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  • Yeah - it's Supernal Entities the Pentacle have problems with killing, due to most of them believing it causes damage to the universe when you do so. That the Seers have a slightly easier time with Supernal Entities by dint of the Exarchs ruling the Supernal Realm is just... tough. Something the Pentacle has to bear in mind, and another reason why the cold war between the Sects remains mostly cold - assaulting a Seer sanctum with a Temple in it is serious business.

    Spirits from the Shadow Realm, the Pentacle has no problem abusing as long as it doesn't cause another mage problems....
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  • Arcadia.

    Arcadia is way worse, and more predatory, than Dis or the Inferno. Or even than Duat (at least the shan'iatu largely stopped forcibly turning humans into their puppets after the initial bout). It isn't an ephemeral realm, it doesn't easily map to an Arcanum.

    It is not a lower Depth

    "Mages are just calling it that because they're scared they don't know everything" is not supported by the text.
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  • Dave Brookshaw
    replied to Heroes and the Dream.
    This is, as far as I know, not Canon, but something another writer who'd never worked on Beast came up with randomly while talking shop:

    Consider Heroes as "Fear of Self".
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  • Dave Brookshaw
    replied to Heroes and the Dream.
    Well, yes. That's why Beasts draw the boundary lines differently (the Bright Dream isn't the Temenos - it's the non-fear parts of the Temenos plus the Oneiros), rename things (The Mother's Land for the Dreaming Earth) and ignore others (mages enter the Anima Mundi through the Swath or the Spire, Beasts go straight to the Dreaming Earth and don't seem to see a difference between it and the Sideral Wastes). The regretful part is that it took until the Player's Guide to do it, while Beast's corebook just uses mages' terms.

    Neither splat is incorrect. Mage has never pretended that the...
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