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  • According to my understanding of the book, they get some measure of magical power (it becomes hell easier to develop appropriate thaumaturgy to the point they get XP for this) but the avatar does die. I'm guessing that thaumaturgy is very much like hermetic hedge magic, but simply using a different power source. Also, someone who knows the secrets of the Corona pillar has a much easier time understanding mental disciplines....
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  • How it can be used to counter Thaumaturgy and was in the other vampire books and suddenly it's gone in V20 Dark ages.
    So, do you think they should have it from the get go? (I'd like other people to pitch in their opinion on this too)



    I was thinking more of an initially strong resistance to attack that gets weaker and eventually breaks into a retreat. Do you think the Tremere would try this?



    Actually, what's your opinion on the interaction of the Tremere Ward ritual and astral travelers. Does it keep them out?
    I think it does, but...
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Mystery/Meta Spheres.
    I'm guessing it would be best to think of these as models of reality with their own quirks and flaws and the 9 spheres system simply as the latest model in the WoD.
    Heck, I'd take the whole Entropy sphere as kind of a flaw in the 9 sphere system and as a sign that people in the WoD consider that the world is fated to die.

    I told a player once that I'd allow them to play a custom sphere if they could design it from Level 1 to 5. It never happened though.
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  • Spacecat
    replied to M20 Dark Ages?
    So... in any case, I would very much like a Dark ages system with more Fellowships and more Foundations and Pillars. Certainly, it'll be harder on the writers, but it'd be more fun for the players too if we could build pillars for all the major groups of the time and maybe some better fits for those before and after that time. I'm not saying a nine sphere system won't work, but whether or not you can see the problem of using the 9 spheres as applied to certain themes (I do), I'll have to say that a unified system of Magic is thoroughly outside of the Theme of Dark Ages Mage. I don't feel it's...
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  • To Warpwind,

    Maybe it's not clear. but we haven't run the 1st part of the Massasa war yet. So far, we've only built roughly what the Hermetics are planning to do.

    I'm still making the Vampire side of things and do need help.

    Currently, Coeris is not meant to be the site of any sort of Tremere last stand. The idea was that they'd removed any important documents from the place some time before the start of the war and have transformed it into some sort of death trap in an attempt to cause casualties among the mages. To properly pull this off, they have to offer...
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Mystery/Meta Spheres.
    I had similar thoughts. I was thinking of Death and Fate spheres before Mage the Awakening, and things like a sphere system with a sphere for air, earth, fire, water, and aether, used by some obscure group of mages. I was also trying to make something for the 5 elements in Chinese philosphy and the 7 chakras but didn't get very far with those. I never did do anything with the ideas.
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  • Cool. Those do seem to fit well.
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Just do it the high-tech way
    But they do represent metaphysical concepts that are quite real in the minds of those who use them and thus are also very real in the Astral Realms. Why cannot we propose that some strange primordial astral entity has been manipulating the minds of mages in an attempt to bring about ascension?...
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  • Actually, that's roughly what plan B is if they find storming the enemy castle too hard or tedious... actually, they'd probably switch to that if they take any losses.




    Well, I'm still having trouble reading all the vampire power stuff in the Tremere Dark Ages book and the V20 Dark ages book. Work is getting in the way and it is taking longer than I'd like....
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Achieving the Impossible?
    A few players wanted to cure a nephandi in a game I ran. This was after the death of many masters and that whole mess that was the avatar storm, so there was little in the way of central Tradition government. Each cabal was free to do as it pleased but had limited support and contact with other cabals. I decided I'd allow them to if they could give me a proper rationale using the Spheres on how they were to accomplish this and somehow follow through with it or (since one of them got the True Faith Merit) if one of them achieved True Faith 4 and fixed the Nephandi Avatar as a miracle. Note that...
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  • Spacecat
    replied to M20 Dark Ages?
    I'm thinking something like

    Power over stone and hard material
    Control and gaining power from Living Things
    Fire & Revelation
    Darkness & Mystery...
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Just do it the high-tech way
    I think you're taking my statement too seriously. I made it because I couldn't understand the previous bunch of posts and decided I wanted to say something too.

    Edit: But, for the sake of arguing a point for fun:

    The complete idea is: "The Technocracy will never truly win in any objective sense because if they did, the game would end, and the mage setting we know would cease to be... and that would be no fun."

    If the Traditions somehow won and eradicated the Technocracy and the Nephandi, we could still have some amount of fun with champions of each...
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    Last edited by Spacecat; 05-02-2017, 05:51 PM.

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  • I suppose, my initial idea doesn't work very well, with too few character to go around that work for mage or are popular enough. So I guess it should be alright to expand this to video games in general and see what comes up. The easier for me to point out, "this guy online", the better.
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  • Once the Hermetics have reached their destination, they attempt to take the castle for themselves.

    One Master of Mind will be scouting around the Tremere base in Astral form, doing what damage can be done by a spellcasting invisible intangible entity.
    His or her 2 Adepts will probably be doing the same. This groups remaining 4 disciples will probably be going around improving the morale of the mundane troops and looking for any signs of Tremere meddling with the minds of anyone in the castle. The 8 Initiates of this group will probably be assigned to aid the troops in castle...
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  • Well, I haven't even started on the Tremere side of things. But I'll get there. Sorry it's taking so long. I had a rather eventful vacation this long weekend... the type you need a vacation to recover from. And please post any suggested tactics you might think of from either side of the conflict....
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Just do it the high-tech way
    I say then that the Technocracy will never truly win... because that won't make for a very fun game....
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  • Spacecat
    replied to Just do it the high-tech way
    I know this might sound like a dumb question but what exactly is being argued as working or not working?
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  • Actually, considering castles weren't super big at the time, they'd probably just bring 300 war ready people to supplement their 116 wizards. I shall call it fort Sæhrímnir.
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  • Spacecat
    replied to batini and iran..
    Imagine entering a plane with every intent to hijack it and the next thing you know, you are alone in a plane that's undergoing maintenance... Imagine trying to make a video about your cause with Arcane 6 or more... Imagine the voice of Achmed,
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  • Spacecat
    replied to M20 Dark Ages?
    I think it would be awesome to have a Mage Dark Ages to Sorcerer's Crusade book with the addition of pillars for all groups and material on how spheres became spheres... then an example of how to make your own Foundations and pillars that incidentally makes pillars and spheres for the remaining modern factions as examples. lol.

    It might be awesome to have something that came before Foundations and Pillars, if anyone could think up what that was.
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