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  • Nail Eater
    replied to Rage Across Google Maps
    Hi there again. I find another caern worth mentioning. There are not many informations about it though. It's an old Black Spiral Dancer's caern, inactive in 1848, located in Wandsworth Town, London. I believe it's somewhere around here judging by description


    51.446042,-0.194150

    Source: Giovanni Chronicles III: The Sun Has Set p. 50...
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  • Nail Eater
    replied to Historical Personages
    Yup, you're right. I wonder if anybody ever created a list of them. As for matching the real world history, well... I don't think if I want to be mentioned as a vampire/werewolf/mage or something like that in history books it I were famous (with the exeption of those belonging to Sabath or something). Maybe we don't know something .

    On the other hand, as it was said in "The Fatal Case" (written continuation of "Kindred: the Embraced") "Remember, Hitler and Stalin were mortals"....
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  • Nail Eater
    replied to Historical Personages
    Yup, you're right. I wonder if anybody ever created a list of them. As for matching the real world history, well... I don't think if I want to be mentioned as a vampire/werewolf/mage or something like that in history books it I were famous (with the exeption of those belonging to Sabath or something)...
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  • Nail Eater
    replied to Historical Personages
    There's a lot of historical personages that were used as canon for different groups: Vlad IV Tepes (Dracula) as vampire, Nicola Tesla as a mage, Rasputin as wraith (among many others) or Vasili Shuisky as Silver Fang. Many famous people were used as some kind of "canon supportive characters" like princess Anastasia as Silver Fang kinfolk. Many celebrities were suggested as supernaturals: Nosferatu hacker Mitnick in Bloodlines or Andrew Eldritch as a Toreador singer (but I don't remember where). There were also many fictional famous persons which are treated canon: thrash metal band Spooky...
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  • Maybe we should try to reach the autor and just ask him . I don't know if all of the Archonts were created for playtest GC. Names of their sires are different, story of Embrace too if we talk about brothers D'Harfleur. And, IMHO, Federico is strangely powerful for a 50 years old Cainite. On the other hand Lilika was created to make a distraction so her Sire could escape, Federico Embrace was rather brutal, their Generation and Date of Embrace are similar to PC's in the GC and they were adopted by the Founders. Do I really don't know what to think about it....
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  • I don't know. I only know that many characters are mentioned in various books (or other sources). Especially the characters used as the examples of character creation (so I assume that they were used during play by the creators):

    Lord Albrech Morningkill - example of character creation in W20 and a signature character
    Stuart Brown "Stalks-the-Truth"- example of character creation in W:tA Revised Edition and one of the most famous Fianna in Fianna Tribebook Revised Edition
    Malcolm - example of character creation in V:tM 1st and 2nd edition and one of NPC in Chicago...
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  • I plan to tie those chronicles by Convention of Thorns. Embraces of first Archons are strangely similar to those of PC's in The Last Supper (particulary the story of Lilika and Federico). So I assume that they were at Giovanni's mansion during Founders attack. Plus, if some of my players loose his character during Transylvania Chronicles and I won't have any NPCs for him/her to join the coterie again (I usually don't allow my players to create new characters in the middle of the story) his new character will have to be one of Giovanni's guests.
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  • If I remember correctly ASC Games went bankrupt. It happens. On the other hand W:tA game for Sega Saturn ended as complete full version (someone even uploaded it somewhere so it could be possibly played with an emulator) and the support for Saturn was withdrawn so maybe there is a W:tA video game curse. Or Wyrm acted, using Tellus ....
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  • To create World of Darkness version of Bloodwars ?...
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  • You may be right about this blackout. The lack of information will make us think "what the heck is going on" so when we hear that game is finished our howl of joy and glory be so loud that the entire world will hear it ....
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  • Hope that you are wrong (and I don't like saying people that they are wrong)....
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  • In that case I propose Sosnowiec (Polish Bridgeport) ...
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  • So basically you just want to put an entire 1st edition metaplot in your version?

    If I was to create Bloodlines 2 I would erase the flaw of Redemption and create an adventure that would take the character from Dark Ages to modern times (maybe to Gehenna; and not skip 800 years). The game would be expanded with DLCs as chapters (just like in Transylvania or Giovanni Chronicles). Metaplot would determine the endings (sometimes by disabling the saves to use in DLCs; p. ex. saving Capadocius is possible but only to discover that he is plain crazy and merge the Shadowlands and the Skinlands...
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  • So get some money and preorder it....
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  • And I hope that this project will not affect Werewolf: the Apocalypse Earthblood (I still like W:tA better). And that the riding will be determinuje by the choices you make during play and not by a single choice like in Bloodlines 1
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  • Bloodlines 2 is officially announced. What I know by now: some of the developers from Bloodlines are back (Brian Mitsoda, Chris Avellone, Cara Ellison). Setting is Seattle and main character is a victim of mass embrace. Game will be FPP and will support mods. Some of the characters from first part will back (maybe some of signature characters also). Paradox Interactive will be the publisher and the game will be created by Hardsuit Labs. Date of release: about a year from now.
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  • Hey hey hey, part of your dreams just become true: Bloodlines 2 is announced. What I know by now: some of the developers from Bloodlines are back (Brian Mitsoda, Chris Avellone, Cara Ellison). Setting is Seattle and main character is a victim of mass embrace. Game will be FPP and will support mods. Some of the characters from first part will back (maybe some of signature characters also). Paradox Interactive will be the publisher and the game will be created by Hardsuit Labs. Date of release: about a year from now.
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