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[Imthestein]

I didn't know about the African Technocracy. That should be really cool especially with the rise of Afrofuturism in Science Fiction literature.

[Imthestein]

Iteration X wants to help people evolve through technology and are basically Transhumanists. The "turning people into machine parts" is really more of a Tradition propaganda stance. Which, let's be honest, the worst descriptions of the Technocracy are USUALLY (not always) Tradition propaganda because they're usually set up as the protagonists and the Technocracy as the antagonists. Even the Revised book portrayed them as antagonists despite books like Vampire Revised including the other Clans in their book as potential PCs.

Can the Technocracy be the antagonists, of course,...

[Imthestein]

Yeah, 100% this for me. I think too many people conveniently ignore how much social progress has taken place under the Technocracy, but as you note there's also the concers of the worst forms of Capitalism. I think the dark Cyberpunk future is a good expression of how bad things could get under the Technocracy but it shouldn't be conveyed as Fascist.

It's one of the things I appreciated from the Revised Convention books was acknowledging the faults while showing how they try to do good at the same time. The Feminist progress within the NWO is a great example to me as it shows more...

[Imthestein]

Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan of Navalon when it was first introduced in the Guide to the Technocracy. In real life my background is Physics and I work in the Semiconductor Industry and I'm tired of anything science and technology related having to have a mystic bent just to be deemed good. I think Phil is great when he writes mystic oriented groups but, honestly, I don't have much faith in him to represent scientific and technological groups well given his past work....

[Imthestein]

Yeah, That's actually what I'm hoping for. But the comment of "They're not the REAL good guys" took me as a detraction from that. Too often we get the Traditions being "the good guys" and that's all I'm saying I want to move away from. Saying the Technocracy are fascists is, to me, saying they are the bad guys. If we get a more grey area where no one is the good or bad guys then I'm actually happier with that....

[Imthestein]

I'll admit, I'm concerned. I love the Technocracy and I thought the Revised Convention Books were the best material we've seen to date regarding the Technocracy. But Phil wrote on a Facebook post a few months back that he didn't want to write it as them being "The REAL good guys" and that no matter how well meaning they will ultimately still be fascists. I'm hoping we at least see some good Iteration X material given they are my favorites and their Convention Book pales in comparison. I want to be excited but we'll see.

[Imthestein]

I asked recently if not seeing Technocracy Reloaded on the schedule meant it was done and they confirmed this to be the case. Artwork has been submitted for the upcoming Kickstarter but no confirmation on when that is happening

[Imthestein]

As far as I'm concerned the Horizon: Stronghold of Hope book is the only glimpse we need of Archspheres. They represent the epic levels those spheres can be used much like Elder Disciplines were originally supposed to be treated (until they got more codified and those examples were treated as strict levels). Personally, I'm more interested in seeing if there's some different perspective the Technocracy or Nephandi have of other spheres as that's at least paradigm based with limited mechanical differences.