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  • The equivalent terms in current English are"bigotry" or "fanaticism".
    Can you say "kill them all, for the Lord will recognize his own" for me? :3



    The first thing they taught me in high school history classes was that you can't judge the past with the eyes of the modern world - ethnocentrism works even when we look to different times, not simply to different modern-day cultures. We all know nowadays that there are no scientific bases advocating for white supremacy, yet the situation was quite different a hundred years ago. Physiognomy...
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  • I think we're missing a point here, though.
    Lewis Carrol and Micheal Jackson were known (allegied) pedophiles, Picasso was an abusive father and a chauvinist that said some of the worst things I ever read about women, Umberto Eco was an arrogant sack of shit, Walt Disney was a fascist and an abusive employer.

    But should we really say "don't go see Guernica because Pigasso painted it"? Had people thrown him away, refused to host showrooms or buy his paintings because of his behaviour, would this world be any better? Maybe we'd have condemned him to a mundane underpaid...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to H20 for 2019?
    Isn't an Avenger game all about slaying monsters with big rifles? =P
    But yes, I know. Still, they did M20 with the post-avatar storm and Wr20 after the Sixth Maelstrom, and those both event were pretty tied into the Gehenna metaplot too. In the end the Imbued Hunters might just still be there because the monster forgot to extinct themselves....
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to H20 for 2019?
    At this time, V5 has been a decent mess that several fans hated, so I don't know if pursuing 5th editions is going to be the best course for them, economically speaking. And we're talking about Vampire, the most popular game line amongst all the WW IPs.

    AFAIK Hunter: the Vigil has never been as popular as Reckoning, yet Vigil is getting a second edition this year - so why not a 20th for HtR? Personally I'd love to see a new HtR edition with more thematic Edges and better mechanics (like, can we finally get the distinction between aggravated and lethal damage?), I don't know why Paradox...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Liches?
    Right, I almost forgot about their Ars Magica origin XD Yes, the Twilight makes impossible to achieve true immortality there, and that was the whole point behind it. In the WoD, the concept of Twilight is partly engulfed in the Paradox one: as you become a Lich, you'll get at least one permanent paradox point. For every century or so of existence you'll gain another one (iirc the immortality rotes), meaning that a thousand years make you virtually a paradox lightning rod and two thousands might end up projecting you straight out of the Earth.

    Vampires can live forever with less immortality...
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  • Which part are you referring to? =P
    If you're asking how to not overlap with Expression once we introduce another skill like Diplomacy, I'd say: when you need to convey your message to others or make them see your point, you roll expression. When you need to reach an agreement with someone that understood your point but does not think it's the best course or believes your ideas will be harmful for him (or something he cares about), then you roll Diplomacy.

    It might not seem like it but Diplomacy would have actually a broader use, since it's about offering something the other...
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  • But that was my point.
    If we're talking about contested rolls VS truth of Gaia, then the gift offers a light advantage. If we're talking of simple rolls to detect lying VS truth of Gaia I just don't need the gift, I'll be raising the same stats and make do anyway with regular rolls that might also let my character realize if my target is hiding informations.

    Isn't the gift even less useful if we don't consider contested rolls? It only has the upside of denying their supernatural bonuses....
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  • I think that the main point is that Expression is not exactly "diplomacy" but a bit more like "eloquence". Only the most learnt characters have this talent and they only use it in very specific situations, because not every target can be persuaded through the use of a vast vocabulary or elaborate lines - i.e., for a persuasion roll over an average joe I'd ask for Subterfuge or Leadership, to convince a guy in the slums I'd rather call for Streetwise, etc.
    Also, for a Ventrue writing official documents I'd rather make him roll Law, Finance, Science or whatever ability...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Liches?
    Reading Dead Magick, my take is that the ritual requires too much individual dedication to be mass-produced, especially when you're part of a clan of magician but supposed to stay somehow isolated for a whole year from someone else's magick. Tremere wanted immortality for the entire clan instead, so they went looking for a different road.

    They probably got some formulas from the lichdom scraps but developed them around the power of the vampires, that were already able to use their own form of sorcery and didn't suffer from permanent paradox. The result was still going to be a static...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    I'll answer in a similar fashion: we've been reading two different conversations.
    (EDIT: Somehow Azrael thought I was talking about BR when I said "gang the cis male". No, I was talking about her behaviour on this thread and I want this to be clear, for the second time: I was not offending or criticizing Blue Rose).



