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  • Davesknd
    replied to Simple Ghoul question
    No, it wouldn't work. Dialysis machines are basically very complex filters and the blood is in a sterile, closed cycle to avoid infection. You'd have to build a new machine from the bottom up to install a blood bag, have it integrated and be added to the patient. Also: Dialysis center measure a patient's weight before and after and 2/3 of a kilo added after the procedure is a big red flag for everyone (after all, you are not supposed to have any more or less blood in you afterwards). It's a cute idea though. ....
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  • Even if it's flat, it's still a condensing the full force of the blow into the size of a hammerhead. With armour, you want to disperse the energy of a blow as widely as possible and small studs are completely counterproductive. If a sword strikes leather, it loses power when it has to cut through the fabric's structure. When it hits a stud in the leather, it would just pushes the stud in, causing basically hammer hits.
    Studded leather wasn't a thing until biker bars....
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  • No, they are useless. The studs themselves would be weak points in the leather while hardly redirecting stabs and would make sword-blows worse (if the blade hits one flat, you have a stud driven into you like a nail). The idea came about when they saw plate/splint armour that had leather stretched over it and the studs would prop through it. This guy give a quick sum up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJiAxDeGlF0...
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  • "Time of Thin Blood" has really decent ideas about Caitiff, their alienation from vampire society and cool ideas like Cleavers or Dhampirs. The metaplot is bananas, but the rest is solit...
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    Great, now I have a character concept for a kawaii goth lolita! I hope you are happy! My next ST will hate you!...
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  • Because at the time there were two different, competing demon cults in the city, my character's haven had been compromised and demonism was the kind of knowledge that he really didn't want to deal with....
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  • I don't know! I never found out! Prince wanted me to get rid of her and we did. I didn't ask that many questions when she was throwing fire at our Brujah... There was indication that she was just demon possessed and she thought that she was a Baali, but again: I was more interested in surviving....
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  • My old Ventrue usually wore a beige trench coat to hide his stab-proof vest and, sensible shoes and sometimes a cheap suit. Yes, he dressed exactly like Columbo. He was made fun of a lot... at least until he and his coterie dragged the staked body of the traitorous Toreador primogen turned Bali into Elysium. It got pretty quiet afterwards...
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  • And that's why the quote is bad. Because it represents an outlier and not the mainstream sentiment of the clan. If you don't use "average" opinions, then you might as well not put in any stereotype quotes....
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  • If it's a specific character that is rapey or homophobic, I don't really care (I mean, it's a really cheap way to gather contempt for someone but whatever). But when you want to establish the mood of a whole clan, you might want to refrain form framing them as hateful bigots. And the way V20 handles the Ventrue just feels like they were handed the "designated bad guys in the Cams" sticker. Also I don't like the bickering....
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  • You are entirely right. Those are shit. Glad that I didn't play 1st Ed, cause that would have kept me away....
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  • 11twiggins
    ‚ÄčNo, it comes down to "Vampires cum blood". That's the lore and it doesn't matter how you work around it, if a Vampire comes to climax (which is a change I really don't like. Vampires shouldn't enjoy sex. Touching and sensuality, yes, but the visceral feeling of reproduction are gone), they cum blood. They could have just let this out and kept it vague like the eye-fluid, the saliva or where the fangs retract to, but the book is very clear and graphic about it. It is really that idiotic. And no, it makes no sense either that tears are bloody. Tears are physically...
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  • 11twiggins Petty bickering only tells us that all clans are apparently 6 years old. It's more about how it's said than what is said. Ventrue and genteel, Toreador use metaphors, Brujah cuss in Revised. In V20 all the stereotypes do is complain about each other as if this was playschool. I guess it's a matter of taste, but I dislike where the direction has gone with most of them. (Also: Toreador and Ventrue are probably the two clans with the most amiable connection. It seems really out of character for them to insult each other like that)
    And I disagree about Lore of the Clans. It left...
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  • Flanderization is when certian traits of a character (or in this case clan) are overstated in every incanation ( http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...Flanderization ).
    And you can't deny that this has happened. I am not mad or anything, it was inevitable, seeing how long it's been since the last edition and how many different writers were involved. If you want an example, compare these quotes:

    Revised Ventrue: "The guidance of the Damned is my burden to bear, not yours. You would do well, however, to ask yourself whenever your unlife is of benefit to the Children...
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  • No, they are not harming it. The primordial dream is the collective subconscious of the species' roots. It's the world as seen through the eyes of hunter-gatherers. Xenophobia, bigotry and the like are not bugs of the primordial dream, they are features (having heightened group cohesion when outsiders encroach, dividing the world in clear-cut categories, whipping yourself into a hateful frenzy before contact). The primordial dream at it's purest would be modern society collapsing and everyone sitting around the campfire again and telling each other of the giant monsters they saw....
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  • I admit that the fiction parts of V20 are passable, but the important parts, ie. clan descriptions are either copy-pasted from Revised or made slightly worse by unintentional flanderizing. I don't like that all clan quotes come down to petty insults and that everyone drops f-bombs and the like, just because we can these days. There simply was a lot of subtlety lost, can't deny it (mostly because you had to sneak certain stuff past censors back then and if someone said fuck, it wasn't a casual thing). If you want a proof, just put the clan pictures next to the ones that inspired them and you can...
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    Last edited by Davesknd; 08-07-2017, 08:05 PM.

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  • Davesknd
    replied to Vampire and vision
    Looks like I was wrong. Thx for clearing it up....
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  • I've only recently gotten into V20, reading the book at a friend's place and... sorry, I hate it. The issues are this weird lurid-exploity feel that suddenly crept in. It feels like everything that used to run under Black Dog suddenly had to go into the regular book and it really turns me off. Going into detail that vampires cum blood and how Diablerie is like an orgasm is just stupid. There is no poetry in the whole thing. And that's kinda my issue: Vampire was never a "good" RPG. It was easy to min-max, clans were horribly unbalanced, But there was a unique style to it. This style...
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    Last edited by Davesknd; 08-07-2017, 12:06 PM.

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  • Nagaraja

    Bottom Feeder (5 pt Merit)

    A strange whim of your blood did give you some lenience in your need to devour kine. Unlike the rest of your clan, who need the flesh of kine to survive, you simply need "parts" of them. You can live off ground up bones, body fat, skin flakes and even hair. To you, humans have an additional flesh-point that represents hair, epidermis and fingernails and devouring it does not cause them a level of damage as you shave them and rub down their calluses. Still, you have to pass a difficulty 8 Willpower test to keep the whole ordeal down,...
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  • Davesknd
    replied to Building Better Minions
    My last Ventrue was a really nice guy, so he had only friends and co-workers. I did manage to Ghoul a local mage because she was really into vampire lore and we saved her from a Giovanni blood ritual. So... just wait till you meet interesting people and be nice at them until they let you blood bond them?
    I'm such a bad blue blood....
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