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  • Samudra
    replied to Origin Level play
    Erm... You know Satyrs can just live down the street and own flower shops in the World right? Gods created the supernatural races, sure, but you know which is the most common supernatural race? Humans, which were created pretty universally by the Divine... Why would any random satyr or Jotun or Apsara think they're a Scion any more than a human, when they're all supernatural races created by the Divine? They'll just go about their own lives doing what they usually do (which can totally be holding down a 9 to 5 job btw) until the Visitation happens. And as I mentioned, that isn't even the case...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Origin Level play
    You don't... There is no Masquerade, after all, so why would you hide it? People are perfectly aware that Satyrs and Fae and Apsara exist. You don't even have to hide it from the human Scions... One of the Origins characters was brought up from birth with the knowledge that she would be Chosen by Agni some day. She just hasn't been yet....
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer: Scion Edition
    Yes, Scion works on the premise that the mythic is a known thing, since a Masquerade would be completely antithetical to the basic feel of the genre that Scion is trying to emulate i.e. mythology, where gods are usually not known for trying to hide their presence from mortals. That being said, most of the World knows about the mythic the way you and I know about organised crime... We know it exists, we may have some wild ideas about how it actually works stemming from pop culture, we may think it'd be really cool to meet one, or that their not worth the hype... But by and large most of us will...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Asian Pantheons
    Your Divine Patron determines a single Calling and let's you Choose a single Innate Purview that you don't need to channel... that is literally it, not even getting into the fact that you can change Callings over the course of play so even the first is not an obstacle if you choose to deny your Divine heritage. Where, in what universe, are you seeing everything being determined by your Deity choice? Compared to 1e's XP tax, 2e let's you be incredibly flexible and go completely out of your Parent's areas of power without any penalty. And this is all just in regards to Callings... you are ignoring...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer: Scion Edition
    A Mantle is a Specific Divine Identity... Ares and Mars are two Mantles currently being worn by the same God... Yama, on the other hand, is a member of 4 different Pantheons and has no separate Mantles since he's basically the same guy in each. The Shen have merged Mantles and given them to the same person for administrative purposes. The Orisha of Yoruba and the Goddesses of Hinduism constantly shift and borrow each other's Mantles as a matter of course. From what we know so far, a Mantle is a construct within Fate, built of Legend, and can move from person to person... You can, technically,...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Asian Pantheons
    Virtues are a pair of tenets that each Pantheon espouses, and which often come into conflict in that culture's mythos. Also, in addition to the powers general to all Pantheons, each Pantheon has access to a unique set of powers, which for the Shen Kami and Deva are Tianming, Yaoyorozu-no-Kamigami and Yoga respectively.

    I included the Deva and Yazata because a. They are Asian, and b. I'm Indian and Hindu

    All of the Pantheons have negative aspects pointed out, including the Kami, though the focus of much of the book is on making them playable while also invoking the...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Asian Pantheons
    There are three Asian Pantheons in the core book, the Shen of China, the Kami of Japan, and the Deva of South Asia. The first and last have been previewed to general acclaim... The Kami are only in the backer PDF. These three Pantheons in the setting have a very close working relationship and even share many members (Yama is in charge of hell for all three Pantheons, for example).

    Specifically, the Shen are a massive bureaucracy that are just as likely to employ Titans as imprison them, and have a working relationship with the current regime of China... They've even worked out an...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    Technically speaking, the Beauty Innate doesn't require you to spend Legend at all... It expands the category of actions that you can turn into a Feat of Scale, which is an entirely passive effect. Invoking the Feat of Scale is what is costing the Legend. And while this might seem a little less than the Epic Strength Innate, that one isn't as universally applicable... It won't help you with a ballet recital, for instance... By contrast, the Beauty Innate can turn any action where looks and body language can have an effect into a Feat of Scale... Which is, frankly, every single social action ever....
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    In addition to all the points made by people above, I'd just like to add that, other than the fact that it doesn't need to be channeled via Birthrights, Innate Purviews have no power benefit over Channeled ones. They are not somehow better than Channeled ones. So, even if Hephaestus never ever makes Forge Innate, he will still be just as good at Forging things.
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    Why on earth would you change Nehza's concepts if you like him? Presumably you like him as character because of those concepts.

    Nobody has suggested that at all... we've simply been pointing out what should be self-evident : That Nehza's Scions are not Nehza and should not be punished for not being carbon copies of Nehza... which, thankfully in this edition, they are not.

    So, again thankfully, I don't have to change anything to suit my preferences. You, on the other hand, are going to need to change a hell of a lot to get this system to conform to your expectations. Which,...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    To quote Theoi.com



    So yes, Athena does take after her Mother.



    Dude, Thor literally has Fertility in the book... his Title is God of Thunder, Rain and Crops. I don't know what else you need.



    Absoluely! Glad we're on the same page here Though Prophecy isn't a Purview anymore, so you'll need to take the Prophet Path or the Fortune Purview.



    Why? All you need to do is pick up the Beauty Purview... there's literally no penalty to using and having a Purview not associated with your Parent anymore,...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    Athena takes after her mother, Metis, Goddess of Cunning. Hephaestus has Trickster as a Calling, in reference to the times he's trapped Hera and Aphrodite in hidden constructed traps... guess who else has Trickster... his father, Zeus. Thor is also a God of Fertility, and his mother is an Earth Deity. Horus is the easiest... he has Leader like his Father and Guardian like his Mother, and he has Purviews in common with both.

    Also, you inherit some things from your parent, but none of that defines you... you have to start out sharing a Calling, but there are rules for shedding and adopting...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    The system that existed for Gods is not necessarily the system that exists for Gods.



    Horus is a Scion of Aset, Athena is a Scion of Metis... both of those parents were totally there and neither was born independently of them, so I'm not sure what the issue is here. Fenris is more difficult, I'll give you that, but we know that Scions of Inari can be Kitsune and Scions of Apollo can be Prophets... and we also know that Loki has some sort of Mother of Monsters Title... Fenris is also child of Angrbroda, Giantess of the Iron Wood, and if he takes after her more than his...
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    Eh, it's not that big of a stretch... Baby Hermes' trick with the cattle is something any Trickster could do at Hero. Ganesh battling Shiva's followers to a standstill is easily a case of Army of One, probably backed up by an Astra given by Parvati. Huitzilopochtli does take on the Southern Stars right at birth, but a. Again, Army of One and b. He's the child of a Primordial, so I can see that rule not strictly applying there. The children of gods do a lot of crazy stuff but that's by and large covered by Heroes already....
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  • Samudra
    replied to Ask Neall
    I believe the result is still a Legend 1 Scion. They just start Visited instead of having to go through Origins Tier....
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