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  • Red Talons still hate how many animals passively accept man's yoke over them, but it's a thing that can influence Lupus-born Garou, tops (obviously, it wouldn't make sense for Homid garou to hate dogs). So yes, dogs are surely the ones despised the most because of how close the species are, but Red Talons also despise cows and horses.

    It's also true the opposite, though: because dogs (and all the other animals) can feel the wolf in the Garou they're going to become restless, bark and maybe even attack if they can sniff a werewolf moving closer enough.
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  • The manual though says that every Garou needs to be "willing" to move to the other side and one can't surely be willing if he's unconscious...
    I know that Grasp the Beyond is certainly going to do the trick but I was looking for some low-level solutions. I might end up allowing the passage through "leading the way", but I'd like to look for other solutions first.
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  • Maris Streck
    started a topic Moving bodies from the Umbra

    Moving bodies from the Umbra

    This has happened quite some times in my campaigns, so I'm curious.

    Let's say there is an unconscious Garou in the Umbra. Can you pull it out and back into the real world? How? And what if the Garou is dead, can you carry his lifeless body to the other side?
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  • Question: is everyone here absolutely sure that silver manacles are going to break under the Garou's transformation?
    Because as he changes form his body stops offering any kind of resistance to silver and it still would make sense to me if as the wrists get bigger the handcuffs simply stays where they are, cutting the meat as it grows and biting into the bone. The hands are going to be unusable that way (no tendrils), the damage is not easily regenerable and it's even worse if the chain was tying the neck. That is also not going to free the Garou from whatever thing he's chained to, so by...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Life magic and brain damage
    I also need to correct myself.
    The Mage Storyteller Handbook (3rd ed supplement) suggests that Thaumaturgists could be able to counter Awakened magic by "rolling Thaumaturgy" (I think they mean the discipline, not the Willpower roll) with the Mage's willpower as difficulty and counter 1 success on the Arete roll every 2 successes. Owning Thaumaturgical countermagic adds 1 success for each dot of Countermagic owned.

    The Handbook also states that you can't counter an effect you don't know it's coming, so you can unweave an incoming fireball but surely not counter an...
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  • I never really liked Eberron much, I have to say (I like FR even less, though)... way, waay too high magic for my tastes and at the same time lacking the wuxia feeling of Exalted. Their idea of stressing the setting genre characterization is probably good, though, since it promises to offer more different experiences. My favourite D&D settings always were Dark Sun and Mystara... and I'm not sure I want to see a reprint of Mystara after what they did to DS in 4th ed....
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  • Well, the manual is pretty clear in stating that's about the biblical quote though =p



    I don't know if I'd go that far though.
    They might still activate motion sensors and touchscreens and trigger any alarm they stride in while the Curse simply doesn't allow their image to be replicated in any way. It's supposed to be a divine curse after all, not a Technocratic spell....
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  • The main question here is why they have that curse and what the curse aims to achieve. Are they cursed to never show a shape other than their own or is the weakness specifically targeting mirrors (as if it could be if it was punishment for vanity)? I read around that a DA supplement states that the curse is: "Behold my darkest childe, who/killed with shadow./Let the shadows veil his soul, so/that all may know his crime."
    Should this be the case then they are probably not even showin an image on cameras and digital supports (and not even the clothes they're wearing: RAW is that...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Weapon of choice?
    Well, I see no issue if your PCs picked bad weapons, it only means that it's more likely that they lose in the battle. The Sabbat as a whole though should have some means to cause a wide amount of lethal damage (brujah and nosferatu) or enough aggravate (gangrels) to kill their opponents regardless how much blood they put on soaking. In 1965 the Sabbat still had Tremere Antitribu to pack some Lure of the Flames too, so maybe not everything is lost.

    That said, fighting with molotov cocktails and urban weapons is really Sabbat-ish.
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Life magic and brain damage
    I'm just saying that RAW not only vampires but even dead humans require Matter conjunction to apply a Life effect. I did not find a raise dead rote on 3rd edition core, but even there Life is described as changing a living pattern; and afaik, rule-wise killing someone is the classic method to switch from Life to Matter.

    M20 says:

    As a whole, this Sphere embraces everything that has living cells within itself, even if that object is technically dead. As a general rule, assume that anything that’s still alive enough to transplant, preserve, or cultivate is governed by...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Life magic and brain damage
    Only Matter won't work because they're not just dead: the brain is still alive-ish, proved by how attacks to their head do lethal damage, and the body is often storing more life force than a regular human (= more than 10 blood points), even if static. Only Life won't work because they're not quite alive: no reproduction, no bodily functions, no possible growth, they don't fit any definition of "life".

    About "just Life 5 to resurrect", I happen to own a 3rd edition supplement called "The Red Sign", a crossover campaign where a group of Awakened and blood...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Opinions on Rank 6
    That's only true in a Camarilla campaign. Sabbat and Independents have less to none social stigma for it and Assamites are actually encouraged to lower their generation.
    There was this guy playing in a game shop that once said "Oh yea I finally reached 5th generation! But it was hard, I've been playing this character for nearly three months!". So you look at him, smile and get away, because... well, kids be kids. Teenagers are all about dreams of power playing and feeling superhuman, but if you read enough by when you reach your thirties you begin to see how cheap is that kind...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Life magic and brain damage
    Thank you, I somehow remembered this to be the the optional rule. =p
    And yes, Life needs to be higher because Life 2 only allows you to rewrite your own pattern and you'll need 3 to affect others....
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Life magic and brain damage
    Little clarification on a thing I wrote: both life AND matter do half damage against vampires. For a full damage efffect you need to use them in conjunction (or set for a different Sphere).
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  • Don't get me wrong, my issue is not that people could feel sick or anything. My issue is when a person raises a card to ask to drop the current argument from the scene, if he raises a card and then goes away until it's done I'm fine - even if the ST could need to find a workaround....
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Opinions on Rank 6
    Gift of Power (Rank 6 general gift):
    Win the game. Congratulation, you've just won at Werewolf!

    There, I fixed your underpowered gifts. No thanks needed. And now I'm out. :3
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  • Aah, since he quoted the LARP part I thought he was referring to that. Well, it's going to be optional so I see no real issue, but I'm still going to rage at someone if I see red cards when I'm playing at a convention. =p...
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Opinions on Rank 6
    A permissive storyteller may let you find any power in the Legendary realms. But maybe you have a ST more used to draw yellow tapes on what can be done, and the ability to steal "warp reality" from a Nexus Crawler or some Time magic from an Hermetic mage suddenly becomes invaluable. Assuming you can survive it first.



    Gurhali can resurrect people with both a gift or a ritual (a level 3-4 one, if I remember) and there is no Garou power for that at all. The Fera are better at different things than the Garou, the fact that you're getting one of their most powerful...
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  • I don't think the reasons of my disliking of LARPs are IT here. But I'm quite sure that seeing a "no" cards during a LARP would be either a devastating turn off or a reason to complain with the storytellers before leaving the game, so it's just an extra reason for me to avoid them....
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  • Maris Streck
    replied to Opinions on Rank 6
    Also, you're using 2nd edition gifts and some have been changed, or just never reprinted.

    Unstoppable warrior, as said, lets you regenerate everything except silver damage, passive. It

    One on One has not been rewritten yet, but the teleportation it's powerful AF, way more than Rank 5 Strider gifts..

    Sleep of the Hero is cool like hell. Ok, you won't do much for your current storyline but you're paving the way for the Apocalypse, it's exactly the kind of feat I'm expecting from a Legend. It's distressing how fast you dismissed this gift, you could run a whole...
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