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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Fate of Former PCs
    This happens a lot.

    Ideally, given conservation of detail, there should be no more fleshed-out npcs than needed for narrative purposes. That is, there might be a faceless crowd of fifty npcs attending Elysium, but the only npcs I spend any time developing are those directly involved with the plot. Those should all be necessary to the story, and not serve a role which could be served by another npc. (A small exception could exist for red herrings, but I suppose that's a narrative role, anyway.)

    Not adhering to conservation of detail can confuse the players (in a bad way),...
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  • When it's time for the npc to get busted, I vote the Tremere show up and demand the pcs hand over their friend... or else.

    Nothing like a moral quandry to encourage good roleplaying....
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  • A fluff treatment:

    Eumenes of Cardia was born (362bce) in the Thracian city of Cardia. His father started life as a poor wagon driver, of Scythian origins. While Eumenes was growing up, his father built the business into a prosperous shipping firm, while never gaining acceptance in aristocratic society. Little did the Cardian nobles know the family was older than most cities.

    They were descended from an ancient line of Scythian revenants, the Cimmerians. The Cimmerians, rulers of the lands in which they dwelt, were said to exist partially in this world and partially in...
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  • Necroscope0

    Given how long you have played together, and the fact that the rule could be read either way by a reasonable person, I still recommend you just let it go. Accept his ruling and move on.

    If it really bothers you, ask if you can trade in the power now that you fully understand the mechanics.

    It sounds like an awesome chronicle. Given power levels comparable to Hardestadt and Moncada, and the time period you're in, you could have a major impact on vampire history. What are your plans? Have you considered founding a new sect?
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  • Nosimplehiway
    started a topic Who is right?

    Who is right?

    Well, least wrong.

    The WoD is known for not having definitive truths. Everything is written from the viewpoint of an unreliable narrator. There may or may not be definitive answers to most of the big-picture, in-world mysteries. That said, there are lots of things we, as readers, more-or-less accept as true.

    In-world, which faction, sect, clan, or individual has the clearest picture of what the truth of the world is? Who has the least accurate appraisal of their situation? Who is soooo close, but just doesn't have that last piece of the puzzle?
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  • But... "Hey give me your blood for analysis And, now <deep staring into eyes> forget you gave it to me." Is not encouraged, though hardly unheard of.

    Really the bigger threat for the npc are conversations along the lines of:



    And the Tremere gets a fancy new hat....
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  • Bluecho

    I like #223 a great deal. OCTz make excellent spies and trackers. It's an excellent concept for a pc. It has a broad mission to fulfill, while operating more-or-less independently. Well done.

    Fun note: "True. Black. Hand." is grammatically ambiguous. Is it a true version of the black hand, or a hand which is truly black? I think the sect planned it that way.
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  • I've been wondering how the Noaid flaw would interact with V5, actually. Clans have a weakness, which scales based on Blood Potency, but the Noiad weakness is kind of all or nothing. I suppose it could be patterned after the Ventrue, and they can ignore it with willpower and Blood Potency.
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  • And, the Lhiannon have the best bloodline theme song ever.

    (Never mind the spelling.)

    Anyway, as for the Noiad, they are not just a bloodline of the Gangrel, and it frankly annoyed me when LotC canonized that. The presumed inspiration for them, the Noaiadi, are an interesting piece of Northern European history, old enough to consider the vikings a bunch of upstarts. Shamanic drum magic, ties to the land and animals, leading their people on visionquests. They deserve to be a stand-alone vampiric group.

    I would more easily believe the Noiad are in some distant...
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  • Assuming there are any Tremere physically present, yes. In VDA20, the Tremere are technically a full clan in the sense of having a third gen (sorta), but they have not had an opportunity to spread geographically. Even in the modern nights, they are thin on the ground in some places... even a few continents where the old-time clans (or clearly related bloodlines) have a presence.

