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  • And the G-M seeded itself backward and forward throughout time such that it always exists....
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Rules for Kitsune?
    I need to go back and re-read Skinchangers. There seems like much in there that could be adapted to fill in the blanks between werewolves and full-on other-shifter forms. What WtF doesn't really need is a menagerie of similarly-capable human-animal beings. It needs werewolves and enough animal-themed weirdness to keep them (or induce them to be) honest. Oh... and maybe some contradictory mythology.

    In case it's useful I vomited a series of skintheif merits in a thread on that topic a while back. The point being to illustrate how merit builds can progressively construct comparable...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Diablerising a strix
    Specifically, said grains of salt should be hurled into its eyes and then left on the ground for it to count.

    While you run away as quickly as possible....
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Torpor and vitae
    Ok, ok. Let's assume my assumption is an artifact of VtM, then....
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Origins of Theban Sorcery?
    Utterances ... written down? Did the "angel" show the way to the Nameless Empire bathroom complex and the vamp in question jotted down stall graffiti?

    Regardless, if Theban Sorcery is linked to utterances, then it's been quite watered down by not being channeled through a being powered by the Rite of Return! I... known little about Mummy, but stuff like this is damn terrifying!


    --Khanwulf...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Origins of Theban Sorcery?
    I'm suddenly and inexplicable left wondering if there are other caves decorated with even more primitive forms of "Theban" sorcery out there? Perhaps decorated with handprints and hunting scenes in the mountains of France?

    Oh, what a spelunking Kindred might discover?...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Torpor and vitae
    And you will proceed to lose 1 vitae per day until at zero or you awaken from torpor.

    Unless that is paused during torpor. I don't remember reading anything to that effect, however....
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Torpor and vitae
    The only torpor a vamp awakens from with > 0 vitae is the artificial torpor of staking. If you pull the stake out soon enough the subject will (may) still have vitae left.

    They'll still be pissed off, however.
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  • The parasite actually extends across a range of T-dimensions, such that the scalar energies it creates and physical features facilitated by it are actually folded into such dimensions (an effectively limitless number of them) awaiting "merging" with prime reality under the influence of life-energy generally contained within the medium of blood....
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  • For some reason I'm now picturing a Midwestern university basement club gathering to toss 20-siders, chew sliders and practice their "made up" language "just like Tolkien and Klingon!"

    For some reason the members who are best at the language are the luckiest at dice. Odd.


    --Khanwulf...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to A Requiem version of Chimestry
    Well you could do Ravnos as a bloodline of some group (Gangrel if you're into metaplot) that has Nightmare and Obfuscate, Fortitude and Animalism. Then, give them access to Bloodline-specific Devotions (i.e. prerequisite "Ravnos Bloodline" for purchase) that members call "Chimestry" and make up the powerset you need to portray their illusion powers.

    Some WoD powers of Chimestry can be handled by straight Nightmare. Some by Obfuscate. Almost all the remainder should be doable through some combination of Nightmare+Obfuscate+Fortitude Devotions, where Fortitude acts...
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  • Note that the Longinians reached Rome around 380, if I recall from the other thread. So the takeover was gradual and in many ways followed the fractured canonization of early Christian church materials.

    Given that the core notes for the Testament must have been in place by 70AD, there's a lot of wiggle room for "incomplete" or edited (or original!) versions to circulate in the east.

    --Khanwulf...
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  • [QUOTE=wyrdhamster;n1345275]I like to run vampires, on general, as 'insects enclosed in amber' comparing to mortal society. They do not like changes, on general, and do not like to change roles in society. That's why I would simply stay out of Triumvirate option, rotating on Torpor. It's messy and destebelize vampric society too much - so they not like it. Now to Ventrue...
    /QUOTE]

    Your (Ventrue) plotline is at least plausible. Personally I like throwing in Justinian and Theodora as vamps--perhaps acting as figureheads or something? They got some fascinating supernatural bad...
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  • Your call mate--certainly SOME Julii did survive the purge. There are books listing them as characters. The sudden disappearance of the Julii is both convenient to the Ventrue and something I'd expect them to play up on over time, while in actuality the ascension of the Ventrue to power was more gradual than they'd like to suggest.

    Generally speaking we can assume the Ventrue were more associated with migrating tribes prior to the rise of feudal states such as the Franks. Constantinople was affected by but never fell to such tribes. Most likely the Prince (or even King of the ERE)...
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    Last edited by Khanwulf; 11-01-2019, 01:54 PM. Reason: More speculation on Ventrue

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  • Khanwulf
    replied to A Requiem version of Chimestry
    My best recommendation is going to more or less follow the same lines as the other commentators, except:

    Define the bloodline devotions first, then work your way back into the rest of the clan/bloodline writeup.

    Why? Because you want a sensible CofD power portrayal before you end up writing fluff, in-clan disciplines and the like. If the unique clan powerset makes sense the rest will follow.

    And yes, I'd recommend making Chimestry into a set of Devotions. Probably combining some mix of Obfuscate, Nightmare, Auspex and Majesty; I'd have to pour through WoD...
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  • Not true. You misunderstand the Julii in this regard. They were the Clan of Rome. Not Romans. Rome. The "Queen of Cities". Even as the Roman Empire decayed and the capital of that Empire migrated to more defensible locations (Ravenna, etc.) the Julii remained buried in Rome like ticks, pulling the strings of their Camarilla and acting like it was the heyday of the Republic.

    They didn't like to leave, and certainly didn't like to travel. Doing so put them at risk of being influenced by ethereal critters. Doing so took them away from what mattered: Rome and its power manipulations....
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  • Yeah, I think you need to specify the timeframe. It looks like you're after 1187 (reconquest of Jerusalem by Saladin) at least.

    One key point to consider is the impact of the siege of Jerusalem in 1099. That event was marked with excessive blood-letting and frenzy on the part of the mortal knights... so what was going on amongst the Kindred of the city and the crusading camps? WHY did things fall out as they did? --Jerusalem was noteworthy for its excesses, almost in echo of the city's fall to the Romans in AD70.

    Can you draw occulted parallels between these events, and...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Origins of Theban Sorcery?
    Interesting. So that's a clear line back to the Principle. Which I assume is the source of the Promethean Divine Fire? [Answer: yes.]

    So from Matt:
    And then there’s the God-Machine. The God-Machine is from the future, but the thing about time travel is that it’s irrelevant when it happens, as long as it does. The God-Machine has its own agenda, but its agenda is a lot more complicated than the Principle’s. In order to interact with the world, though, the God-Machine copied a lot of the Principle’s “software.” That’s why its angels always have enough free will to Fall.
    ...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Origins of Theban Sorcery?
    So we can conclude that at minimum Longinus' notes on his experiences were available when collated and codified in ~180.

    It might be entirely reasonable to attribute early notes to a combination of Longinus and his original cotarie aggregated around him in Palestine. In that case the experiences and voices thus recorded are provided his prophetic stamp and attribution even though he himself did not undergo them.



    What I'd like to do is be able to link Longinus to Palestine, the formation of his early adherents, and the incredible proxism of depraved bloodletting...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to [2ED] Bloodline: Qedeshah
    Family reunions are always fun. Try the pecan pie. It's to die for.

    But seriously(ish?)--blood sympathy enables all manner of curious gyrations.

    --Khanwulf...
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