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  • Very pleased to be of service.

    But really, let's step back for a moment and consider the perspective of the VtR 2.e writers. They need Auspex--it's a thing, and it's used to uncover secrets and clues as well as deliver psychic powers to vamps. VtM wandered off into the weeds with it by making the various levels of Auspex deliver tiers and flavors of clues (aura sight, for example), and that needs to be compressed down to meet VtR expectations.

    Ok. So someone had the bright idea of just letting the players ask questions. Players ask questions of the GM all the time; stuff...
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  • Right, and to that question (which supernatural power), I'd only give the last one used, and express it in thematic ways rather than reading from notes. The point being that Auspex should not break immersion even when the player is asking meta-questions; the answer is an opportunity to build horror and mystery, instead of reinforcing the fact you're at a table.

    --Khanwulf...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Half-Damned - what do we know?
    Let's be inclusive--if some dhampir are ninja turtles they should feel welcome. Cruac rituals especially are not terribly particular about who or what ends up being the parent....

    With (more?) seriousness, I'm pleased that it seems half-damned continues the trend toward "sure, play everything!" that seems woven into the 2e approach to splats. So, elders are not moldering wrecks of creaking evil prop-dressing, dhampir are people with distinct issues instead of hapless curses important only because their parents were "naughty", and the Pure werewolves are a mixed...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Half-Damned - what do we know?
    Special thanks to Rose Bailey for pulling this teaser out of a hat for us!

    The Invictus represent the special place of rulership that vampires obtain by dint of their existence. Dhampir are not vampires, ergo, they may not rule. The Sanctified separate the human herd from the supernaturally damned, so it would be little stretch for them to identify the, er, half-damned dhampir as being within the latter category as they most certainly wield some form of blood-manifested powers.

    In other words, seems logical to me.

    I'm looking forward to this book.
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  • Tsusasi's point is still valid. You're asking questions through Auspex to the room, not to the individual who was in the room at one time. I think keeping the context of the questions in mind helps to bring the power of Auspex back into line with intent. In other words, faced with a murder scene you could:

    * Ask what the murderer looked like
    * Ask if he used supernatural powers
    * Ask who was named in the room
    * Ask what the murderer was feeling (sympathetic impressions)
    * Ask what he smelled/tasted like
    * Ask what numbers were on the murderer (for things...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Britain, Forsaken by Rome
    "Yep. Yap, yeppers. We'll put the wall here, along that there ley line, thanks. Y'all got them there rituals prepped?"

    "We have, Emperor Hadrian."

    --Khanwulf...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Half-Damned - what do we know?
    I really, really wish they would release more teasers for this book, especially since it's now in art direction. Perhaps after GenCon they'll have time for that?

    My broad expectation is that we'll see an update on the ghouls book for 2e, lumping in further info on families, dhampiers, and other variations of a partial vampiric curse or lingering influence. Ghouls 1e is actually a rather heavy-handed book in my opinion, in line with 1e generally; I hope that Half-damned takes a lighter touch and emphasizes the range of play within the material.

    --Khanwulf
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Britain, Forsaken by Rome
    St. Columba founded the Iona monastery in 563 AD, so it's been there a while by the time of Wyrd's 799 setting. Also, by that point the vikings are a known problem: the attack on Lindisfarne in 793 AD signaled the beginning of the Viking Age, and the attack on Iona came shortly after in 794 AD, with a second, even more brutal raid in 806 that killed 86 monks (at the Bay of the Martyrs... a wound perhaps). Iona was a rich target, for sure.

    As for demographics, what I've found is that the Gaels made up maybe 10% of the top-level of the population by ethnicity when they merged with...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to DE2: Arthurian discussion
    I'd buy it.

    The idea that the Grail creates Proximi from those whom it permits to drink (only incidentally healing them) is hereby "borrowed". I do adore elegance.

    Would you be willing to expand a bit on your comments regarding Ruin and what it and/or the Seers could do against the original Camelot? I mean, they *could* act, since Supernal Time-sight would or could enable observation that Merlin was going to ascend... maybe... or not?!

    The core problem as I understood it was that Ruin and/or Prophet obliterated Camelot through a Working of Imperium...
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  • Awesome!

