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  • I get that. I just disagree that 100 (or 75 or 25) mental health professionals is insufficient to develop a professional literature on the topic of vampiric behavior and psychology. This is especially true if you add to that others on the outer edges of that field (biologists, sociologists, biostatisticians, clinical care professionals like nurses, etc.) who could give reasonable criticism, if not literal peer review. Given the problems with establishing a basic science of vampires (anatomy, physiology, descriptive ethology, molecular and cell biology) the involvement of a cross-disciplinary peer...
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  • BenjCano The kindred population is not a simple random sample. Several clans have a marked preference for those with a formal education. Can we agree that a PhD or equivalent (regardless of field) is more likely to be embraced than, say, someone who has not completed a high school education? Certainly there are truck drivers and short-order cooks who are embraced, but in a lower proportion than those with a graduate degree. This is, of course, more true among certain clans than others. Tremere, Ventrue, Toreador, Tzimisce, and Lasombra all have a marked preference for those with a formal education....
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  • Hmmm...

    How about someone who has a background in psychiatry, and the philosophy of morality and ethics to help hack through just such thorny issues? They could serve as an advisor to low Humanity vampires in maintaining or even increasing Humanity.
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  • It's no harder at all. The first dot of a discipline, any discipline, costs 10xp. It doesn't matter if it's in-clan or out.

    Yes, this is weird, but it's how the rules are written. (V20, p128) So, if an actual Giovanni wanted to learn dot one of Necromancy, it would cost 10xp. If a Caitiff learned Necromancy 1, it would cost 10 xp. For that matter, if a Gangrel learned Necromancy 1, it would cost 10 xp. Now, when it's out of clan, the rules require the student to taste the blood of the teacher before instruction begins. Otherwise, same process.

    Note that if a Caitiff were...
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  • How about a vampire who is a veterinarian?

    Dr. Anna Njordsen was a veterinarian working with the police, maintaining the K-9 corps, crowd-control horses, and enforcing animal cruelty laws. She became disgusted with human immorality to animals. She was ready to quit and open an animal shelter, when her sire, a Noiad of the Sabbat, hit her with a shovel. (In her case, he actually used a pair of horse-sized obstetric forceps.)

    Her nomadic pack travels from city to city, and every Gangrel, Nosferatu, Tzimisce, and Ravnos in the region has her card posted in their haven. Just...
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  • The more usual back-story for a Giovanni involves multiple "sires".

    1. There is an established Giovanni, usually at least an Ancilla if not an Anzione (elder) of the clan, who takes an interest in you and thinks you would make a good addition to the clan. This will usually be a family member, such as one of your ancestors. Often you will have already received the proxy kiss from this mentor, with a clan elder's permission. (And, no, the Domitor can't usually give themselves permission.) The Domitor recommends to a superior, almost always a proper Anzione or three, that the...
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  • Writing anything takes time and work. You have a really good kernel of a concept. I would not throw it away, because there are some really good ideas within it. Maybe, just try to strip it down to the most essential elements, then build it back up with details that advance those core elements.



    The Ten Commandments could work, especially for a small bloodline focused on a narrow religious background. There are still considerable differences in how the Abrahamic religions interpret them, but it's a good start toward tighter definition.



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  • BenjCano

    You are absolutely right about the Nosferatu! I had not even thought of them. In their case, at least they can shop online now. Small consolation, but when you're a Nosferatu you have to take the tiny wins where you can.

    I'm not saying expanding the Lasombra weakness to include electronic devices makes it a debilitating weakness. It just changes it from a trivial flaw to a minor one, but it is a change. And it's a change that carries all sorts of weird complications an ST will need to take into account.

    The Lasombra have always had one of the more...
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  • Whether Lasombra are visible to mechanical and electronic sensors, though, can greatly change the intensity of the weakness.

    If they are not visible to electronic devices they will likely have difficulty with automatic doors, finding themselves unable to easily enter big box stores, hospitals, and many office buildings. They may have difficulty using phones and ATMs dependent on touch screen technology... almost certainly FTRI touchscreens, and possibly capacitative touch screens. Even if the touchscreens work, the face recognition security on iPhones may not. Their ability to simply...
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  • For (nearly) every other clan, I would agree with you. However, if an individual ST wants a less predictable version of the Lasombra weakness it could be justified.

    It's a well established part of the Lasombra fluff that there is an alien intelligence which lies behind (within? suffused throughout?) the shadows the Keepers don't so much create as call forth. If an ST wanted to have the weakness activate when least convenient for the PC, but not when it would be helpful, it could be justified as that alien intelligence sabotaging the Lasombra.

