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  • Enginseer-42
    started a topic Mortal Vs the Night.

    Mortal Vs the Night.

    So, the question I have to ask is, what are the hurdles to cross for a Mortal who wants to 'live' in the world of Vampire the Masquerade, specifically in V20? There's the Titular Masquerade itself, but Vampires aren't above using humans as pawns. So it seems to me that a combination of positive (Working to aid the powers that be in whatever the Vampiric Hierarchy is.) and Negative (Killing or maiming vampires who come after the Human.) reinforcement would earn the Potential Mortal in the Inner Circle a reprieve of execution because of the Masquerade, Assuming of course they could keep their mouth...
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Portable Reality Zone?
    Isn't that exactly what a Cult is? There's nothing mystical to a cult, it just represents people who believe that the mage is capable of the impossible. If they go to great lengths to make their name a household one for doing impossible things. To the point where their proverbial cult, is everyone......
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  • Prediction. Social Engineering.

    Iteration X does not hold to the belief that it's better to try and fail than not try at all. They do believe however that victory is just a matter of making the right decisions. To make the right decisions, you need information to base it upon.

    Social Engineering, because their internal culture is vastly different to the point of causing discomfort in new recruits because of culture shock.
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Portable Reality Zone?
    I think your latching on to the stage magician thing and missing the point.

    I mean if a Mage just takes the hit on the nose when it comes to paradox and does magic in public frequently, to the point where people actually expect that from them. Aside from pissing off the paradox spirits and the Technocracy, would this have any effect?
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  • Enginseer-42
    started a topic Portable Reality Zone?

    Portable Reality Zone?

    So, public perception of events has an effect on the perceived reality of magic.

    What if a person deliberately cultivated a reputation for doing the impossible? For example a famous stage magician or what have you. Would they carry a reality zone with them? Presuming they made it known who they were and were believed?
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Technocratic Awakening
    As I recall, barring immediate induction into the Technocracy...

    Imagine you're a scientist or an engineer. Working on something revolutionary and it works, something clicks and the world becomes clearer, you start spitting out theories to justify your experiments... But the experiments always seem to fail in the light of day.

    Then, when it looks like your career is in ruins.. someone takes you aside and explains what happened.
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to creating items
    Forged By Dragons Fire in revised.
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  • Yes Indoctrination level 8 explicitly makes the indoctrinated not count as sleepers....
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  • They DON'T have an assembly line of ships. This is more or less Explicitly stated in Void Engineer Rev. They bring in old destroyed ships, and retrofit them to function again. There are 4 Qui La Machinae in the ENTIRE VE fleet. Why? because they were in drydock when the Avatar storm hit.

    Or alternatively, from machinery that creates quintessence, the mechanical details of which I've posted before, and of which there are examples of in the books themselves.

    It's not even that, the VE have been noted renegades for a long time in the fluff. Pointing out that the Renegades...
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  • The difference being Vietnam and Afghanistan are more or less worthless chunks of the map and the Guerilla force are the natives to that map.

    A more apt comparison would be the Modern US invading India in the middle of British Occupation....
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Time Magic/Paradox Question
    Aaaand? They shortened their lives by FIVE YEARS....
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  • I'm not even sure what you're arguing. The VE Don't Like the NWO. This was fairly clear. They're willing to work with the Syndicate to a limited degree, but still don't like doing so, and violently rebuff any oversight.

    And no, the Syndicate is not NECESSARY for the creation of voidcraft. A useful shortcut? Sure. But not necessary.

    The Time Motion Managers are predicting the future. I think you're thinking of the Macrotechnicians.
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Time Magic/Paradox Question
    Why would it have any effect at all? The effect was contained within the Sanctum. Or would you also apply paradox because someone burned something using magic in a Sanctum?

    The whole point of a Sanctum is that everything is Coincidental there.
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  • The issue with the whole "Economy of Scale" argument is that noone likes the Syndicate. The two main constructors of Void Ships and Orbital Battle Stations are the Void Engineers and to a lesser degree Iteration X.

    The Iteration X is firmly on the side of the NWO in the rifts that currently plague the Union and consider the Syndicate a bunch of useless cowards. And the Void Engineers don't trust anyone from the Mudball because of Threat Null.

    The Syndicate would, could, and DOES demand eyes on anything that costs that much of their money.
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  • Plus, it can't be understated that each and every voidcraft that the VE construct? Every success put into it costs $10,000,000. And you need a LOT of successes to get one that's half decent.

    To put this into perspective, the X160 Qui La Machinae was designed as a cost effective alternative to previous battleships. It requires 777 Successes to construct. That's $7,770,000,000 in US Currency.

    Per Ship....
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  • IIRC it was caused by the combination of a Primally Charged nuke destroying the avatars of those caught in the radius when they bombed the Ravnos antidilluvian. and an Etherite experimenting with nukes in the Umbra.

    In any case the answer is because none of these things are actually a threat. While the Traditions might view the union as their enemies in a great war for reality, the Union views all superstionists as the broken remnants of a defeated age.

    Their current operation isn't a war. They'd have to have a serious opponent for that. They view it as much closer to...
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  • Spirit 5 or gaining a Familiar.
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  • Waste of time and resources.

    Picture the war between the Technocracy and deviant like it's taking place on an old crumbling wooden platform out in the ocean.

    The Technocracy is at present holding the ground it has while it builds new steel platforms beneath the wood. On the surface it looks like they're doing nothing, but one day the work will be completed and they can tip the rest of the wooden platform, and all the superstionists who cling to it, into the sea....
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Who is John Courage?
    Well, if you want to pull from IRL influences as well as game...

    The Taftani own the middle east more or less. The richest parts of it are their plaything. Therefore, the refugee crisis is caused by the Taftani infiltration of the refugees.

    So, they're trying to keep their operations in Britain secure for the moment while still setting them up to fail and be reabsorbed later....
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  • Enginseer-42
    replied to Who is John Courage?
    This is the same organization that backed both sides of WW2 to experiment on which societal model panned out better.

    You're presuming they have any sense of loyalty to the nation's they control....
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