    And... hurr.. that shofar?! Well done. I may have to borrow that idea later (much later) for Dark Eras play. When I need an apocalyptic McGuffin. That's suckers got history streaming off it.

    --Khanwulf
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  • Thanks Haberdasher! Next, add a link to this thread in your signature....

    --Khanwulf
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Britain, Forsaken by Rome
    If you look at the historical European migration patterns throughout history they are generally west into Europe from Central Asia, pushing former peoples further west, upward in elevation (to poorer farming/hunting grounds) or north toward the same. That's what I was referring to, not cultural centers. (Exceptions to this are up through Iberia or the Balkans, but those tend to be fewer in number and seaborne.)

    Obviously if your ancestors have lived in, say, the Hebrides, since time immemorial then you'll have a very community-centric view of the world unless or until plenty of outside,...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Britain, Forsaken by Rome
    Dal Riata was Gaelic, and part of the colonization of Scotland by the Scotti people, who were in fact Irish. In the sixth century the Inner and Outer Hebrides were still Pictish and paid little attention to the crown of Dal Riata, but by the 800s they were surely fully mixed. Even so, we're literally talking about Hyperborea here, the edge of Europe and a place (speaking broadly of Scotland) to which peoples get pushed.

    I'm not educated enough to argue their farming potential in detail, but throughout this time period it was colder than now and the economy was heavily sea-oriented....
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  • Yes please. And yeah: your take on these guys is interesting in part because of the meta-play support their mechanics provides for what I perceive as their history and inclination. In other words, while you'll have plenty of CotM who build status in the Crone and sit tight (losing status is *painful*). Others will just say "F- you, I have other friends!" and deal with their supernatural depression by calling in a few favors and being "made" elsewhere.

    Here's another question: do you think said depression is a factor that has worsened as the particular skills of...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to Britain, Forsaken by Rome
    Well, this thread touches on a few other tribes that could be more significantly represented among the Picts. I'm still inclined to make the North heavily Pure influenced--Predator Kings and Fire-Touched mostly, though the royal Pictish lines could have some Ivory Claws in there. I'll probably use then in a protectorate that by your time at the end of the 8th century would be thoroughly frayed. The native Picts were subsumed by intermarriage with the Scotti (Irish Gaels), Germanics and other northmen, and well on their way to evaporating as a distinct people.

    The Hebrides would be...
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  • Thanks nofather, your experience is most welcome! It looks like the sum is: how packs behave is entirely dependent on their circumstances and characteristics, but they don't have a sure-fire way to finger an unknown wolf-blood (short of close contact, possibly extended and via interrogation). And how direct they may be in "dealing with" the problem will depend on how confident they feel at the time and other, specific circumstances and goals.

    In other words, packs (even Pure) are made of people, who just happen to turn into wolves and eat spirits....


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  • Likewise! And I need to revise my homebrew placeholder.......
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  • Wait, what? Ghoul families get the passive benefits even when "dry"? Please cite (1e) passage--this is interesting... and I've just re-read Ghouls without finding the reference.

    --Khanwulf...
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  • Khanwulf
    replied to You as a vampire?
    Invictus Ventrue, in the "gets what needs done, done" way, not the "stuffy prep-nobility" way. My ancient, now scattered group used to do this kind of exercise frequently and play the resulting characters--it made role-playing easier. Generally I picked "mortal" for lulz.

    But really, it would depend heavily on the circumstances of introduction into the night, who is involved and how they conduct themselves. Having the curtain pulled back to show the underbelly of an already disappointing world would be enough to rock world-views and enable a great deal...
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  • Forgive me, but I'd like to ask a set of follow-ups. Wolf-blooded are so often it seems just *assumed* to be around, already connected to packs, that I perceive a distinct gap between "normal human herdling", "unaligned (frequently unaware) wolf-blood" and "aligned and useful wolf-blood".

    As well we have several strong clues as to how Forsaken and Pure packs react to unknown werewolves in their territory (i.e. generally not favorably). But less I think regarding wolf-blooded.

    If the pack has a way to identify wandering wolf-blooded, how...
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