    So, the Lasombra weakness,...
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  • If your goal is to publish a bloodline that might sell, consider your audience. If someone is actually buying a bloodline online instead of either designing one of their own or figuring out a way to fit this bloodline's concept into an existing group, they are the sort of player looking to bring something novel to the table without hours of effort.

    What your audience is most emphatically not, are people who want to spend hours debating what exactly counts as a sin in the context of this game. If the folks here, in the universe's center of over-analyzing game-line minutiae, are finding...
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  • Is it possible you're thinking of the Xi Dundu? Part of their weakness is that they cast no shadow.

    (Which is a nearly impossible to run weakness, if you maintain any level of consistency.)...
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  • This raises a question I have been wondering about lately.

    Usually in the Camarilla, once you've been accepted by the Prince, you show up at Elysium every once in a while so everybody knows your face, if only to avoid any misunderstandings with the scourge. Otherwise you just kind of do your own thing as long as you don't break any traditions. Oh, you'll have a hard go of it as a semi-autarkis, but the Camarilla appreciates the value of lip service. This is, of course, easier for some clans than others. Tremere and Ventrue are much less likely to accept, "I'm busy tonight, how's...
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  • 102: AnnaMarie Librizzi was born in Sicily in 1899. Her mother was a simple cleaning woman for a rich family who lived in a villa high atop the nearest hill. Her mother was also a not-so-secret secret alcoholic. Their father was nowhere to be found, and her mother could just barely hold herself together enough to get up every morning to go scrub the marble floors of her boss's house. When Mama got home each night, she would retreat to her room and not come out again until the next morning.

    From an early age, AnnaMarie learned that anything she (or her twin brother, Alberto) needed...
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  • I think the heart of the problem is muddled and contradictory goals. Your character wants to maintain total control over those around him, but not feel like (or look like) someone who tries to control everyone around him.

    No matter what you do to use others to attain your own goals, you will be distorting their way of thinking to match your goals. The Blood Bond, Dominate, Presence, etc. are certainly the bluntest means available. But, make no mistake, if you manipulate your childer into not being capable of distancing themselves from your influence, or else face some undesirable...
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  • Movement of the Mind is a focusing of mystic energy in the form of blood.

    Obtenebration blurs the line between the vampire's own body, surrounding shadows, and darkness the vampire generates... and probably some sort of extra-dimensional abyss. So, Obtenebration is a quasi-physical discipline, like Vicissitude or Protean. This allows Potence and Celerity to have synergy with it.

    The real question is whether a vampire with Vicissitude and Obtenebration could make the arms of the abyss look like something other than shadow, say, thrashing octopus tentacles.
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  • The various blood sorcerers likely have the advantage in flexibility of effects they can conjure in the Umbra and amount of knowledge about the planes, but it takes many long years of study and experimentation. In the early stages of those studies, the thamaturge is very vulnerable to the dangers of the Umbra.

    Among vampires, the Ahrimanes probably have the most direct, personal connection to the Umbra. At the first level of Spiritus, an in-clan (and therefore largely instinctive) discipline, they can awaken the spirit of an object and receive assistance from them. At the second dot,...
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  • I'm just curious for more info on this setting.

    Lasombra is holding the Sabbat? Sooo... do the Sabbat still believe they are the Sword of Caine and destined to destroy his greatest enemies, the antedeluvians? Wasn't their original premise that Antedeluvians could be... and had been... destroyed? If Lasombra and Tzimisce (and others) have come back, then what's the point of the sect? And, what in the world could Lasombra want with a bunch of vampires who have spent the past 500 years bragging about killing him?

    Arikel is "holding" the Camarilla? Does she just...
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  • Nosimplehiway
    replied to Danava
    Not trying to Necromancer this thread. Stumbled across it surprisingly high on an outside Google search for such an old thread. It has some outdated info which could cause confusion, so I'm updating it.

    The Danava were fully written up in VtDA20 (pub. 2015), and a quick sketch can be found here.

    Oh, and if you're looking for a pronunciation: Danava....
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  • Questions About Tzimisce Weakness

    I've some questions about the Tzimisce weakness. Has anyone seen any RAW or RAI answers to these?
    1. From how large of an area is "native soil" to be acquired? If we take Kraina as examples of homelands (Transylvania: 102,834 km2, the Black Sea: 436,402 km2, Białowieża Forest: 3,085.8 km2... an average of 180,000 km2, roughly the size of Missouri or Uruguay), native soil seems to be from a rather large area. It also seems rather large if we use the concept of a Voivodeship for comparison. However, the clan weakness description in both DAV20 and V20 references graveyards and "birthplaces",
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