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  • scifirabbi
    replied to M5
    I agree that this theme of fractured monolith has been done a lot but i still like it! But also what i would really like to see is not a fractured monolith but an actual break into two or more factions based on the idea that groups within the Technocracy feel things have gone astray and either leaving to start the "real technocracy" or staying and fighting for the soul of the greater whole. lot like modern political parties or religious denominations.

    As for how to avoid the V5 issue, I think there are certain issues you can say that supernaturals have taken advantage of...
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    Last edited by scifirabbi; 12-07-2018, 03:11 PM.

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  • scifirabbi
    replied to Mage 5 and a new vision
    My understanding is that the Nephandi are by definition destructive and corrupt and seek to bring the earth to ruin. What varies is what they think the world will look like after that destruction and what their role will be. For some, probably the ones who are actually right about what will be left, they are just nihilists, fully expect the earth to be utterly destroyed and they just want to be there to see the world burn with them included. Others think they will be the rulers of the (better to rule in Hell that to serve in heaven). And others believe they are engaging in creative destruction,...
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  • A bit torn on the question of metaplot. On one hand i like the extra flavor and feeling that there is areal living world going on around you that you get from metaplot. And i like much of the direction of the metaplot in M20. But i also find it can get very complicated and honestly rather pretentious at times. But after years of running Awakening precisely because I was tired of the metaplot I realize i kind of miss at least some of the deeper plot and background from Ascension. Oy, the dllemma! In particular i find that metaplot tends to engage one the things I like least in rpg players...
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  • scifirabbi
    replied to Mage 5 and a new vision
    So first, in my game I always focused more on the infernalists, who as i understood it did, in some way at least, serve these patrons. It is also, i believe stated that nephandi, encourage cults and i run with that!

    As for the distnction between the loveraftian nephandi and the malfean, I will admit to playing a bit fast and loose with that in so far as liberally interpreting the chthulhu scenarios to fit a more WoD cosmos and not being just literally about just teh mythos....
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  • scifirabbi
    replied to Mage 5 and a new vision
    I actually think its the second option. It seems to me that Nephandi and marauders started as secondary villains, focussing on destroying or unraveling reality while the traditions and technocracy focussed on creating it in their respective images. From a conceptual point of view I think the difference between nephandi and marauders originally was why they wanted reality destroyed and maybe how -Nephandi for their dark masters to rebuild it in THEIR images and marauders just cos! But as time went on (and maybe as more people like me started using cthulhu scenarios for their Mage games!) Nephandi...
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  • scifirabbi
    replied to Mage 5 and a new vision
    A few thoughts:

    1 I think there are quite a few people out there, myself included, that liked elements of both ascension and awakening and would not mind M5 taking the best of both worlds. Especially i think some of the mechanics were better and clearer in awakening and while i love the basic set up of the acsension war i much prefer the more localized and modular aspects that M20 seemed to take from awakening.

    2 On mechanics I would particularly like to see the spheres work a bit more like the arcana in so far as they don;t require so much combination with other spheres...
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  • scifirabbi
    replied to M5
    I also would like to see the spheres look a little more like the arcana of awakening in so far as they require less of the combinations of spheres to create effects and can do more things more easily with each sphere separately...
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  • scifirabbi
    replied to M5
    I agree with those who say that the recent V5 debacle will mean a new focus from whatever was being planned. Personally i liked the way that M20 was pointing to an greater focus on nephandi as a significant faction in the ascension war, both in terms of having been a corrupting force in the technocracy and as a separate force. The former point allows for more division within the technocracy and more opportunity to take the unity out of the Union and allow for more factions either breaking away from the Technocracy or fighting to save it from itself. This provides for more nuanced and varied...
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