    Of course! This is not an RPG thread.
    I mean, it has some RPG content sometimes since we're all gamers here but you should feel free to talk about anything.

    Speaking about clothes, tho, I'm afraid I can't really share your...
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  • Probably the main upside is tied to the negation of supernatural bonuses (i.e, pure breed).



    I guess that rolling 7 dice diff 7 rather than 7 dice vs 7 in a contested roll counts as a light advantage, but I believe it makes things harder at high difficulties: rolls at 9 or 10 have an astonishingly high botch chance while 7 vs 9 dice can still offer a decent chance of success. Adding this to its other limitation (detects only falsehood) it felt a bit unreliable even for a level 1 gift.

    Since we're already at this... the wording of the gift makes a bit unclear...
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  • Remember that there are still the Flux realms or the Wyld Founts for whenever the Wyrm needs a bit of a creation power. The BSDs are not the Pentex but I can definively see them working together on this...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    I was referring specifically to this thread and implying that neither I nor (I hope) any other person here is writing in a LGBT+ support thread to invalidate someone else's feelings or gender.



    Being a victim does not come with the right of bullying others. It should come, if anything, with the knowledge of how horrible discrimination is.
    Unless you want to the world to be hostile because of your personality too I'd strongly advise to not take your anger out on heterosexual people that had nothing to do with the ones that gave you or your friends troubles.
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    Last time I checked, being a Christian didn't make you an expert on God and being a man didn't imply expertise on human biology.
    I mean, feel free to talk about how you feel at any time -no one will say you're not feeling that way. But you can't just invalidate other people's ideas (or psych studies, for all that matters) because they come from a member of a different group - that's a known syllogism called "argumentum ad personam".

    So, I'd find it really great if you could be just a little less salty in your next posts....
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    Nothing to apologize for.
    I'm just used to nitpicking, but I understand how it might be easily misinterpreted by people that don't know me.




    I guess it's fine if you do, but projection RP has quite a bit of literature behind it. Not specifically tailored for recreational gaming, I concede, but I'm pretty sure I could find something on this too....
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  • Maris Streck
    started a topic Any reason for Truth of Gaia?

    Any reason for Truth of Gaia?

    I've been struggling with Truth of Gaia for a while, and the point is that I can't understand how to relate it with general lying.

    With this gift you're rolling some dice against some difficulty that may go up over 6 if you're talking to some consumed liar. But what do you do when you're evaluating if some guy is lying without the gift?
    You still roll INT+EMP, right? And the liar rolls MAN+SUB, so you have a contested roll rather than a fixed difficulty roll but the difficulties here should have 6 as a baseline for the both of them. So, why should I waste three xp to get Truth...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    I'm saying two different things.

    Firstly, that you don't need to justify your gender in general, why should you in a game?

    Secondly, that projecting (aka: RPing a character with your own personality) is naturally going to make you take whatever happens in the game on a more personal level. The similarities between the two cause the transfert of every offense your character suffers to you player, causing distress and suffering (usually light, unless some specific key themes are treated). This is how RP was born, but since we neither are patients playing out our fears in...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    And why would you need to justify them?
    You're also obviously going to feel some kind of distress if you project every time you RP.

    As for my definition of "better", a narrative revolves around conflicts and how the main character face them. I.E., in Aldis there is little conflict to be squeezed out of a character's gender and little difference in characterization between a polyamorous 6-group or a couple (you can always have conflicts between lovers, of course, but that's not the point), so your story can't use this as a plot hook.

    Not that you need to,...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    Hm. I understand that such a scenario might be quite soothing for people with gender issues, but having more social infights is probably better for a RPG setting.
    Also true that open polygamy is not a feature of many fictional settings, so it contributes to make this game unique....
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  • Maybe not.. but the skull pigs were corrupted for so long that now they have a skull for head and bear little resemblance to actual boars. I doubt that you could just cast a rite of cleansing and be done, it's going to take time to cleanse them (i mean, you can't even use the Erebus) and even after that they're going to need the time to revert back to their original shape. And since the chance of spawning wereboars between kinfolks is exceedengly low you'll need a lot of them and quite a bit of time.
    This is why I was talking about generational campaign. Of course this is just my take, but...
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