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Id still be intrested

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I think soon as in “Shunned by the Moon isn’t that far away” soon....

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It’s explicitly stated they aren’t kin, and that that’s the primary reason that Beasts are so incredibly unnerved by them. (I’m not entirely sure how that works given that in the BPG it was mentioned that they were born from larval beasts deciding to not fuse with human fears and a lair)

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Ok I’ve read the book a few times and looked throug the forums a few times, but I’m still really confused. What should a Demon Blooded do for Embeds that have Cover or Primium as an innate part of the mechanics? A lot of powers do it (Including several they bring up in Heirs to Hell, like Heart’s Desire and Occam’s Razor) and I just don’t know how it would work. Are the Embeds just useless to them?

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1. Wisdom is intresting, because it’s more about being aware of yourself than being secure in your beliefs. So yeah, it would be you would feel like a fool. You would have the epithany of “what the fuck am I doing using magic for this petty of a thing?”, and that’s an hounest epiphany right there, and very on theme for Mage

2. You would in that moment, feel that you are doing something *more* human in that moment , for lying to save your own ass and acting with the power you have been awarded are both *very* human if you take them generally. It’s realizing that being human...

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...You know. Taking that into account, that sounds chillingly like what Deviant has been described as to us so far.

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Yeah I admit Spirits require a significant disconnect that things like Exiles, Goatia, and (especially) Ghosts just don’t. Still would be an intresting thought experiment.

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Hm. Out of idle curiosity, I wonder if the playable ghost rules will be able to be translated to other ephemerals like Spirits (Which could be in Werewolf pack ala The Pack) and Exiles.

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This one is kinda weird but...

You're Just like Them
They are repugnant. Evil. Insane. You want nothing to do with them and yet... you are like them in all the ways you hate. You want to pretend they are different because you hate it, but they are just that reflection of the things you hate about yourself.
Dice Pool: Manipulation + Satiety vs. Composure + Supernatural Tolerance
Normal: The Victim believes that some group chosen by the beast has something fundamentally wrong with them, but that they are also part of that group. Attempts to interact with this group...