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  • The True Black Hand are actually a well written sect.

    The Sabbat are cool as a sect BECAUSE of their hypocrisy and contradictions. It's a church of contortions and paradoxes.

    Ravnos are only good as wild cards who reject vampiric rules and society.

    The hungry dead are actually a great plot element.

    Thaumaturgy isn't overpowered. Blood Mage PC's are often pitched as "a prodigy of magic" and that's where the problem starts.

    Nagaraja are really awesome and their weakness is more manageable than you'd think, it's just that...
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  • 11twiggins
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    V20's sunlight rules have varying levels per turn and varying soak difficulty depending on the type of sunlight and the context.

    Any "armor" against sunlight is simply modifying that. A curtain slightly obscuring the sun's rays is one example, and a full body suit which covers all of your skin is another.

    But VtM has always made it clear that Vampires struggle to act during the day, sunlight being simply the most lethal expression of this. In V20 your dice pools are limited to your Humanity/Path score, and you need to spend Willpower to act in most situatio...
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  • 11twiggins
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    But they... um... did? Did he read V20? Lore of the Clans had a reference to the idea that the Assamites "did 9/11". It then falls onto the side of 'No, humans planned and carried out the attacks... but maybe some Vampires were involved. And blaming clan Assamite is basically just a racist assumption by certain Vampires naturally.'...
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  • 11twiggins
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    Strangely "this argument is inconsequential" and "this is all beneath me", as arguments, tend to wear thin. Eventually an observant bystander will at least wonder "why are you making such a fuss over the discussion then?"

    I mean personally I think it's kind of consequential to VtM, and to gay people. I clearly, from my own viewpoint, have a good reason to spend time talking about it and discussing how it could be done better, from my perspective as a gay man and my perspective as a storyteller and amateur writer.

    If you think it's much ado...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    Well blaming the tragedy on Vampires wholesale is lazy, and in my opinion, disrespectful. One of the most important things to learn from these events is that human society has a great deal of capacity for committing horrific acts, and that we should strive to respect eachother and protect the rights of marginalized groups. The problem in Chechnya is extremism and bigoted homophobia.

    I've read about a girl who was murdered by her family for being a lesbian, since the state makes it clear (in an unofficially official way) that honour killings are what they expect of good citizens, and...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    Of the text? The text itself claims that the state's homophobic hate crimes originate with the control of Vampires, who do it as a psyop to cover up their control of the state. It's also claimed that the chief human perpetrator is the ghoul of the Sultan (Prince). Of course this might be framed as "it's from a character's perspective, he could be wrong", but authors choose what goes into a book. They're not impartial figures channeling some Other onto the page. The lore, as presented in the preview at least (I haven't purchased the book since I'm not personally investing £ in V5), is...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    Since I apparently don't value my time, I'll go ahead and deconstruct this. Ooh, deconstruct. That's Frankfurt School stuff. I obviously hate The West (TM) and Free Speech. Let's go in order.

    - Lots of ad hominem word salad about SJWs. Not much to critique in the intro, but that's not a problem. Not everything in a statement needs to be logical. I'm sure the point is coming up.

    - "It's just Fiction". This shows a profound amount of disrespect towards authors, surely? Works of art can be incredibly important, and acting like they exist in a vacuum is dumb. Books...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    Exactly. If you were to release a preview of a book chapter, or a rough concept, and someone were to point out something they disliked or thought could use some work, you'd happily engage with that critique. You naturally don't implement everything you're told to, and you might stand by an idea if you feel that it's important to your art, but no one is "censoring" you if they happen to say that the idea of a weredeer is dumb in early feedback. As it happens I like weredeer, but that's the most benign example of feedback I could think of......
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  • 11twiggins
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    All of this potential censorship is hurting The Troops. Soros is probably funding it. I suggest that everyone who has critiqued V5 Camarilla's use of the Chechan hate crimes against LGBT people be banned from the forum to protect freedom of speech.
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  • 11twiggins
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    Fully agreed. If I were tweaking the idea of Malkav's insanity having some relation to the 'madness' of extremism, I would instead have the slumbering Antedeluvian feeding on the intense psychic energies associated with war and extremism. It's not that the region is "insane" or that Malkav is causing Islamic State or whatever, it's that it coincidentally is quickening his return from Torpor.

