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  • Arduras Damn, you're right, but I guess it means that blood bond doesn't work, but the addiction works as always. Anyways not bad method
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  • I'm away from home and can't check it, but are you sure that you can drink kindred vitae without vinculum or addiction using Protean 1 or 5? I'm not sure if I understood your post....
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    Last edited by Edgar McAlister; 03-19-2017, 02:44 PM.

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  • Edgar McAlister
    replied to Giant Merit
    amechra I must admit that the Resilience and Vampire arguments were stupid. I was procrastinating at work and forgot I wrote a post on Chronicles of Darkness forum, not Vampire the Requiem. Shame on me. Nevertheless it's +1 health.
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  • Edgar McAlister
    replied to Giant Merit
    I didn't analyse the Resilience in terms of access. I just summarized it is better for a player character from a Vampire player/ST perspective. I don't have any problem with fact that someone disagrees with me. You can play however you want. In the end, the most important thing is to enjoy your game. I guess that the developers' intent was it gives +1 health, due to the fact it worked that way for years in all Vampire editions I can remember (or maybe I'm wrong? Yep I know it is CoD forum, but I'm a big Vampire fan and sometimes forget about other settings people play).
    As it comes to the...
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  • Edgar McAlister
    replied to Giant Merit
    There is no doubt TempestSatori that Giant merit grants +1 health, not +2. You gain the health due to increased size. As always the ST may rule something different if he or she has a feeling that the merit is underpowered, but IMO increased size is a bit more than just +1 health. However for many players buying resilience seems more reasonable...
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  • Thanks a million. I get It now. Rose answer should be placed in the errata, imo....
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  • Edgar McAlister
    replied to Prince's Embrace Day
    The chess on the back isn't my idea.It was presented in the Invictus covenant book in previous requiem edition. You're right that not every prince in not every domain will have enough power (both physical and political) to penalize in such way....
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  • I've found something like this in CotC description

    But maybe many OD Academies don't care who control the domain, they have their research to do

    In XXI century maybe there are already more Crones than Dragons, because all the pagan cults somehow united. You have a point that there are more Democrats than Masons and the niche is really important, but the timeline is important too, because without the means of communication its was difficult to spread the Kindred ideology, since most vampires don't like nomadic life....
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  • I guess that most if not ALL Ordo Dracul believe in God existence, they just don't agree with Longinus teaching. They want to overcome the curse.


    It's really fun to run OD like a secret society, both as a player and ST. A coterie of players could be the hidden secret OD in the city or they play in other covenants and OD is a secret antagonist plotting to take over the city.

    Are you sure that the're the smallest sect? Of course we are talking about the main covenants- Invictus, Carthians, LS, CotC and OD. It all depends about what timeline we are talking about,...
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  • I like to think about Ordo Dracul not as a covenant like all the rest, but for most of it's history it is more like a secret society or a cult. Of course in terms of the mechanics they are a covenant, but some Academies might think about themselves as a Society, Order and when asked "Are you a secret covenant?" would Answer NO and believed they answered truthfull. Ordo Dracul functions as a covenant after The Philadelphian Rite. Wallachian Rite makes them something similar to Iluminati or Freemasons. A Sworn of Mysteries could want to be a part of Invictus to become a Senator or be a...
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  • Damn, I was so glad and self-satisfied after posting my answer Anyways OD isn't easy to understand their purpose, to get to know how they think and feel. It took me few years and I managed to get it as a player not a ST. When I was a ST my OD was really generic, nothing special, really. It's good to sometimes step into someone's shoes to understand their motives.
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  • Firstly, you should ask yourself what rite does OD use in your Chronicle/City and in which year do you play, because for the most of it's history in most of the places Ordo Dracul in a secret society. What role does the Freemasons have? They could be the city's most wise occultists or rather be ordinary Kindred to keep the secret. Most trusted Prince's seneschal could be the hidden Kogaion, who has the wish to overthrow the Prince. Or maybe OD is more peaceful and just want to continue their studies without inquisitor's knowledge- it's up to you.

    Ordo Dracul could help the city in...
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  • Neat 25 beats on a game session. Did you commit diabolism? We've made a limit, the best player can't have more than 4 beats above the worst on a game session and the rule works surprisingly well. Sometimes someone is sad, but it helps to activate team work actions. I'm not a fan of limits, but in a team work oriented saga it works fine....
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  • Assuming it's for a gangrel it's 3 in-clan discipline and 1 claws of the unholy unless I missed something....
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  • I guess it is possible to achieve 4XP in 3 (+/-1) game sessions, assuming that a player makes risky actions or likes getting into trouble. As always it depends on the ST....
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  • Well in many cases, maybe even most of them you're right, but aggravated damage means overcoming most of the armor and stop healing via vitae during the combat,...
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  • Yes, we won't settle anything without a clarification, so until then anyone picks what suits him or her....
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  • Agree, but I guess that the supporters of the 1st interpretation won't change their mind unless we see the developers intention. In the end a ST can choose what suits him or her. Both interpretations seem reasonable....
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  • I guess he wanted to emphasize that the developers would mention about the additional cost of frenzy.Since they didn't there are two possible options- it is activated when you use the discipline while in frenzy(2nd interpretation) or it is free (highly unlikely)....
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  • You have a point here, it doesn't matter whose the rules are, but I feel better not to house rule if only I can find out what was the purpose.

    I have the same feeling....
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