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[Imthestein]

I just checked and you're right. So maybe we'll see Banu Haqim with Obfuscate and Quietus. As for Malkavians, I've been assuming they'll give them Auspex and Dominate using the Dementation powers much like you're suggesting. But I think with Malkavians they'll be looking to add something else to the gameplay as well. I feel like every Clan added will be adding something specific to the game beyond just Disciplines. Gangrel are looking to be added with Werewolves and shapeshifting powers for example (assuming that is what is happening with Season of the Wolf)

[Imthestein]

I would presume so. I got the sense from the write-up they were trying to not be JUST Egyptian but to allow for diversity of interpretations of Set

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It should be noted that of all the Clans the Brujah are the only ones with a purely physical power set, so they'll still be unique in that regard.

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Banu Haqim is possible, but in that case you have them using Blood Sorcery which then doubles up with the Tremere signature power. Either way I think we're likely to see some sort of doubling up of powers unfortunately and the Brujah are the most likely to see their powers copied given Celerity is used by Toreador as well. There are only so many Disciplines, especially in V5.

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There's been an argument made that next week might be Lasombra. Given they hinted in the Ventrue stream that not all of the Clans at release will be Clans from BL1 I think this makes Lasombra likely. I love Nosferatu, but Nosferatu was admittedly considered hard mode in BL1. Plus, with them adding Clans as free DLCs I think we'll see Nosferatu added to include things like Sewers as well as stealth gameplay.

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I believe they said it replenished slower outside of crowds, not that you had less....

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I wasn't sure how I felt about it at first, but then as I looked at it I realized it was kind of a mix of two serpents intertwined making up an eye which reminds me of the eye of horus

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Just got an answer on the Discord channel and it seems it is the new Clan symbol.

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When the new V5 books were coming out I was curious if any of the Clan Symbols had been updated. I noticed they never showed the Setite Ministry one but when the recent update to the book happened I decided to take another look and now there's a symbol that wasn't there before. Is this the new Setite Clan Symbol? Can anyone confirm?

Note: For some reason I can't upload the image here so unfortunately people will have to look for themselves. It's on the second picture with the woman folding her arms in the Setite Ministry section.

[Imthestein]

The only reason I'm ok with Lure of Flames is because of things like Dracula movies with candles suddenly igniting and Queen of the Damned (quality of the movie aside) causing others to combust on the spot. To me, if you see something in media or lore then I'm open to it existing as a power in however way it needs to be balanced.

But yeah, I definitely agree about Blood Magic

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While I prefer the idea of making path powers people want into rituals I've been also thinking that lure of Flames was more difficult than most. I've come to a compromise that I think I would use in my games that still uses a ritual.

Just have a ritual that gives targeted blood path powers a fire component, so Blood Boil would become an engulfing flame for instance. Then add a trick you can ignite your own blood which is how you could do things like ignite candles without a match and keeping that quality that speaks to vampire lore/media. Make the ritual last the night and there you...

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They do, but the severity of it is based on your Blood Purity which goes up the older you are. So a young Nosferatu isn't really going to have as much of a problem with it as an Elder will. This seems perfectly reasonable to me and I hope they do something similar with the Hecata...

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I've been playing since the 90s and I always knew Obfuscate to not work on technology, that's why the Revised Clanbook had that merit added. But we've also seen sections written on Nosferatu using makeup, heavy clothes, and alternate routes to account for this drawback. Obfuscate will still work on an observer even through technology if they are watching a live feed, it's just if someone was to go back and watch a recording of that footage and the Nosferatu wasn't covering themselves up then someone would see what they were. But if we're talking about security footage that generally only gets...

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I don't see it as all bets being off. Thin-bloods likely join a clan like they do in V5 even if their powers are different. As for Thaumaturgy, V5 even says the Tremere call Blood Sorcery Thaumaturgy instead.

That being said, I'm far from believing this will be a one to one translation from V5. At the end of the day this is a videogame and they have to change things to accommodate that. All I'm saying is that they said they are using V5 as the base so we need to keep that in mind...

[Imthestein]

I agree, except that it sounds like they might wait on Malkavians so they can assure they do mental illness justice. Also, they said they are basing this on V5 which means no Dementation. But I do think when they do Malkavians they will do Auspex and Dominate and focus on those powers relating to Dementation....

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I get the feeling that even if some Clans have overlap of Disciplines, which they are bound to eventually, that they will still focus on different powers from those Disciplines for each Clan. It's just keeping it down to two Disciplines makes it easier to limit the overlap as much as possible. At least that's my take.