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  • Physically kick them in the face until they stop being obstacles to mankinds progress through technology using hands of death without the additional forces to make it aggravated, so it's just a truckload of bashing damage.

    Have backup at every entrance, and a ward around the property to prevent correspondence....
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  • That is exactly how my last character would solve the problem. By reporting everything back to his technocratic superiors, get into a stupid fistfight with one of the cabalmates, ruining the whole mission.

    And then they would all go off to go do something else. Mixed Technocracy/Tradition groups get weird.
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  • Try and fail to convincingly convince this Cabal that he's not beaming everything he sees directly to technocratic servers for later analysis. Then end up in an argument with his erstwhile comrades, fistfighting one. We carry on as usual after this. My character never realizing that these people are actually deviants.
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  • There is that procedure in Guide to the Technocracy that allows you to Target a crowd. You roll to see what level of will power your speech overcomes. Then anyone who is below that, and part of the crowd is convinced you're telling the truth.
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  • The issue with that is that apart from the aforementioned exception via Aztec magic. It's explicitly impossible to draw quintessence from an unwilling human sacrifice because all the quintessence is basically used up in a spell to the effect of "Fuck this guy, he's not getting anything."
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  • Mage. The game where you can do anything and change the very nature of reality. And somehow some old coot STILL manages to break the rules of the setting. : P...
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  • Or just drop some quintessence on it. You can condense quintessence out of forces in the same way you can sacrifice willing living things or objects. Get a big capacitor in your house and watch your electric bill soar....
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  • There is literally zero point to human sacrifice of an unwilling subject. You don't even get any quintessence out of it, it's just utterly pointless.
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  • A wand the size of an over large pencil is not a "Cumbersome physical trapping or tool" It's a small easily used physical trapping and tool. Magic Words are not a 'slow complex ritual' You could bark out an incantation pretty quickly if you needed to. Perhaps not QUITE as fast as you could pull a trigger, but still.

    Trying to claim something as small and inobtrusive as a wand or a necklace is a "Cumbersome Physical Trapping or Tool" is inane....
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  • Yeah, Revised it's a 7-dot merit just to get 1 point of True Faith, and it's openly stated that getting more is nigh on impossible. And using it to perform blatant miracles can 'burn out' your faith if you begin to treat it like a tool.
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  • I play Revised. The details of what sorts of 'Miracles' you can pull are essentially up to the ST and are basically down to "You can perform a feat of appropriate magick without paradox."

    Normally it just provides +1 Willpower and a die of innate countermagick....
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  • For an Iterator Character I have, he had True Faith in Humanity. Having essentially taken the disappearance of the Computer he had been raised to believe was an infallible god machine fairly hard, he redirected his faith towards the people who made it. Essentially taking the Anthropic Principle to it's logical conclusion and deciding that Humanity as a collective is a god that has lost it's way.

    Quite clearly, this lead to a rather militant stance towards any 'godlike' being that demanded worship. Clearly they were parasitic false deities siphoning off humanities own power and needed...
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  • Chuck the M20 foci rules and guidelines under a bus?

    This might not seem particularly constructive, but it really is the best way to deal with them.

    As for how to run a Hermetic, just grab a single magic wand. Or maybe a crystal or something else suitably mystic to wave around Or maybe just use hand gestures. Combine with short and sweet incantations invoking whatever cosmic force you wish to alter.

    "Orsanai!" *waves a hand at the car with thumb and index finger extended away from the remainder.* now that car is on fire. For more ritualistic prepared...
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  • I could see the life focus getting old fast. On the cultist, it sounds good at first but even at it's least intrusive, steamy massage sessions for extended healing could be awkward.
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  • How can you reach something that's outside of space?

    Going first doesn't help you if you can't reach the target....
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  • World-Spanning Strategy. Personally I find that a Mage game that doesn't span the entire globe is kind of squandering the potential.
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  • Essentially, yes.

    Personally I run it so that damage is still variable. But the extras, (Duration, Distance, other non-variable features.) are programmed in and set.

    Because otherwise you get the sillyness of someone trying to set the damage at ridiculous numbers.
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Hedge Magic
    Personally I find it silly. IMO, static magic should essentially be a form of artifact/grimiore.

    You use prime 5/forces 4 to develop the lightning fist technique. Those who wish to learn it sacrifice one WP in addition to whatever limitations the creator builds in. Then you can use your ki to punch lightning bolt at people. Rolling the Arete of the path.
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Mage in the Real World
    These were not caused by "Oh no, their skin is a different color." These were caused by "Their cultures superstitious bullshit opens up holes for extradimensional horrors to invade the earth we need to erase that culture."

    The Technocracy, eastern branches aside, are EXPLICITLY anti-racism. Racism is Unmutual, and can actually get you demoted or brainwashed. And even then the Eastern Branches are racist against Non-Chinese rather than the typical image of racism....
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  • In general we make our own settings, but they all have a fairly similar D&D feel....
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