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[Shawarbaaz]

Eh maybe I mixed up things with Requiem a bit too much...

[Shawarbaaz]

There's at least three examples of such Gangrel in their Clanbook, so even if they're a minority they still exist....

[Shawarbaaz]

Uh uh, I disagree completely. You'd be surprised how many Gangrel Embrace politicians, lobbyists, industry kings and queens, and even corporate climbers. That real estate agent or sawmill entrepreneur who was revenge Embraced by a Gangrel? The politician Embraced by a Primogen who wanted advice on handling his position? The shark-like lawyer with the vicious personality and suits sharp as his fangs? Think original people......

[Shawarbaaz]

Yeah but even then the art quality is still far superior to the Photoshop slathered photography art that litter everything we get from White Wolf these days.

(Ps. I still can't get over Shadowrun's revolver stilettos, however)...

[Shawarbaaz]

That's just a lazy excuse, if guys at White Wolf think like that I won't give them another penny (and I'm starting to think that they DO think like that) why do other games like Shadowrun and Call of Cthulhu has decently thematic and concise art that carries the point across without looking uninspired?...

[Shawarbaaz]

We also need more "non-gamer diversity", in terms of photography art (which I'm not a big fan of) many Clans that wouldn't Embrace nerds and gamers get portrayed by models who really look like the gamer crowd, with poorly fitting costumes and sometimes sexualized poses in case of female characters.

This all can be easily circumvented through traditional/digital art, which is not only less expensive, but is it's more aesthetically pleasing (in my opinion) and it allows the artist to depict whatever type of character they imagine.

Also costumes are also another...

[Shawarbaaz]

There are some canon characters who has a conscience rating of 0 (can't immediately recall them atm) I guess you can lose your last shred of conscience and automatically fail every roll from that point onward, making your descent to the jaws of the Beast a quick one

[Shawarbaaz]

Ah people, here we ago again (can't believe I have to repeat this...)

If you want to play black and white, Heroes vs. Villains comic book style dichotomies then this is not your game, why waste your time with Vampire when there's Dungeons and Dragons, Marvel Superheroes Rolepaying Game, and many, countless other games that let you do that?

Simply put, Vampire (be it VTM or VTR) is to be about politics, close up, local horror, politics, social backstabbing, politics, humiliation, thirst, politics, playing semblants, religion, politics, ambitions, favor exchanges among...

[Shawarbaaz]

It is a serious game, it's just not a "dark and gritty" game like most other Onyx Path IPs. Pugmire is a real game, light-heartened but no less valid.

[Shawarbaaz]

Speaking of which, what happens if a vampire feeds on the Vitae of a mortal who has been completely drained via Breath Drinking? There's blood but no Vitae so... No nourishment?

[Shawarbaaz]

Bait? I'm serious, and look we started a fun discussion...

[Shawarbaaz]

In milliters please.

Also where do vampires store them? In their belly? Does their body work as some kind of Vitae tank?

[Shawarbaaz]

Well you should've stated at the start that leaving Port Royal is impossible because (Lupines, sharks, pirates, Vitae-sucking giant parasites, aliens, or just lupines) and that they HAVE TO play politics if they want to keep their hides or risk imminent death by stepping a foot outside the village.

[Shawarbaaz]

Did you put in consideration the social backlash from feeding on animal blood? And how any Toreador Harpy could discern that from the smell in your mouth and nostrils (using Auspex)? Unless you're a Nosferatu or Gangrel this could mean political suicide to any member of the patrician clans (Toreador, Tremere, Ventrue) and humiliation to lesser but significant clans (Brujah, Malkavian) which might be the leading reason behind vampires adopting exclusively human diets.

[Shawarbaaz]

She didn't take advantage of anyone's mistakes, rather it was all perfect timing on Veronique's part, managing to slip past Giselle's hawk eyes into the Estate proper, Dominating ghouls and knowing that Philippe is all too eager to cause a ruckus in the city's crumbling structure....

[Shawarbaaz]

Wow, no more contributions to this thread? Shame really, political intrigue is a huge part of this game that is often overlooked

[Shawarbaaz]

Ever heard people say "appearances are everything"? Well it's duly true in this context. Anyone who made the transition from ugly duckling to physically desirable at some point in their lives will tell you how important it is to look good. It isn't just about first impressions, in my experience appearance amounts to everything. During my awkward teenage period I was practicallyy a social outcast, putting little care in my appearance or how I dress, I had no friends, no social life, I didn't even bother to get myself a phone or social media. After puberty did its magic and I found myself...

[Shawarbaaz]

Here's another one: why does this character exist and what purpose does he serve in the world other than being a supreme edgelord?

Edit: at least he isn't Samuel Haig- he who must not be named.

[Shawarbaaz]

I'm just going to assume that your PCs are incredibly strong-willed individuals because my 5 dot Retainer is totally super addicted to Vitae and can't go a single day without asking me for some

Edit: It's a storytelling game pal, mechanics mean nothing

[Shawarbaaz]

Oh buuuuuuuurn...