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  • Saipjas
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    My point with the Earth parallel is that these are stories about humans (Exalted though the may be). Thus I find it sufficient to be able to draw on historical anthologies to explain how DB society can reconcile these seemly contradictions within their societal structure. Here is a different way to frame it outside of procreation, if Dynasts distrusted sorcery to the extent you assert, then there would be significant social pressure to never commission sorcerous workings. Crops enhanced via sorcerous workings or animals bred/enhanced via sorcery should also be distrusted. None of that is true,...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    No, it just means they don’t get a full charge and have to play the odds, though my reading of it is that they start bearing children at age 18, not that the interval is less, just the start date is roughly 5-10 years further along than in the Realm, and they don’t give a rats ass if you are with a noble or an outcaste (from my reading).

    As to sorcery, we will have to agree to disagree about the implications of the distrust of sorcerers, I find there are sufficent historical examples similar enough here in Earth to be absolutely ok with a similar phenomenon related to how sorcery...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    The answer is because their products are too damn useful not to, Dragonblooded are pragmatic like that. Why have an entire school dedicated to the training of new sorcerers if it is that distrusted as you suggest? As for lookshy the 3e iteration makes no mention of children in mass, furthermore Lookshy welcomes literally all outcaste DBs into its ranks, allowing new blood to continually flow into it....
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  • Saipjas
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    @Epimethus I see no reason why progenitive essence makes lookshy not work, might need to unpack your reasoning behind that one. The point of marriage and exaltation is covered, while not in the merit itself the manuscript does say that children from parents of strong bloodlines have a 4/5 chance of exaltation versus parents of average bloodlines having a 1/2 chance for their children to exalt. The stigma against sorcerers is because sorcery removes you in many ways from society. Sorcerers are distrusted because of that removal versus the results of said sorcery. People are distrustful of the...
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  • Saipjas
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    Epimetheus I am not a dev nor can I speak for them, but I disagree with you on this count. Progenitive essence finally puts a stake in the damn stupid notion of “Dragonblooded breeding camps” that permeated a lot of 2e discussions. Furthermore, the new breeding merit from what I can tell is to prevent mechanical must haves (in the optimization and incentive sense) such as the previous incarnation. Finally, if Dragonblooded society IS being pragmatic, and there is no discernible difference in the metaphysical nature of a child born of sorcery from one not, then why the heck wouldn’t they...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    Actually I just realized something Lion Hamster have you read the manuscript for WFHW? If not this may be an issue where you are coming from this with incomplete knowledge since there is an entire entry covering sexuality and marriage and particular how Same sex marraiges are handled and how they are formed. While I doubt that a same sex arranged marriage happens often, I could see it if for instance both Houses have two homosexual children of matching gender, but pair them up with the understanding that they will find a way to produce a child.

    Edit: turning to sorcery for childbirth...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    Lion Hamster you are forgetting a few key points here. 1) Marraiges in Dynastic Society are about alliances first and foremost. 2) Neomah and other methods do exist for homosexual couples to have children from the marriage. 3) A Dragonblood CAN have sufficent agency to buck family arrangements, provided that during their Grand Tour they have done something of note to give them the cache within the House to do so. 4) Homosexuality has zero stigma in DB society provided the couple avails themselves to point 2.
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Tell me about Half-Caste characters
    Not to necro the thread much further, but Wyldwraith what you may have missed from what I and others in the thread said was that 3E when it has not spoken in a thing is drawing upon 1E roots. In fact, we are not saying throw 1E out except where 3E has said something new on the matter. I think you don’t seem to realize how huge of a gulf there in fact is between 1E and 2E and why we are emphasizing the break. A perfect example of this is an old elemental favorite of mine, the Mercury Ant. Mercury Ants in 1E (Games of Divinity) where communal builders who had some neat tricks about shaping...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Running preludes
    I am gearing up to run a set of preludes for my Hearth of Dynastic scions. All the characters are just graduated from secondary and will be starting their Grand Tour soon, so the prelude will be focused on their graduation and coming out party for their house.

    Typically what I like to use preludes for is to help ease the player into their character’s mindset, as well as plant story points that will come up in like 20-30 sessions. I also don’t do them for 2-3 hours, instead almost all the background stuff has been worked on for the past 2-4 months for my players, so they have...
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  • Saipjas
    replied to My Judge's Ears Are Burning... (Ex3)
    In the context AnubisXy is using it yes. What he’s trying to do is create an objective measure to simulate the argument/adjudication of a player trying to skirt the edges of JET. The entire point is a method of resolution for people seeking to skirt/bypass JET in the first place....
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  • Saipjas
    replied to My Judge's Ears Are Burning... (Ex3)
    A word of caution on half-truths such as what Oz suggests, these can come down to Storyteller adjudication on the particulars of the context being used. To take his slave example, if the client state in question were not dejure slaves and were instead only defacto slaves, or they were simply “slaves” in the way Marxian doctrine views the prolitariate prior to revolution, then the ST could reasonably rule those outright falsehoods. As always, where there ar grey areas best check with/know how your ST views these kinds of things to avoid contentious conflicts between player and ST.
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  • Morty it is the confirmed subtitle.
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  • Saipjas
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Robert Vance or Eric Minton, for Ephemeral Induction Technique is the spirit created from it formed with a fully matured personality? I know it’s trying to evoke mythology such as Athena’s birth, but my question is whether my solar twilight is birthing fulling matures brings or kids, both have significant differences for our narrative.

    Thanks for your time and love what you guys have been doing with this edition!
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