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  • Chris24601
    replied to Maintaining Humanity?
    Yeah, I had someone who started their PC at Humanity 9. The problem was the player’s extremely self-focused (Humanity 9 was ultimately because “I’m a special snowflake, pay attention to me”) so they ended up pulling a couple of actions that despite their conscience 4 resulted in a pair of botches (I’m using the DAV20 rules where the difficulty is the difference between the path and the sin... and these were basically callous disregard for human life with humanity 9 as the start point) and a failure.

    So in the course of three sessions the’ve dropped to Humanity 6, Conscience...
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  • Chris24601
    replied to Thinking about M5
    I was thinking the serious Victorian occultists like Crowley (a Hollow One per Mage lore) rather than the more modern pop-occultists.

    But the same is also true with the Hermetics. Only the hopelessly out of date are wearing robes and chanting Latin in the basement. The modern Hermetic is a lifetime member of some “Old Boys” Club like the Skull & Bones and is just as powerful pulling out their cell phone and running down their contact list as they are when they destroy someone financially by summoning up an electricity elemental from a magic circle of seven rune inscribed credit...
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  • Chris24601
    replied to Thinking about M5
    I’d further note that the Second Inquisition probably wouldn’t even recognize 80% of modern magic as magic.

    Are they going to hunt down Tibetan monks for following their religious practices? How about Christian revivalists? New Age sensualists? Kooky inventors? Wiccan groups on college campuses? Computer hackers?

    Maybe they manage to identify some Euthanatos, but not for their magic (leveraging karma isn’t really all that distinguishable from general spirtualism and luck) but because they kill things that are also targets of the Second Inquisition.

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  • First thing I’d look at is “Why did the mages choose to murder this particular vampire?”

    Because if they’re doing the research and risking the paradox to hit a Tremere in their own haven, it’s not just a random killing. Did the vampire do something to one of the mages or their loved ones? Did the vampire have something the mages wanted or needed?

    Figure out what the mages want and you might be able to make them your tool against enemy vampires and that is way more useful than just trying to kill them.
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