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  • Never seen it happen because pre-V5 the hierarchy of sins that even required degeneration checks was such that to even get a check to drop from humanity 1 requires PCs to voluntarily choose actions that most normal people would find deeply uncomfortable (in my experience even dropping below 3 is something few players are comfortable with).
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  • Well, since I’ve already built my own cast after deciding the canonical stuff in Dark Colony was ridiculous I have zero need for this.
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  • I’ll actually go a step further and say not only do I not use established characters, I actively overwrote the canonical vampires in Boston because, frankly, they were lame. There’s just so much history and culture in Boston that got completely ignored in favor of a Malkavian Prince who thinks he’s King Arthur and fights the upstate Sabbat.

    So I actually do things with the trade triangle, Free Masons, the Boston Brahmin, Harvard and MIT, the oldest subway system in the US, Jane Toppin, the Patriarca mafia family, the Boston Marathon, the Great Molasses Flood of 1919, the Curse...
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  • I think the main problem with cyclical Gehenna is that, as presently written it occurs too often to align itself with the turning of the Great Wheel from other splats, but not often enough to really be able to prove a pattern within recorded history.

    It’d be one thing if, say, the last Gehenna coincided with the fall of an Atlantis which was as advanced or moreso than the present day but collapsed literally back to the Stone Age so there’s literally no record of it beyond what the ancient vampires told their progeny. There you could tie it to the Great Wheel’s turning and the...
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  • I’m not a fan of the Cyclical Gehenna concept as it basically takes a whole chunk of the established lore that’s been considered canon for years and says “Psych!” No Father of Darkness, no Last Daughter of Eve… why even call it Gehenna if there’s not going to be a Last City (from which the Gehenna event draws its name) from which the undead will rule the living?

    If you’re going to nuke all that you have a responsibility to replace it with something at least as interesting. Even chalking it up to Millennial Fever and it’s still out there waiting is better than basically...
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  • Speaking from the opposite direction, I actually removed Generation from the available backgrounds in my V20 games and instead made generations 8-13 a series of trade-offs (7 or less were still unmitigated boons so there’s still the temptation for diablerie). 8th Generation notably had increased difficulty for the Virtue checks, gained only half nourishment from cold blood and no nourishment from animal blood. 13th Generation by contrast not only got full nourishment from the above, but also got the eat food merit for free and suffered less from their clan weakness (either half the penalty,...
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  • Never. I build my own settings from the ground up; typically with dozens of original NPCs.
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