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  • I remembered the Warders, and I wanted to say the Fangs and Lords, but I wasn't certain enough (and didn't have my book on me to verify). That section of the book helped save the new reason for the Howler's fall for me because I thought the idea of the Garou not showing up to help was weird. Especially the Fianna, I know they aren't the most popular tribe on this forums (from being on here it seems like the least) but a lot of the lore (Tribe books, Dark Ages, ect.) really made it seem like the two tribes were close. To have the Fianna not show up seemed out of character (but when you explain...
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  • The back of the book gives a long list of reasons where either they Howlers weren't believed, were too far away (Pure Lands and Australia), culturally aligned with the Romans (Warders of Men), or were having Roman problems of their own and couldn't really spare aide (Fianna)....
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  • CeltSPZ
    replied to Changing the tribe
    Another time losing gifts have been mentioned was in "Cleansing Flame of Helios" from Rage Across the Heavens, where any BSD hit by the gift has to make a stamina roll (or die) then a gnosis roll (or lose all taint, and wyrm related gifts and rites).
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  • CeltSPZ
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    I can understand, and respect this but in my 20 years of gaming, I've never met players who wanted to play along those lines, and would quit rather then play along. To sway players it too work socially rping with them instead of rolling dice. Mind you I had a Setite villain who my players did say "I wish I could hate this guy!". It just took a LOT of work. If I simply rolled Charisma+Expression and rolled well...I would have lost them entirely....
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  • CeltSPZ
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    This reminds me of when my friend wanted to run an epic level Forgotten Realms campaign. I chose a Paladin and with enough stuff and boosts and what not got a 32 charisma. The first thing that happened was I had players scream "IF HE STARTS ROLLING TO MAKE ME DO THINGS I QUIT" (...i just wanted to smite well....)

    this leads me to what I've always ruled is that you can't force players to react to social dice unless gifts/disciplines/ect. are involved. I have never met a player who wants to be told "no, you in fact still like that guy". It never makes for fun...
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  • Toss in the Mokole used to breed with other breeds in order to bring their mnesis lines into the Mokole's offspring (if the line would eventually one day produce a Mokole).
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