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  • In hindsight, I rather wish there had been a sourcebook about Wraiths who venture out into the wilderness or the darker crannies of Necropoli to scrounge for any and everything that might be useful and can be traded for other goods and services. Sort of a mix of urban explorers, Tomb Raider, and Beyond Thunderdome's Bartertown.

    There used to be a thing called rag and bone men, or just ragmen/ragpickers, who would collect assorted household items being thrown out and try to sell them to lower end merchants, sometimes refurbished or not. While it largely went away after WW2, you still...
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  • City watch, as well as assorted secret police, first responders (to spectres, nihils, other emergencies/disasters), quick response teams, etc.

    Service industies, including entertainment, news/media, corpus sculpting, pathos supply, housing, and so forth.

    Messengers, couriers....
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  • Nosferatu apparently. 🤔🤷
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  • I'm still mildly disappointed Deirdre Brooks didn't put him in the revised Ravnos book.

    And you're welcome to come hang out in my cave and help me yell at kids who come near my lawn....
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  • Yeah. In hindsight, I think one of the biggest missed opportunities with the 2nd ed By Night books is that they didn't try to make each one a different example of how vampire politics could work. If 1st ed Chicago is the baseline example of a powerful tyrant prince with a strong primogen that could challenge him if they felt like it and various potential Camarilla, Anarch, and even Sabbat challengers around the edges (and 2nd ed is what happens when said prince is removed), the rest should try to be something different. LA should show how an Anarch run city can function (even if more than a few...
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  • I keep thinking it would be interesting to go back and try to redesign LA by Night circa 1992 with the benefits of hindsight, better access to research and information on various things, and a much more developed take on the Anarchs and how the "Free States" would function. Also a better eye to history. (I would really prefer the Anarch takeover of LA to happen in the late 60s or so, mainly because I think if you are doing Classic Film Noir Vampire in 40s and 50s LA, it works better as a Camarilla city, at least IMO.)...
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  • True. And one of the reasons Requiem's Carthians book ended up giving me a lot of useful things to think about regarding Anarchs. (In a similar vein, the Invictus book was really useful for the Camarilla.) You can have a group of Anarchs who are essentially 1920s Italian Fascists (or its Marcus Garvey led African American counterpart) alongside a Hippy commune and an outlaw biker gang, and all of them be legit Anarchs. Likewise the clique of coffee house intellectual anarchists, a bunch of vampire nuns, and that Fake Rapper from the original Brujah clanbook. It's part of why I find them fun. (But...
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  • No One of Consequence
    replied to Looking for Vengeance Gods
    Viðarr/Vidar/Vithar is the Norse god of Vengeance.

    Petbe is the Egyptian god of Revenge.

    Praxidice is the Greek goddess of Judicial Punishment and Vengeance.

    I know Petbe and Praxidice have never been officially written up; I'm not sure about Vidar.
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  • That sounds like the sort of thing that would make an interesting subject for a nonfiction book. 🤔...
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  • Unless the M20 books have something about it, I can't find anything. (You would think Masters of the Art would have had them, but no. 🤨)

    My off the cuff suggestion would be that the cap for those sort of arcane metaphysics backgrounds (Avatar, Arcane, Familiar, etc.) be equal to the character's Arete rating, or if you wish, one rank higher. (So a character with Arete 5 could have Avatar 5 or 6, depending on your preferences.) In the case of Avatar, it means the baseline quintessence for the character continues to go up. Maybe +2 at ranks six and seven, +3 at ranks eight and nine....
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  • It means he is old and extremely powerful. (more detailed answer probably depends on which edition)
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  • Yeah, New England has so much history and culture that plays very well with Vampire's personal and gothic horror themes - the surviving native populations, the French influence in the north, the timber, whaling, and fishing trades, the old mill towns, lighthouses, colleges, places dependent on outsider tourism, recent economic depression, and long stretches of empty wilderness - that the Revolution should almost be just a small sideshow.

    Likewise, I still can't understand how you do a Vampire book about Berlin in the early 90s and completely ignore both 1920s film and cabarets and...
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  • Yeah. The Kindred, especially the Camarilla, essentially live in a world akin to Mean Girls, Heathers, Jawbreaker, and Cruel Intentions. And that is on the good nights....
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  • I lament that there was never a classic sourcebook about the Fame background and how to work with it in chronicles, including characters who were famous while alive and what happens after the embrace, and vampires who become famous and how the Masquerade deals with that.

    As for famous-in-life vampires, I like to imagine that 90s blues guitarist turned Ravnos Brian Thompson has turned into a sort of blues version of Elvis, with fans debating if he is still alive or not and his original CDs going for large sums on the collectors' market. Meanwhile, people swear they've seen someone...
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  • IIRC, World of Darkness: Blood & Silk, rather than templates, had a collection of character concepts and which Dharmas worked best with them. The idea ended up being repeated with Dark Ages: Vampire, with a bunch of concept ideas that each listed which Clans and Roads best fit....
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  • No One of Consequence
    replied to Dark Ages Fae
    It's vastly different because it takes place a few hundred years before the majority of Fae either left for Arcadia or underwent the Changling Way to survive the changing world. It's more or less what Changelings were before they had to become Changelings.

    Changeling, unfortunately, never sold as well as some of the other games, and had stopped producing any new material a few years before Dark Ages: Fae was made. There are a number of financial and other calculations that go into a company deciding which books to make. I've no idea how much profit the book turned, or what other...
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  • Hmm. If forced to pick one, probably the revised Glasswalkers book.🤔
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  • There was, once the popularity/sales of the original book warranted its expansion into a full line, a Companion, the five Dharma books, the single Heretical Dharmas book, the Dhampyrs book, the San Fransisco by Night book, The 1000 Hells, and one or two others, IIRC. There was also Sunset Empires, which was going to be a crossover with Victorian Age Vampire, but ended up only being a PDF release....
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  • I admit I'm curious which tracks you picked. (I don't use Spotify and that's unlikely to change anytime in the future, as I'm old and the app annoys my pet dinosaur.)

    My tentative Mage: 1984 playlist (which is still a work in progress)
    • Oingo Boingo - Wake Up (It's 1984)
    • Franky Goes To Hollywood - Two Tribes
    • Van Halen - Mean Streat
    • The Go-Gos - This Town
    • Missing Persons - Walking in LA
    • Afrika Bambaataa & Soul Sonic Force - Renegades of Funk
    • Pat Benatar - Anxiety (Get Nervous)
    • The Ramones - Time Has Come Today
    • Frank Zappa - Cocaine Decisions
    • Huey Lewis and The
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  • There were templates in the various Dharma books. Five each, IIRC. Kindred of the Ebony Kingdoms never got any expansion material though. Nor did Dark Ages' Veil of Night. So a lot of readers who aren't very familiar with those various cultures are usually left with only the most bare bones of cultural stereotypes they may have picked up from assorted Western-accessible media from the time.

    Of the first edition books, I think Hunters Hunted could've benefited from some pre-made character templates. The Year of the Hunter books had some, but I would've enjoyed a few totally independent...
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