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  • Yes, they are really scummy ones. I actually think Nash is one of the better NPCs for fitting into that classic 1st Edition, "Charismatic, Charming, but awful" mold.



    OOoo, definitely a great idea for a post.

    How I integrated Let the Streets Run Red's Chronicles

    There's a loose plot going through the books anyway roughly related to Kevin Jackson and Maxwell, I think that's possible to hide on. If I were to try to wrap it all together then here is how I would do it with Maxwell as the Big Bad.

    Note: Some of my changes do...
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  • Question: Are you Romani?

    If not, probably not your place to judge.
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  • A friendly reminder, it's probably best to start a new thread when one is over three years old. No problem, just a forum policy....
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Esotericism in Scion
    Allow me to establish a policy here that has probably been needed for awhile: this is not a forum for talking about the great cultural rifts of our time. It is a place to discuss games where you're the children of gods both historical and fictional beating the crap out of Titans with magical kung fu. With that in mind, this is the very definition of picking a fight and insulting your fellow posters. There is no great censorship fight to be had here and the attitude here is not only unwelcome but it is a terrible one to be had. Leave the thread and if you attack your fellow posters again, you will...
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  • I'm kind of hoping that people have something to talk about other than how much they hate Oblivion. Maybe the 20+ awesome cults in the book.

    But I admit, if you want to bash a book, maybe the best place isn't the company's website.

    Just Sayin....
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  • The Dying Fields

    1. I am considering doing a "Where I Read" of this book but I think I should maybe delay that for a few months until everyone has had a chance to read it.

    2. As stated by Matthew Dawkins, this is an homage to Children of the Corn, the Wicker Man, and other, "Rural Horror" stories where you drive up to some isolated place and discover some sinister cult or hillbilly horror. It's as old as, at least The Shadow over Innsmouth and I note was the subject of the exceptionally good Resident Evil 4 even if that game didn't have Claire Redfield...
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  • I think I got it fixed. Sorry I had to delete them.
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    I think everyone has said everything they have to say on the location of the Abyss. We should move on now.
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  • * Thoth, Serpent of Light Sabbat Bishop

    He was a Path of Cain follower who had no regard for the lives of human beings. They were effectively animals to him. He was also of the mind that vampire life was very precious and disgusted by the casual way that Sabbat treated it. He was notable for believing Set and Caine were from the same legend with both being a mistranslation of the same being. He was continually frustrated with the fact that the Sabbat was increasingly just a bunch of poseurs with little interest in the philosophical underpinnings of the sect versus diablerie.
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    Yes, except for the fact the Abyss is inhabited by the Neverborn who do and contact with the Abyss will turn Wraiths into purely evil insane nihilistic psychopaths.

    One thing that Wraith is clear about is that Oblivion isn't a neutral force but horrifically malevolent....
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    The Abyss is described as where the Wyrm is at the bottom of things, imprisoned by the Weaver. Malpheas is not the Wyrm's prison.

    As for Demon: The Fallen, it is MUCH closer to "proper" vampire mythology than Mage or Werewolf....
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  • You were asked to leave this thread and continued posting. I am banning you for one week. Please come back when you're done.

    Or don't.

    Guys, this thread has not been very productive. As much as I love Cults of the Blood Gods and appreciate Matthew Dawkins showing up, I think we need to either shut this down or really overhaul it.

    So, any further issues and this will be locked.
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Esotericism in Scion
    I thought I was clarifying....
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  • Yeah, I think this is a rather incorrect reading of the text given it is a deity unrelated to Judaism.

    It's also BIZARRE as a complaint given that there's a Church of Caine (which IS related to Abrahamic religion) a few pages over. Indeed, the entire concept of vampire is a dark interpretation of Abrahamic religion.

    Please leave the thread and don't accuse the developers of antisemitism again.
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  • CTPhipps
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    Please report this and we'll shut it down. Its against forum rules. Don't fight the battle of the moderators for them....
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    I disagree.

    But this argument came up in my discussion of the Dreaming when I was a huge Changeling fan. Basically, the Dreamining is INFINITE and contains EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE, which from a gaming perspective means it contains nothing. There's not much point in developing infinity and I feel like it makes the Spirit World far less useful for "adventuring" in. Mind you, I did love Planescape as a teen and adding to well-established locals was something that I felt worked better than just saying, "An infinite number of planes."

    YMMV....
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Esotericism in Scion
    This is something that has come up repeatedly in multiple threads but there's a massive amount of thread drift on the subject repeatedly. Basically, someone starts a discussion on a Scion subject then it drifts to incorporating cultural material from other culture, makes a sweeping generalization about said material, starts talking about past cultural tragedies, another acts dismissive, and then talk past one another and none of it has anything to do with the subject.

    It's always the same people.

    So anyone who actually starts lecturing on the subject outside of Scion
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    Probably because I prefer a deeply detailed and rich few number of dimensions versus a large number of very shallow dimensions. The Abyss being its pure Lasombra thing is uninteresting because there's nothing to it other than "spooky dark place." It being the home of Wraiths and the Demons is something that makes it far more interesting, IMHO, as well as opens up a lot more Storytelling opportunities.



    I can't think of anything honestly more terrifying than drawing power from the center of Hell that drove all the Elohim utterly insane with how horrible it was...
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    Re: Oblivion and Abyssal Mysticism

    Given that I've always supported the combination of the Abyss, the Underworld, and Demon the Fallen....no.

    The Abyss is where demons are imprisoned.

    The Abyss is at the bottom of the Underworld.

    The Lasombra contact demons through the Abyss.

    The Neverborn/Demons are the same thing.

    Oblivion is a force of destruction as anyone who knows anything about Wraith will tell you. It's not nothing, it's a force that CAUSES nothingness. It is the ultimate in Entropy as people wouldn't become...
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    If you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread, please leave. Criticism is fine. Bashing is not. ...
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