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  • CTPhipps
    replied to These new Lasombras
    No, that was what they did for the Second Inquisition.

    That resulted in the Anarchs going from a nuisance to an international sect.

    Except with THREE Clans this time....
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  • CTPhipps
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    Mind you, I think the Path of Night is as far from the Road of Night as Christianity vs. the Church of Cthulhu.



    My argument there is...

    In what universe has anyone ever trusted the Lasombra?

    And what idiot would?

    The ones who say "bros before hos" are always the ones who throw you under the bus first.



    We all knew the only reason they were in the Sabbat was because they were in charge of it. When they were losing control and they saw a chance to take the Camarilla, you knew they were going to...
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  • Basically, I'm all about Paths and Humanity being two sides of the same coin. Whatever keeps you from the Beast.

    Loresheets could include ways of rerolling lost humanity and friendships among fellow devotees I think...
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  • CTPhipps
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    Beckett's Jyhad Diary...
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  • Eh, Humanity allows you to follow Paths without another system now.

    This would just preserve their lore role....
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  • [V5] I think Paths and Roads should be Loresheets now

    I think that'd be a good way to bring them into 5E.

    It's still Humanity.

    But the Loresheet dictates your Ambition and it's 5 levels of "gifts" related to the ideology you follow.

    What do you guys think?
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  • CTPhipps
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    I explained my opinion on a Facebook Group that part of the issue some people have is you have to take the fact V5 is building on itself. A lot of people hate certain changes (Gehenna Crusade, the Second Inquisition, and so on) so they try to separate it all from each other when all of these things are being built upon.

    The Lasombra are joining the Camarilla because:

    The Camarilla is weak and ripe for the plucking

    1. The Tremere have lost their Inner Council
    2. The Inner Circle of the Camarilla has lost at least 4 members (Tremere, Gangrel, Brujah,...
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  • CTPhipps
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    I think Vicissitude will become an Amalgam Discipline of Protean and Blood Sorcery.

    The Tzimisce will have the Disciplines of Animalism, Blood Sorcery, and Protean....
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  • CTPhipps
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    To each their own....
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  • CTPhipps
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    I assume it's more practically, "A Cardinal has a lot to lose defecting. So the Lasombra aren't even trying to recruit them."
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Tzimisce and Giovanni in V5
    If you call being in a very good position to take over the Camarilla in 50 years and running scared from their Antediluvian, then yes.



    I think the Giovanni are merging with the Samedi and Cappadochians since they had their leadership wiped out by the Second Inquisition. I fully expect Augustus to have been diablerized by Lazarus....
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  • CTPhipps
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    So, we're getting SOME of the reasons the Lasombra defected (well, half of them) to the Camarilla. Please share your thoughts on this. Personally, I think people offended the Lasombra would BETRAY someone are missing the Clan's hat. That's like wondering why the Tremere would do magic or the Malkavians would screw things up.

    http://theonyxpath.com/lasombra-chicago-by-night/
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  • CTPhipps
    replied to Why i like V5
    Depends on which clan you're doing. The game is good for making sure you have reasons to join every faction and reasons not to join with them.

    * Strauss is a straight shooter unless you are a Tremere and he laughs off Heather getting killed. He's establishment but seems to be less of a dick than La Croix and the Malkavian picks up he'll be Prince when La Croix is down (which is wrong since Vannevar Thomas takes the throne but I don't think Strauss really wants it).

    * Nines saves your life...TWICE. So, even if you think the Anarchs are RIDICULOUS, you might be inclined...
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  • CTPhipps
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    Eh, he doesn't seem to care what the PC chooses.

    Anarch, La Croix, Kuei-Jin.

    Even if it destroys them.

    He just talks it out with them. They're neck deep in it even if he's just a passive observer beyond driving around the PC as a cab driver.

    One thing to note is prior to revised, the Anarch movement was based in California.

    It was the only territory they held.

    So while the Anarch movement was international, it was headquartered in America (albeit led by a Scotsman and a Spaniard)...
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  • CTPhipps
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    I like that Caine ignores the Jyhad.

    But doesn't matter either way....
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  • CTPhipps
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    I actually strongly disagree and cite the definitive answers as its chief advantage over Requiem.

    It's just you can interpret these facts the same way you can in real life....
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  • CTPhipps
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    I am a huge Anarch fan and I think the trick to understanding them is it works better to think of them as less a single faction and more like "The Resistance." It is multiple competing groups, some actively hostile to one another, all together against a group of oppressors. The Camarilla is the Galactic Empire to them and they're an alliance of groups that want to kill them: communists, anarchists, democrats, and people who just don't like the Princes.

    I think a lot of how well you think of the Anarchs depends on how you think the Camarilla treats its people and I go with,...
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  • CTPhipps
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    Smiling Jack is pretty much a vampire Wolverine so I imagine his response to being accused of terrorism would be the same as Logan's.

    "Terrorist is what the big army calls the little army."

    Certainly, Smiling Jack knows the only people he killed were a prick Prince and possibly his flunky PC.

    Blowing up something doesn't tick what little remains of his humanity.

    Certainly, the Anarchs are guerillas and revolutionaries practicing asymetrical warfare. The big difference is they're no longer trying to live peacefully with the Camarill...
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  • CTPhipps
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    I find a huge ton of the game makes a great deal more sense when you insert a line like the ones in TIME OF THIN BLOOD:

    "A mysterious group of technologically powerful mages has been assisting the government."

    But, honestly, it could very much be something like this:

    "The SAD raided a ratty building with a surprisingly advanced computer set up while investigating some murders. They sent the computer to the NSA and they checked its files which included links to a weird site called Schrek.net."

    There, done.

    Obviously,...
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  • CTPhipps
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    One element that I appreciate is the Second Inquisition is described in detail in the Camarilla book as well as exactly how the Camarilla screwed the pooch.

    Basically, they assumed mortals were too stupid that if the Cammies used the government against the Sabbat and Anarchs that...OHHHhhh, they'd figure out vampires were real.

    And the one thing the Camarilla has an infinite amount of is is arrogance.
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