    Have Vampires feeding off of these events, thematically speaking, rather than instigating them. Occasionally pulling strings and pushing an agenda of course, but definitely less so with...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    This just in; freedom of speech means freedom from consequences. Anyone who disagrees with you or comments on what you say is censoring you and is one of The Bad People. Someone really needs to force them to stop talking, to protect... freedoms.
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  • There is a system in 20th Anniversary Edition of WoD (although V20 might not have it) where you can pay 2x the cost of a merit in EXP to acquire it, if it's suitable. For example paying 2 EXP to acquire Eat Food by practicing holding down a glass of water and some bread makes sense.

    Furthermore, you get 5 dots to go in Backgrounds already! If you're a homeless Vampire it's because you went Generation 5 and then put 0 of your freebies into backgrounds. I mean your ST might let it slide but you can hardly blame the system for your guy being a vampire hobo.
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    I mean unsolvable is a push. The Lasombra have always been great... patrons of the church. And some of them were legitimately pious!

    The idea could be "God has cursed me, there's no hope for me to go to heaven", but there's no real evidence of that. There are a lot of theological arguments which could explain the situation. You're being tested by God; all this power and the urge to do evil, if you manage to avoid sinning that's REAL proof of the strength of your devotion and the goodness of your soul! Alternatively, you've been recruited by some evil force, but you still...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    I can see why you'd think that. And I have signed.

    Personally I feel like it's poorly written all-round, even when you get past the most obvious problems. In the context of VtM it just doesn't make any sense to present it this way. That isn't to say that removing the idea that the victims are fed upon would fix it!...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    The problem isn't discussing human tragedy. Mage books talk about black americans being sterilized and experimented on by the US medical community up until recent history; one of the biggest Archmages in the Lore has this as part of his backstory, his mother being tricked by the Technocracy. Werewolf books talk about genocides of native populations, and the mistreatment of indigenous cultures.

    The problem is that a very specific example of human tragedy, an individual ongoing human rights crisis, has been named and also blamed on Vampires. I would be perfectly happy to see the Chechen...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    I've realized this is even more dumb than I had thought, actually.

    Forget the hugely important issues with how... morally reprehensible, tone deaf and inappropriate that whole segment was.

    Think about Islamic Vampires, how they're presented in VtM, and the logical implications of the religious rules of Islam on being a Vampire.

    If you're Islamic, similar to being Jewish, there are requirements with regards to what you can and can't eat. The obvious example is Pork. This likely originated in both religions due to the prevalence of infection with bacterial...
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  • 11twiggins
    replied to V5 Camarilla, Chechnya
    I probably shouldn't be surprised, and yet I am....
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  • Completely agreed. Something has gone horribly wrong with the WoD. I know queer Chechens, including a gay guy who has spent most of his life helping gay and trans people emigrate. Considering the very real human suffering that occurs there, I can't see how a civilized human being could find this new content humorous or acceptable.

    It's sad to see that a line which was once a vanguard for acceptance of LGBT people (back when it was actually controversial in the main target nations, rather than doing it the moment it becomes safe as is the norm with media) is now pissing on that to...
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  • 11twiggins
    started a topic V5 Camarilla, Chechnya

    V5 Camarilla, Chechnya

    Okay, so this is pretty grim. If you don't know about the situation in Chechnya IRL, it's very, very bad. We're talking about the most sadistic kinds of torture you can imagine. I'm not going to detail all of it here of course, but the situation is bleak. If anyone is interested I can DM a dossier describing the methods used by the state, which includes examples of known deaths and the torture techniques used.

    But it's okay! The "controversy", this media hysteria... it's all fake news! You see in reality, it's all Vampires creating a load of homophobic noise as a COVER for...
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