    The chantry system is awesome at guaranteeing there will be a Tremere presence in a locale, whether other vampires like it or not. The problem with the chantry system is that it concentrates their influence...
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  • The Lhiannan are fine. If you think about it, it makes sense. The way a group of vampires becomes a major clan is by being successful and thriving. If you have a debilitating weakness, you don't thrive. It seems reasonable minor bloodlines should have some reason they haven't made it to major clan status.

    As for the Noiad, it does seem odd they were omitted. V20 says, "They no longer exist. If you run a historical game, okay". VDA says, "The who now? We've never heard of them."
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  • No, it's kind of brilliant.

    Why would this matter? It would be awesome, and therefore is allowed.

    No idea. But, if they diablerized a Tremere, they sure could. Especially if the ST wants them to.


    Diablerie would solve a lot of the canon concerns. Rules on diablerie have always been vague, and makes for a good deus ex machina.

    Bottom-line: you are a creative ST who has come up with a creative solution to a difficult problem. That solution will make for an interesting story. (Likely titled "The Shortest Lived NPC in TTRPG History".)...
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  • First, the specific rules question:
    I would rule that a power with an ongoing effect is activated, and the effect goes forward. Then, while that's running, you can use other powers.

    The theory being that an ongoing effect does not distract you or use up your own energies. Focus 5 changes how your mind works, and that change lasts for the listed duration, without any further effort on your part. Drawing a parallel with another path, let's say you used Weather Manipulation to summon a thick fog for cover. You could then go on to use whatever other powers you want, and the fog...
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  • If Oblivion had been included in the corebook, the most obvious Predator Types would have been Blood Leech and Sandman. Blood Leech because you are literally feeding on the dead. Sandman because sleeping people are figuratively dead, or at least in "repose". I suppose Bagger might be in the running, since the blood is cold.
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  • A few assumptions I ascribe to about Vicissitude and Clan Tzimisce:

    1. The Eldest seems to be on-board with the spread of Vicissitude as an experiment in personal advancement. Every good experiment needs a control group against which it is measured. If the experiment fails, the Eldest has the Old Clan on hand as a backup of the original, pre-experiment version of the clan. (Note: the current Eldest may not be the original. It wouldn't be the first time an antedeluvian was usurped. Or, actually, maybe it was. For that matter, the current one could be the Spectre of the old one, who...
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  • GilbyTheFat

    Thank you both. That's sweet of you to say....
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  • Here's hoping you have many long years of gaming together. Cheers!
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  • There is a middle ground between "All Old Clan Tzimisce hate vicissitude and kill any users of it on sight", and "Old Clan Tzimisce have no opinion on vicisssitude".

    We're talking about a belief a group of people share, and there are always going to be different levels of intensity to a belief, and different degrees of hypocrisy.

    The Old Clan, mechanically, has Dominate instead of Vicissitude.

    This could be because of a whole range of views. Here are few held by various Old Clan Tzimisce.
    "It's just a quirk of my sire's blood, nothing...
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  • There's a lot to unpack here.

    First, a disclaimer. You know your girlfriend, the dynamics of your relationship, and your gaming group best. So, all anyone else can do is give free advice... which is worth what you pay for it. The best person to go to for advice on all this is, of course, your girlfriend.

    Second, let's just pump the brakes for a moment. This development is an unalloyed good thing in a relationship. Be happy.

    Third, don't fuck it up.



    That sounds like a fun development in your relationship. You regularly play Quantic...
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  • This looks like fun. Let me try.


    Zookeeper
    You abduct people, keep them locked away in a secure location, and feed at your leisure.
    Specialty: Larceny (Kidnapping) or Streetwise (Human Trafficking)
    Discipline: Dominate or Potence
    Advantages: 3 spread between Herd and Haven. Add one dot to Haven for a Cell
    Flaws: Your Haven is Haunted 1 (the ghosts of former victims or another entity your dungeon has accidentally summoned), Enemies 2 (missing persons investigations often lead the authorities to your door)

    Trapdoor Spider
    You hunt...
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