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  • Okay guys, I prefer to be frank with you, I think the new Compacts and Conspiracies have now become kind of a mess. There are too many retooling in too many different directions: some want to keep the Cold Guard, others want the Peasant Guard, some want tor reimaging the Cold Guard as a different group. Then we have that third lighter Conspiracy nobody seems to have a clear idea for, and the former Crown Jewels who have been converted into a compact... #Ammit, Character Risk Analysis and the Magisters are still mostly stable, but everything else is getting messy.

    So I think we need...
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  • Be my guest.
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  • I admit I actually kinda like this version of the Endowment. By far one of the most concrete Endowment we have so far.
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    Last edited by Darinas; 08-13-2017, 08:12 AM.

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  • I am not suggesting making them Sworn or having the Nobles give them their powers, I am suggesting tying their origin to things from Princess lore. Regardless of the point, their Endowment has to come from somewhere, and we aready made the multiple options origin for the People's Guard so just doing the same would feel 1) Redundant and 2) Like we lack imagination. I thought having them channel the Light in a way different than Noble could be a cool idea. And again, making them the servants might be too close to the People's Guard. I'd rather them be something unique.



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  • Well, let me see....

    Playing up the religious angle could work, but I also feel like the Endowment needs to be developped. Ideally, I would like it to have ties to Nobles and the Dreamlands; this supplement is meant to be about how Hunters interact with these after all. Maybe do something with the whole merging with Dreamlanders thing, for example? Or have them find vestiges of the Kingdom and discover ancient documents explaining how to channel the Light through benedictions-like powers for mortals? Also, maybe having their founder be a Beacon?
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  • Oooooh, right, him. Actually I did watch Fight Club, it's just one of these movies which I remember in itself yet I can never remember the characters' names.
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  • .... I have no idea who Tyler Durden is.
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  • ... Mixed feelings. There is potential here, but the source of their Endowment still is a bit unclear, and the motivation behind them and how they were founded still is a bit TOO close to the People's Guard for me. I mean seriously, they are basically just like the People's Guard, but not extremist in that area. They need more of an identity of their own.

    Sorry if that sounds harsh, King Raven. I appreciate the efforts you put into it.
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  • Also just realize something: How the heck didn't we think about making a japanese Compact of Conspiracy? I mean, this is a magical girl-related book, that should be a given.
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  • ... You didn't read the part about us wanting a more white and grey conspiracy, did you?
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  • No, it didn't change (for Dreamlanders at least, didn't check for Astral Entities), which is why I was confused on that part. So if I get your explanation correct, people merged with Dreamlanders using this manifestation won't change physically nor gain actual physical enhancemens, but they will get super-intelligence ?
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  • On a note, since we are mentioning Harmonious Merge, I would like to ask King Raven: Do the rules for Claim regarding the merging of the attributes and skills apply? The book doesn't say...
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  • Good^^ no we just need to chose where to put it.
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  • Soooo just would like a clarification for Huntsmen: how do you give them Dread Powers? Are they bought with Willpower? Do they have a specific number to pick like with Numen for Ephemeral beings? Or do they just have all the Dread Powers at the same time? It's not specified here.
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  • ... actually that's not a bad idea. Kinda like a Dreamlander version of Les Mystères?
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  • Even if your points are valid, my other arguments still stand: we already have three Compacts, we don't need to reduce the number of Conspiracies to get a fourth one. And if you remove the Crown Jewels from the equation, then the only two Conspiracies left are a Corporate assholes who kidnap Princesses for more powers and bigoted revolutionary-wannabe who hunt Nobles because they refuse to accept not all of them are like the Queen of Tears (not saying the People's Guard are bad as a concept, I just find it difficult, or even impossible in my personal tastes, to have any sympathy for them). I feel...
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  • That could work I guess, but how would we communicate that exactly?

    Also, I hate to repeat myself, but since King Raven started adding it to the doc, I have to say it again: I am REALLY not sold on the whole Free Company thing. Aside from me not liking the very military-like name, I still don't think they should be a Compact. Compacts aren't supposed to have access to a supernatural Endowment (and don't try to bring up the Promethean Brotherhood's case, the book explicitly states they are on the verge of becoming a Conspiracy; only reason they aren't one is because their "Endowment"...
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    Last edited by Darinas; 08-04-2017, 08:45 AM.

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  • Thank you, Vent. Glad to see at least one person was listening last time I answered that concern.

    Again, for starter, that book wouldn't have a point to exist if hunters were just like "witches?", because then they would treat Princesses no different than mages and you might as well just read Witchfinders.

    Second, I actually did take the effort to explain how hunters know all these informations; they figured Princesses were using their powers instinctively while seeing them in action (true, psychic do too, but there are enough differences between the two that...
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  • Meh. Still mixed feelings. I really don't think they should be a Compact, and again, I liked the old name better. I'll say though, it's well-written and coherent.
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  • True. Which is the reason I am not suggesting we put the old name back.
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