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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Ghoul questions
    However, revenants can learn disciplines, but they cannot learn devotions. So, that could mean ghouls probably can't learn devotions....
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  • I think the Spilled Blood book will include 2e bloodlines in it....
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to A Sphere of Light
    Ah, right. I mostly know requiem lore, so I don't often think about the lower depths (vampire for the most part not supporting/leading to that kind of play)....
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to A Sphere of Light
    Actually, I believe there is one. There is a lower depth that the Strix can go to when they are at ten shadow potency, and other younger strix will be able to leave said realm....
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to A Sphere of Light
    I know the Underworld has a few heaven realms, and it used to have a Valhalla.

    Far as I'm aware vampires don't actually get a happy ending, so I imagine that such a place could potentially burn them to ashes.

    I think the closest thing to a heaven realm other than Underworld realms would be the Supernal Realm from mage the awakening, specifically the Aether.
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  • As far as I'm aware, you really can't do anything combative with Auspex. And from what I understand, the best way to deal with the Strix is trap them in a body and burn it to ashes. If the body is destroyed by fire while they are still in it then they are also destroyed....
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  • It was confirmed on one of the pages of the Ask a Simple question thread in the werewolf section of the forums, I believe. I don't remember the exact page, but I'll try to look for it later.



    Yeah, that's a fair point. I just mentioned mages because they are one of the major three splats....
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  • In the Tokyo werewolf write up there is a strix like species known as Tengu, and they are often known to work with werewolves sometimes, and they only claim corpses as far as it is mentioned. However, werewolves are able to bite them and deal lethal quite easily (it was asked and confirmed on the werewolf forum). After that, most mage arcana can find a way to deal with the strix, except maybe Time.

    Strix are also known to corrupt god machine infrastructure if memory serves, so that's an interesting thought.

    Honestly, if memory serves the least able to deal with the...
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  • This looks like a pretty neat series of devotions. There's no toe stepping, and I can think of quite a few things that could be used with Telens to enhance the scene.

    I think I might want to introduce these devotions to my game, to help my players think outside the box when it comes to challenges.
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Idea: Coil of owls.
    I like most of what you did, but vampires are already capable of diablerizing mortals, and they get skill dots from it. It was brought up in 1000 years of night, and I believe there might've been a humanity level prerequisite. So maybe make it so that the humanity level prerequisite need not apply?...
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Vampire vs Mages
    They downgrade all non-supernatural sources. Useful when getting shot, not so useful when a lightning bolt is about to smack you in the face.

    Werewolves are capable of dealing lethal to anything if they bite it. Vampire, strix, mage, mage in shadow form, etc....
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  • Charlaquin I'm confused by the requiem part about getting integrity to ten. Are we speaking about ghouls in this case? If memory serves vampires don't have integrity, only humanity.
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Vampire vs Mages
    I mean, doesn't Time pretty much state the future isn't set in stone, and the future could very well be changing by mere virtue of you having forseen what might come?...
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Vampire vs Mages
    Fair, but my point still stands. That is a lot of arcana, and I don't see why they would go straight to murdering when a joint business seems more profitable....
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Vampire vs Mages
    But why would they think that? I mean, vampires have souls and stuff, and I thought to be counted as person you needed a soul. And while that mage might not consider vampires people, other mages might.

    And isn't the mage pretty much going to do the whole slave thing to? It is a useful method. ...
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  • I believe the Duat counts as a Lower depth, and the Duat comes from Mummy.

    Vampires also get in on the Lower Depth action by being able to use Cruac to summon shadowy entities from a realm that is essentially oblivion to non-vampires (vampires can't enter it), and the strix realm is a lower depth.

    A few other splats can get in on the fun, I just don't remember which ones....
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  • I like it. Did you use the Players bloodline for added funny?...
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  • Ever Professional
    replied to Vampire vs Mages
    That requires a lot of arcana. Like, a lot. I could see a Cabal pulling that off, but I kind of doubt a single mage could. It also raises the question of why. Like, why would these two be fighting? And why would a mage's first response be "I must absolutely murder the hell out of the vampire"?

    On that note, why is the vampire targeting the mage? I mean, sure they could have some issues against each other. But the mage is a mortal, so why would the vampire raise the stakes to murdering said mage? The vampire will probably outlive the mage.

    And if the mage...
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  • For Auras, I'm not entirely sure that Kindred see each other's auras in 2e. I don't really remember that being anywhere under Predatory Aura. I thought they feel what it's like more than see what it looks like.

    Also, the only aura reading I can think of is the Auspex question: "Is this creature a supernatural entity."

    Also, I think Coil of Zirnitra is supposed to be a rare coil. I don't think I'll be letting that much of a game changer being something any Ordo Dracul can just start out with....
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  • I was about to be really confused, then I saw the winky face.

    Also, for groups who tend away from this sort of play, why not introduce an NPC that is like this. Show them what they can easily become, like how you'd introduce a Draugr to a vampire game, or werewolves of each end of Harmony in werewolf.

    EDIT:
    It'd help with a bit of introspective horror, or you can take them to a magic deadzone to show them how much they've changed since the awakening....
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    Last edited by Ever Professional; 09-03-2017, 06:46 PM. Reason: Didn't post my full thought.

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