomenon. Once Harpies...
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  • Are you sure you mean turnstile? Maybe you meant metal detector or revolving door?

    I wouldn't spend time describing what most elevators have. Just explain the guards wave an ID badge in front of a video screen and the elevator starts moving.

    I'm not sure where this is set. "World Trade Center" is a generic term, like "stock exchange". What city is this? Maybe mention a local paper on the newstand or a transit center with a local station's name. Is it early in the night or late? Is it cold or hot? Wet or dry? Maybe they notice the men are flushed from...
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  • The basic concept seems sound.

    What sort of critique are you looking for? Usability for running a game? Characterization, style, and plotting? Errors of setting detail? Would you like a straight-up, blue pencil proofreading for typos, grammar, and spellcheck?

    There's no reason whatsoever to think it isn't, but is English your mother tongue?
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  • I would, personally, like to see some consolidation of the necromantic lines, but I wouldn't count on it. BJD made a point of showcasing the seemingly endless list of vampiric lines that are walking, rotting corpses, or necromancers, or both.

    Ever have a new player ask you, "I want to play a vampire who's a medium who sees ghosts. What clan should I play?" Wading through it all could take hours.

    Point of trivia: there are seven different lines with Necromancy as an in-clan discipline. Add the Samedi (who have Necromancy in Victorian), and there are more necro-corpsey...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to I don't get the Sabbat
    Oh, please. In this joint? Just don't use the words "Ravnos" and "rhymes with Broblematic" in the same sentence, and we all tend to be pretty civil.



    It's important to understand that early VtM arose from the cultural and political milieu of the US, and, in some ways, the white, protestant, middle class culture of the US. The writers wrote what they knew, as every writer does, and some of their viewpoints and expectations inevitably seeped into their work.

    If you look at the early depictions of the Sabbat, from a Doylist perspective, they...
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  • Kind of thinking out loud about multiple level-three bonds:
    • Are you saying multiple level three bonds are just for Tremere, or for all vampires?
    • How common would it be? Wouldn't the first rule a regnant make be, "don't drink others' blood"? Even if not expressed directly, the emotional devotion would likely preclude willingly feeding from others. I guess it depends how closely you align "love" (which the bond is imitating) and monogamy. Is it possible to love more than one person with all your heart?
    • Doesn't the Gothic half of the GothicPunk equation require love so deep,
    ...
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  • The main difference would be in the resulting style of chronicle. It may look like a small change. However, if you remove botches and 1's subtracting successes, you'll get a more swashbuckling, cinematic world. Picture Hollywood blockbusters, with characters swinging from chandeliers and running high speed car chases down staircases in the park. Everything will be bigger, louder, more dramatic, and less dangerous. Outrageous gambits and daringly brazen plans will be the order of the day... umm, night.

    This applies to social and intellectual actions as well. Need to get into an office...
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