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  • I'm reminded here of the adage that "X is racist" is basically the new way to say "shut up".

    Also of the saying, "no one can make you feel inferior without your consent."...
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  • Part of this is a matter of economics. For better or for worse, nerd culture has always been far more interested in East Asia than in Africa (or South Asia, or Latin America, or ...). That said, while I wish Africa had gotten more coverage*, the place is such a blank spot in the knowledge base of so many people - even more so 20 years ago - that it was likely never going to get more than a shallow and generalized coverage. Which is a shame, really. The place is so huge and diverse that the vampires of Liberia, Cape Town and Ethiopia should be as different from each other as those of Liverpool,...
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  • This is a valid argument. In all honesty, the only real reason to even consider a "WoD: Gypsies/Romani" book is the ethnic groups' historical place as a genre trope in Gothic Horror. And I'm not even entirely sold on it from that perspective. The only reason the book even still crosses my mind after all these years is, to quote Adam Pacitti, "I can do it better, because I'm a smart ass." I perfect hindsight, you'd do better, I think, having a V:tM book on Nomads that would discuss them and Travelers in the same way it discussed Deadheads, truck drivers, wave chasing night surfers,...
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  • My single biggest problem with Aberrant was that each of the developers very clearly had a favorite "pet" faction that they wanted the game to revolve around - Hatch with the Aberrants; Blackwelder with the Teragen - and rigged everything about the setting in their favor....
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  • Incidentally, all four of the Independent clans, as presented in the original Players Guide, were more or less 1930s era pulp fiction villain tropes. Killer assassins, thieving gypsies, Egyptian cultists and wealthy inbred freaks. (Justin Achilli once commented that they're also all factions from The Illuminati - Assassins, Discordians, The Society of Light and The Gnomes of Zurich, IIRC)...
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  • It's not so much racist as just super dumb and having little or nothing to do with the titular subject matter, either in the real world or in the context of the gothic horror genre (Stoker's Dracula or it's various movie adaptions, Doyle's The Adventure of the Speckled Band, Lovecraft's The Cats of Ulthar, DeLint's Mulengro, The Wolf Man, House of Frankenstein). A book that actually covered that, and talked about how various supernatural creatures can or can not fit into said cultures (vampires being both dead and needing to drink blood, or that werewolves, being shape shifters who are supernaturally...
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  • The Brujah are primarily driven by passion, usually the darker kind, and for the ones who get into politics can get a bit rabid about it, the same way those in academia or religion or entertainment can about their pet issue. The older ones can be pretty damn scary about it, looking at individuals as littler more than pawns or props in their very long term projects or crusades. And, as much as they like to say they're the vanguard of whatever political movement they want to claim credit for, vampires usually end up following human innovations or trends rather than instigating them.

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  • I always did enjoy that character template.

    I think the first Lupus I ever played had the name "Cricket" because she wouldn't shut up....
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  • I would have said Assamite. Just because of the whole "no women" thing.

    Actually, given the description you gave, I probably would've suggested a Brujah progressive socialist community organizer or something. But I was always weird....
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  • I'm going to go with "yes" for $500, Alex.

    I was acquainted with the author of the revised Ravnos clanbook (as well as the Dark Ages version), and she was a very vocal critic of the entire Roma stereotype aspects of the clan (and of Roma in general).

    I started playing Vampire back in high school around the time the second edition originally came out (1992), and as much as I enjoyed it, by about 1997 or so, I'd come to understand just how much of the early WoD stuff was extremely wonky in certain ways. And a lot of the revised edition material fixed part of...
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  • No One of Consequence
    replied to Which New Pantheons do you want?
    Eastern Siberia would be kind of cool. I admit I know next to nothing about the culture, but still.

    Tengrism (from Mongolia and parts of Central Asia), on the other hand, I do know a little bit about, and I think you could do some interesting stuff with it....
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  • I believe Neil Gaiman has a new book out, Norse Mythology. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I'm sure it'll offer some interesting ideas....
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  • It's been so long since I've looked at my copy of Demon that I can't recall anything about Companions, unfortunately. I think the term for them are Thralls and they are in the book Damned & Deceived.

    The Mer were in World of Darkness: Blood-Dimmed Tides and, IIRC, came in two types: the "Seelie-like" Merfolk fish ones (mermaids and the like) and the "Unseelie-like" Merdhuacha invertebrate ones (squids, crabs, etc.).

    IIRC, Reborn is another name for Mummies.

    I was always a little disappointed that Bygone Bestiary was a...
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  • I forget, is Hesta listed in the Greek one? She's always been my hands down favorite of the pantheon for some odd reason. Maybe because she's the only one who doesn't act like a jerk.

    Also, Iris, Hebe and Hecate.

    The Loa Loco and Ayizan (he of healing and plants, she of commerce and the marketplace)

    Tsukuyomi....
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  • No One of Consequence
    replied to Which New Pantheons do you want?
    Hmm. American Pantheon … Ben Franklin, George Washington, Fredrick Douglass, Abe Lincoln, Davey Crockett, Thomas Edison, Harry Houdini, Susan B. Anthony, Amelia Earhart, Gen. George Patton, Elvis Presley, John Wayne, Lucile Ball, and Martin Luther King?

    Or, alternately, Uncle Sam, Columbia, Billy Yank, Johnny Reb, Lady Liberty, Brother Johnathon, High John the Conquerer, The Nameless Cowboy, Raoul Duke, and The Wild One....
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  • IIRC, the "B-list" (or as I refer to them, Twilight People, since they exist on the edges of the various subcultures of Darkness like the Kindred, Garou, etc.) are:

    Ghouls and Revenants (I really wish they'd been called something else, since the term refers to walking corpses)
    Kinfolk (whose main deal is just that they don't go into a mindless panic state when seeing werebeasts in full combat mode, but can end up with special powers sometimes)
    Sorcerers
    Mediums
    Kinain (the fey equivalent of Kinfolk)
    Witchhunters (the people covered in Hunters...
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  • They're all more or less on par with werewolves, but with a handful of exceptions (the rare Corax that hangs around a Garou pack, the Asian Beast Courts, the African Ahadi), each breed usually does its own thing and doesn't really interact with others that much. You could do something with a Nuwusha, Kitsune, Corax and Bastet all hanging out together for a few months, or a Bastet working with an Orphan and a Risen, since PCs usually tend to be exceptions to these sort of things....
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  • Cutie marks, brands, tomayto, tomahto …....
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  • Drones and Gorgons are to Fomori what the Weaver and the Wyld are to the Wyrm, respectively. Kami are the (usually, sometimes) Gaian equivalent.

    Enchanted covered a few things, the one I mainly remember being mortals born with blood relations to Changelings, sometimes giving them access to Kith birthrights or frailties as well as some other abilities.

    Gypsies are just people. Anything covered in WoD: Gypsy can be done (often better) with the stuff in Sorcerer and other books. (The exception is the knife fighting power which IIRC was just an adaption of the rules for...
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  • My Tzimisce is ... a Brony.
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