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  • Honestly, the morality system in Vampire strikes me as a bigger sign of the game's inherent subliminal religiosity than the Caine and Abel myth. The basic needs that every other form of life has are evil when expressed by the player character, and a vampire that doesn't despise him/herself for eating is punished by the game mechanics. This is more alien to me than any of the Paths of Enlightenment manage to be, and I strongly believe that it's because I don't believe that God hates me for existing in real life.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Best Cult for a Vampire
    I'd go with sun worshippers. That way you know everyone on the compound is awake if the feds coming knocking during the day.
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  • In the Modern Nights, this also helps the Nosferatu avoid having to relocate or dig out a new sewer system with blackjack and hookers every time a city changes hands....
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  • Reasor
    replied to End Times yes or no?
    Taking the idea of Gehenna as a metaphor for real world Y2K panic and running with it, I'd love to see a supplement, game, or other media project set in the early 80's. It's too bad that CoD's "New Age Requiem" book makes the idea seem redundant.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    Alternatively, one could houserule that any given species of supernaturals has the rules that it has because it is bound by the mythology surrounding it - particularly at a gaming table where the mythology of Mage: The Ascension holds sway and consensus belief matters.
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  • Now that you mention it, didn't all of these "one ethnicity per clan" clans, including but not limited to the Ravnos, Lasombra, and Giovanni, come from books published after the original Chicago By Night? My collection starts with the 2nd Edition core rulebook, and even in that the only clans presented are the original Camarilla Seven, plus the Caitiffs....
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  • She's a character from Finnish mythology, strictly speaking, translated into World of Darkness lore in the same way that Baba Yaga was.

    Louhi is mentioned as an off-camera character in at least four or five different books, always plotting in the distance to enact a ritual that will blot out the sun.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Vehicular combat
    I imagine that vampire needs to keep driving,after the impact, unless it's a silver car. If the vampire has used the car or truck to pin a werewolf to a wall or a tree, the vampire needs to get out and run.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Kuei-jin: How to Fix?
    I'd integrate the Wan Kuei to the point of erasing them as a unique monster type and make them something that already exists. Make a decision as to whether the Wan Kuei are vampires, revenants, mummies, or what. What the choice is doesn't matter much, as long as it's something that already exists in western cities. A large part of the problematic racism is cut out once you decide that there's nothing about the souls of people living in Asia that makes their afterlife different from the afterlives of everybody else. Whatever the Wan Kuei are, a person from the western world can also be that....
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  • Reasor
    replied to Wan Xian?
    How much of early Mage would you say was Baby Boomers mythologizing their own generation's counterculture? Hippies as heroes, people with jobs as the antagonists. Like the sort of people who credited themselves for ending the Vietnam War with drugs and rock and roll, when in actual reality the North Vietnamese ended that conflict by winning it....
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  • Speaking of Toreador, it's always struck me as cute that nobody knows where their Antedeluvian is, but the Brujah still fume over Troile's burial at Carthage. Troile wasn't enough of a combatant to turn the tide of the battle when the Romans invaded, but his/her Presence is able to reach around the globe after millennia of starvation and torpor. Troile has Presence too high to keep a low profile. Arikel does not. If Arikel has a 10 dot gimmick, it's something else. A Celerity power, possibly.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Rivals to Pentex
    I'm the farthest thing from an expert on Mage lore, but don't several wings of the Technocracy also have a lot of front companies as part of their war to influence culture and consensus reality?
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  • I could go with just alien invaders.
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  • Reasor
    replied to WIR Camarilla - Unredacted
    Wasn't there at least one Requiem supplement where mutual blood bonds are shunned as a perversion, because neither partner has leverage over the other? I want to say it might have been one of the faction books. It's nagging me that I can't recall which book it was now, because I really liked the idea of vampires being scandalized by a relationship between equals instead of master and slave. It really brought home the age of and resistance to change in vampiric society, and the fact that vampirism is a culture defined by a curse, in one stroke.
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  • I have a weakness for irony, so I love this. A True Headcanon Secret (tm) that I've used before was that the Sleepers were the Antedeluvians, and that the Baali were keeping the world safe from Gehenna....
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  • CTPhipp's response is a good connecting of a lot of the dots, with material from a Werewolf adventure and the backstory of Demon: The Fall mixed in with material from Revised Edition Vampire and the first edition of Vampire Dark Age, which is where the Baali first started getting some major lore,

    The agnostic "take what works for your game table" spirit of V20 has exploded the number of options for using the Baali now, with one Salubri NPC in Beckett's Jyhad Diary even asserting that any Antedeluvian whose moral path hits zero becomes Ashur and that any Antedeluvian could...
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  • Reasor
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    I think it's worth pointing out that going from an argument that greater access to representation would only confuse and enrage old vampires (when there's a broad and growing body of scholarship pointing to the invention of heterosexuality as a relatively recent development in western history), to one that greater access to representation has been rejected in modern pop entertainment (as soundly rejected by Undead Rabbit, who brought receipts in the form of links) is itself a major moving of the goalposts.

    I'd recommend dropping the matter and moving on....
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  • Reasor
    replied to Baali Apostasy questions
    It depends on which edition of the game the book is from, who wrote it, and what the Storyteller prefers to use. The iteration of Daimonion that you've cited presents an alternative version of Daimonion that doubles down on the re-embrace being a Baali trademark by putting it in their clan discipline instead of in Dark Thaumaturgy. That's all....
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  • Camilla was not only Prince of Rome, he was Prince when Rome successfully defeated Troile, Moloch, and their combined forces at Carthage. A reappearance on Camilla's part (and Beckett's Guide to the Jyhad suggests that he could definitely be back up on his feet) would have a cataclysmic impact on international Kindred politics.
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  • Reasor
    replied to Rivals to Pentex
    I've always thought that this was the answer to the Ventrue mystery of the "Hidden Masters." There was no great conspiracy to thwart the clan, they just don't have a monopoly on the idea of supernatural businesspersons.
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