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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    The Paradigm for technotoys is broken. Its not just technobabble pseudoscience, its totally broken.

    -"Cool! I can see extra Dimensional beings with my kirlian sunglasses!" (common Instrument - foci - without any magikal powers whatsoever. The agent simply uses Spirit 1, the sunglasses is just the focus to the effect, norhing more)
    -"Oh, let me see that (his unenlightened friend asks his glasses)
    -"Hum... I can't see a thing"
    -"Thats because you're dumb. You dont understand how to use the glasses"
    -"Sooo... I dont understand...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Initiative
    You still dont need Mind 2 to see the future, unless you wanna see future toughts. Period.

    And you're NOT "looking into your own pattern". What the hell does that even mean?

    No, when you use Time, your senses are transported there, as if you were present in that future or past time. You CAN only see as far as your mundane senses can, so, here is where other spheres enter. But I dont need ANYTHING else to see somebody punching my face where I'm, just a few moments from Now... And, after seing my enemy punching my face, I dont need Mind 2 to guess his tought...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Initiative
    M20 spheres just seem more trash to me with each passing moment, and the worst of all is that HDYDT.

    I mean, what's the use of Time 3 "try again CORE POWER if it is totally useless alone? (Oh no, pardon me, its not useless, youll take Paradox EVERY FUCKING TIME you use it, and since you won't remember a thing, things will just repeat non stop (because you're still going to be punched, and will return the loop because of it), until you get a sufficient backlash to send you to weirdland Umbral city of Paradox
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  • Those differences have profound impacts on game play that goes way beyond personal beliefs of the chars. So, no, its not just because the Garou will many kill the MAGE because he is a zealoty fanatical that things that Mages are disrupters of Gaia, but because there are many changes in the scenario that totally disfugures both games
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  • Its NOT about Byzantine theological discussions between splats. Its about - is technology just some weird collective belief, or is it something of the Weaver? Because THAT has an absolutely impact in the game (werolves can use cellphones just fine in Amazonia, technocrats cant).

    And, once again, the Technocracy is either mighty or isn't nothing. And Mage without them is just that crap Awakening. So, it doesn't work....
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  • Just as it has absolutely ZERO impact for WoD if WtA lore is incorrect. Stop thinking your favorite splat is the best thing in the world since soap because its NOT true, no matter how much you like (just like I dont think that Mage should be the supremme game of WoD. So please, stop it right there)



    Dude, where da hell do you get that shit? The Traditions understand the Consensus just as fine as the Technocracy, THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THE ASCENSION WAR!!!

    Besides, lets see a few of those Traditions that "incorporates Gaia":
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  • Yep.





    Yep, its like I said, you can either have Gaia or Consensus, but NOT both.

    Maybe, the closest thing we could do to mend those two (the two troublemakers of WoD, Werewolf and Mage), perhaps its the discussion on "Reality Principles" we had on the Mage forum, because it does say that Consensus can only be achieved by the totality of beings on the Tellurian, meaning that some gazillions of spirits are far more relevant than some few billions of humans, reality is subjective but no one could tell, because it is higly kept by inercia...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    Oh comon, thats bullshit



    Thats what happens when you leave the Union. You become stupid.

    Superstitious idiots...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Initiative
    Wow, that's actually a good one! Well done, I hadn't thought about that...

    Now, for the mechanics:

    Time 2 allows see the future. Ok. But we dont really want that always on, specially because it would just give you weird visions at the worst possible times, and not just visions of your "next turn"... Well, you COULD make a "next turn" vision always on... But that would be absurdly... Disturbing... And would potencially hinder you instead of helping (just try to imagine you constantly seeing two different frames of reality, just one (or a few) seconds...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    Oh, thats bullshit... Why do the techie can do those super freaking awesome things so easily that ANYONE could use but the mystics with centuries to thousands of years of experience can't? Oh no, thats not right.

    Besides, I dont like to simply veto stuff for one or another group just randomly

    (On the brighter side, its good to refresh my memory about the Union using industrial mass production for their devices, I wasn't wrong about it)

    Thats giving too much Power to the Technocracy (they already mass produce troops and toys).

    No no no, its oficial...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    Hmm... Ok. I never took the trouble of REALLY reading technomancers toybox, I found it rather boring, and I didn't knew of that new type of Wonder... Well, its cool, but it should also be present in dragons fire.

    Question: mystics can do it too right?...
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  • Gaia is true.

    BANG! YOU killed Mage.
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  • Werewolf lore is... Just another Paradigm, one of many.

    PAM! You just killed WtA...
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  • "Eshu Skull", as he is called here in Brazil, the most feared orisha - except for his female counterpart, Pombagira, who only possess women and homossexuals (spirit-entity-god... Funnly enough, it would be something similar to the concept of Umbral Celestines or Incarna for WtA).

    Some theories even claim he were the inspirarion for the greek/roman god Hermes - mischevous trickster, thief and liar, Messenger of the gods - both character share those traits.

    Its always possible... For example, you could have an " Anubite Kith", men with chacals heads....
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Data and Primal Utility
    You truly are a mind reader wizard

    Thanks camarade. Now, go to room 101...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    http://umbral-domains.wikidot.com/cybernetics

    Here are some headcannon house rules for cybernetics. Its interesting, all try to seek some exerts of GURPS ultratech and similar and make some adjusts, it is by far the most detailed source about that
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    True, my mistake.

    However, what about artifacts with always on fixed effects that dont require Arete rolls (like a tinfoil hat that grants a permanent 5 successes mental shield while weared)?

    The book wasn't very specific about that.



    Yep.



    Well, thats actually an interesting thing. For example:

    Your plasma Cannon needs Power Cells to work. The Power Cells are useless after their charges are over.

    Power Cells could be disposable Gadgets... Use it, throw it away, get a new one (Power Cells are...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Cyborg Enforcers...Advices?
    I dont have the Forged by Dragon in english, only the version in portuguese. They translated it as "Invent", the Technocratic version of Talisman.

    I dont remember the proper name in english


    If it doesn't take a will pt, its NOT a Talisman, its an artifact, and doesn't have Arete of its own



    So, those are amonsgt the additional ways of dealing with Paradox (all done with Prime 5). Most of the times, the Wonder will suck up all the Paradox to itself (it may just break harmlessly beyond repair, or unleash all its quota in a single...
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Mythic Threads and magic rules
    Its more like "conservation of magik".

    If it hás the same quintessential amount, its fair game.

    Quintessence however, does NOT have a physical naturalistic interaction with the material world, but rather a methapysical connection. There is no 1 quintessence = x kilograms of Matter, or 1 quintessence = x kilojoules of energy. Quintessence can become spirit, or even a tought (and can also come from those sources), that are basically immaterial (ephemeral)....
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  • Karlgust
    replied to Data and Primal Utility
    Could you use that to make a talisman using the tarfet's permanent willpower instead of yours?...
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