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  • I really can't figure how Lashing Out works. I can't understand when it would be used or required.

    Could make me some examples of social situations where two vampires Lash out? Even using different aspects of the Beast?

    Should I use Lashing Out when a characters is intimidating another character?
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  • The youngest 4th gen Ventrue is not Mithras, but Alexander, who was embraced in the 8th century before Christ. Even Eigermann and Antiorix must be younger than Mithras given that Antiorix was a Gaul....
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  • Undead rabbit
    started a topic 8 again and 9 again roll

    8 again and 9 again roll

    Does the rule works only on the first roll or does It work until you have no more success left?
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  • ehm... Voormas plan had just two steps: find the Trident of Shiva and then link it to the corrupted nodes in the realm of Entropy to start a ritual spell.

    It wasn't really that elaborated....
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  • So what?

    Can Bane be killed in Dungeon's and Dragons? Or Asmodeus? Can you touch the Lady of Pain? or outsmart Lofwyr in Shadowrun. or beat Chtuluh in CoT? Can you drop the bomb on the Maeljin Incarna and kill them forever?


    I really do not understand what's the point.

    Antes are not npc the player should interact with, and they are not human anymore. Complaining that the Antes can't be killed doesn't have more sense than complaining that Zeus can't be killed.

    They are two steps removed from a Biblical figure that is two step removed from...
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  • Ehm...because their children have INT 6-9 and their plots make empires rise and fall? And they are...well...more than 3 times older than Helena?

    The smartest and most intelligent human being in existance has INT 5, and ante can have 5 dot more than that.

    So if Helena can plot and push the Incas and the Aztecs to collpase, if Menele can push the Maya civilization, if Gratiano can force the Roman Empire to adopt Christianity as its religion, if Mithras and Alexander can manipulate the 100 year war, then what can a vampire three times older and far more powerful accompl...
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  • And how it would be more underpant gnome than Voormas killing death?

    They are blood gods of untold power, and they came from a time before a time where god-killing was pretty much usual, even from a cultural perspective (Osiris killed by Set, Lucifer challenging god, Saturn usurping Uranus, and Zeus usurping Saturn, God killing is really not a strange topos). In the world of darkness gods rise and die quite often, even Celestines can die after all, not to mention Incarnas.





    Ehhm...Tzimisce Diablerie failed since...1992 1edition Children of the...
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  • Senex would disagree. As of Euthanatos revised and Ascension Senex came to the conclusion that entropy Is devouring and corrupting the world.

    Now, for him entropy doesn't have an agenda, sure, but the unbalance Is clear to him. Ence the mega-ritual he was preparing before the feud with the House of Helekar surged to divine proportions.

    A ritual that on many way resemble a werewolf rite in One of the books, that would require the sacrifice of every werewolf to purify the wyrm....
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  • Nothing, I just opened the wrong thread. ...
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  • Wrong thread
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  • Even more all of those old RPGs are pretty much proto-open world with non linear development : Baldur's Gate, Planescape, Fallout, Kotor, Gothic.and so on.

    If you want to take comparison for Bloodlines you must look at Deux Ex, since that's the paragon of that school of RPGs.
    And 25-30 hours is pretty much in line with the RPG Deus Ex like.


    The more branches the main story has , the less you can develop the game in lenght: that's why Heavy Rain or Detroit Become Human, who have big branching stories, takes about 15 hours to get the ending. Same for some RPG...
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  • 25-30 hours it's pretty much standard for non open-world RPG, especially if they have strong branching paths.

    https://howlongtobeat.com/


    Bloodlines 1 was 28 hours
    Human Revolution takes 29
    Deus Ex 1 takes 28
    The Witcher 2 takes 33
    Tyranny takes 32
    Tides of Numenera 32


    So it's really not a deviaton from the standard....
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  • Indeed Primium is good, but is VERY costly too.

    It doesn't come free, it must be bought after you bought the cyberware.

    4 background points buys 2 dice of countermagic.
    6 background points buys 3
    8 background points buys 4
    10 background points buys 5

    Let's say you buy an implanted plasma cannon and just 2 dot of countermagic

    it's 13 dot worth of background.
    Which is a LOT.


    Or let's keep it to a bare minimumOnline access + 2 dice of countermagic

    it's still 6 background points.
    ...
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  • Well I'm sorry but the rules are pretty clear. It's common knowledge that Technomagic has more substantial need of tools.




    Page 320, M20

    Mystic mages begin to realize that magick comes from
    internal excellence, not from external focus
    . Beginning
    at Arete 3, a mystic mage can begin to discard the
    instruments she uses to focus her magickal style.
    Although she doesn’t have to stop using her tools, she
    can discard one instrument per dot in Arete over the
    second: one instrument at Arete 3, two at Arete 4, three...
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  • Undead rabbit
    replied to Paths In 5th Edition?
    Ah you mean like Helena and Critias in Chicago (as for V5).

    Becuase until some time ago Boukephos (4th gen) was in Philadelphia, Menele and Helena (4th) were in Chicago, together with Rebekah, Critias and Eletria (5th), Sybil (4th) was in Washington, the giant in Vancouver (4th), Mithras (4th )in London, Tiamat (4th) and Gotsdam (5th) at Edinburgh, Melitta (5th), Nefertiti (4th) and Erik Eigermann (4th) in Berlin, the Inconnu (various 4th and 5th) in Romania, Montano (4th) was in Sicily, Enkidu (4th) in Prague, Odin (4th) in Scandinavia, Rufus (4th) was in Andorra,Tubalcain (4th)...
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  • Undead rabbit
    replied to The Baba Yaga thread
    Dur An Ki comes from Babylonian sorcery and Persian occultism, which have nothing to do with old shamanic faith of Baba. Baba Yaga was embraced 3000 years before the rise of the Babylonian society, and she was already a Methuselah when Uruk, the first sumer city, was but a village.
    Even more, she was a powerful magician already before her embrace. Given her kind of magic her magical heritage as a human mage should be the Old Faith or som form of Spirit-Talker (like from the Siberian shaman), which have nothing to do with the middle eastern traditions like the Taftani, the Bathini, the Euthanatos...
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  • Undead rabbit
    replied to The Baba Yaga thread
    Best source of inspirations for Baba's magic would be either Sielanic Thamuturgy, Ogham or Old Skool Sorcery.
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  • Undead rabbit
    replied to The Baba Yaga thread
    Vasilissa age must be taken with a grain of salt. Most sources says that the antediluvian are much more recent than 14000 years. Most source put the 3d gen embrace somewhere between 12k and 10k years ago. The guide to the black hand ages most of the First City architecture to 9000 b.c, while the Black Palace was built around 6000 bc. In V5 Beckett puts the foundation of the 13 clans between 10000 bc and 6000 bc....
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  • Undead rabbit
    replied to The Baba Yaga thread
    Yeah, the scenario while not confirmed Is somewhat hunter.
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  • Flagged for racism....
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