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  • I should have clarified that the question was actually “Is the base effect of restoring willpower patterning or perfecting” rather than adding in my observations of looking at effects, so that’s on me....
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  • Another, hopefully easier to answer question

    I was looking at some improvised spells I could do now that I’m at Mind 3, and me and my group have run into a disagreement on what practice something counts as

    I was looking at clear mind as a reference example, and noticed it had the effect of restoring willpower, and I was discussing using it as a way to recharge the willpower batteries. Another player brought up I should be able to cast a spell to just restore willpower itself at Mind 3

    I looked into it though, looking at other examples, already knowing that...
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  • I was asking “how can I apply this effect of mage armor as a spell”, everyone else(including yourself) was interpreting that as casting mage armor as a spell. The logic of it is still screwy but my question got answered elsewhere with a suitable in universe answer so I’ll drop it here...
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  • But they apparently cannot duplicate the effects of Mage Armor with creative thaumaturgy, is what I’m asking. This isn’t a question of “can I protect myself or other people with magic”, I’m not looking for advice on how to do that. I simply want to know, can I duplicate this ability I apparently have as an attainment at arcana 2, with a full spell, taking on all the disadvantages of using it as a spell. If I cannot do that, what is the in game, in universe reason....
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  • It isn’t the only goal, no, merely an example. The other part of the question was that if I couldn’t duplicate this ability I apparently have at arcana 2, why not?...
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  • So then your answer is no. I cannot use creative thaumaturgy in order to duplicate, for example, the secondary effect of space mage armor of applying defense against firearms on its own because... the exarchs don’t let me I guess....
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  • Okay but that isn’t what I asked. I’m not trying to give someone the power to use the attainment, I don’t even care so much about the defense boost. I’m asking if I can use creative thaumaturgy to replicate at least an effect one might see in a mage armor attainment, albeit not being reflexive and counting against my held spells, with the possibility of paradox....
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  • I don’t know if this has been covered before, but a discussion on a discord server was sparked by me spitballing spell ideas. I’m fairly new to actually playing mage and trying to train up my creativity, looking at the mage armor attainments it sparked an idea in my head that if I can conceivably do what is presented as an attainment at the right arcana, I could duplicate a similar effect with a full spell

    What would be the point of that you may ask? It isn’t reflexive and counts against my held spells if I do that. Yes, but I can also potentially up its scale and apply that...
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    Last edited by Lord Jub-Jub; 09-03-2019, 01:07 AM.

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