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  • I could not possibly agree more. In my games (I forget if I've said this already on this thread) what passes for a "Prince" in the Americas usually is barely qualified to call themselves an elder in Europe (much less the Middle East where they are even older on average). There's even a marked difference between East Coast North America and West Coast North America for much the same reason.

    I'm always fiddling with the details, but right now I've got 23 identified Princes and 16 identified Camarilla Elders over 1,000 years old in my games, plus 4 Justicars and 6 Inner Circle...
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  • Sometimes it's fun to just keep it simple...

    ••••••• Abyssal Skin:

    Shadow permeates this vampire. His or her eyes are jet black, without whites or irises. The vampire's vitae runs threaded with thin, coursing rivulets of shadow, as does his skin. By spending a blood point, the vampire may cause his skin to become almost entirely black. This state lasts for one scene or until the vampire dispels it. While this power is active, the vampire adds his or her Obtenebration ranking to all Soak rolls against fire, flame, heat, plasma, sunlight, ultraviolet light, or similar...
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  • Or.... wait for it..... wait for it.....

    ... a roll of the dice....
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  • Legendre
    replied to Actors and NPCs
    OK, to the extent that I've thought about this at all....

    90s Eric Bana as Jan Pieterzoon.

    2010s Clive Owen as Peter Dorfman.

    90s Gabriel Byrne as Marcus Vitel.

    late 80s/early 90s Ice-T as Smiling Jack
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  • II'll try not to repeat things listed above, but I don't think anyone mentioned these:

    Chelsea Quinn Yarboro books (the "St. Germaine" series) are actually pretty good. It takes some salt to make some of the mythology go down, and it's a little romance-y, but they're really first rate. I particularly like the three "spinoff" books about Atta Olivia Clemens. (https://www.goodreads.com/series/535...olivia-clemens)

    PN Elrod's Vampire Files are written in the noir classic style, with femme fatales and an extremely sympathetic vampire protagonist.
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  • I almost entirely agree. But I happen to think that Obsidian Butterfly was probably the single best book in the entire series. After that, it went to shit....
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  • I think you have to fill in the blanks -- even if it means doing a little research.

    Your theoretical readers are either going to have the knowledge of Los Angeles to fill in those blanks or not. If they do, they can decide to mix things up whether or not you leave "blanks" like that.

    If they don't, though, they're just going to be screwed and frustrated. That seems non-optimal.

    So flesh it out. It'll be rewarding for readers and, frankly, for you.

    (FWIW, the nastiest Malkavian -- and the nastiest vampire in the city -- controls the...
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  • The only "native" new world vampires in my game are the Brujah, and they are only "native" because a Brujah named The Wearer of Thunder fled the destruction of Carthage by travellng through the Borderlands of the spirit world to escape. (Brujah in my games have Necromancy, which is one of the reasons that they have the name "Brujah".) He popped up in the Mayan kingdoms, and was ultimately the reason that they abandoned their cities and moved down into the lowlands. So there were a bunch of Aztec and Mayan Brujah when the first vampires (Lasombra, as it happens)...
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  • I generally follow this sort of rule as well. In the materials I am developing for my games, I repeatedly point out that vampires who are considered "elders' in cities like San Francisco or Denver or even Boston are often nothing but glorified ancillae when they visit cities like Rome, Byzantium, Jerusalem, or Baghdad. And if you want to be a Prince at the tender age of 350.... head west, my son. But vampires have a resistance to moving... it used to be extremely dangerous, and it is still fraught with peril....
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  • Legendre
    replied to Menele vs Helena
    I always thought the whole charade was silly, and when I was playing regular old WoD VtM, I just retconned that they were actually Menelaus and Helen, and that "Prias" was actually her brother, Hector Priam.

    Not that they ever really appeared in my games... it was just one of those headcanon things taking up all the other threads lately. ...
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  • Legendre
    replied to Messing with History
    I love this. Is this just a demand change or is it scarcer as well?...
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  • Legendre
    replied to Messing with History
    I have quite a few ways I've altered the mortal timestream in my games. Here are a few that I find the most interesting:

    The most significant is that I've drastically retarded technology. Most of the world is pretty much stuck somewhere between "WarGames" and "You've Got Mail", technologically speaking. There is cutting edge technology available, but it's ridiculously expensive. Cell Phones are portable, but they cost $10K. There's no Facebook, no iPod, not even a Treo 650. There's no Wi-Fi in the coffee shop, or even at the airport (although in the Centurion...
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  • Legendre
    replied to Menele vs Helena
    <<MENELE ROLLS ATTACK>>: 1, 5, 3, 1, 1, 2, 1, 7, 4, 1, 1
    <<HELENA ROLLS ATTACK>>: 8, 10, 10, 5, 3, 9, 2
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