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  • Seeing with how low mechanical support for Hosts and their mechanical rules give us Night Horrors: Shunned by the Moon ( ) - I would advise Arcanist to put his 2E Host rules for the Storyteller's Vault. I gladly would add my NPCs examples to it - and make few more.
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to [2E] Hosts Questions
    2. What official Hosts we have in WtF gameline? Of course, beside Beshilu rats and Azlu spiders in corebook.
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Contagion in WtF
    Returning to the topic with interesting game example. I run my Constantinople in 800s AD setting. I have underground Cisterns system ('sewers') defended by Hunter of Darkness pack. And there I have surely rats population in area.

    Seeing how Contagion of the past in New Rome ( CoD canon event Plague of Justinian / Black Death ) lead to rise of rats and then decline - as humans were fighting the sickness and brought more and more cats to the streets - the rats survived in Cisterns that are now half-forgotten. Now, some of you implied possible cooperation between Sworn and Hosts. With...
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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic [2E] Hosts Questions

    [2E] Hosts Questions

    Introducing Hosts in my game after a long time - now with Night Horrors: Shunned by the Moon - and new questions surface to my games. Let's start with practical one...

    1. Are Hosts in one Realm - Material or Shadow - or both, at the same time? If Beshilu rats are gnawing the Gauntlet, they are coming from Material to Shadow ( or vice versa ), or do they gnawing from both sides at once? If Azlu is doing their web strengthening the Gauntlet - is it only in one of Realms - or in both of them, at the same time?
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  • Tribes in WtF are like Religion. Or, much accurate, Hunting Cults. You have your Divine Patron - Firstborn - you have your Sacred Prey and Tribes dogma. But also, if you really want, you can change Tribe. Being raised by two Storm Lords - Uratha or Wolf-Blooded - makes you much higher chance to be Storm Lord, the same same way that being raised Catholic or Methodists makes you to join religion of your parents. The only real legacy of Tribe by the blood or family - beside being risen in pack or clan like this - are Wolf-Blooded Tribal Affiliate Merits ( WtF 2E, p. 304 ) that marks yours family...
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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic [2E] Lodges Questions

    [2E] Lodges Questions

    So doing some setting building, come across some issues with now 2E rendition of Lodges. Few questions will spring from them, surely. To remind those not knowing, 2E Lodges rules are in The Pack book.

    1. Tribal Pillar Lodge with members in other Tribes? For example, I have early medieval setting and scholars and book copiest pack that works perfectly for the Bone Shadows and Lodge of Scrolls. Only Lodge of Scrolls is Iron Masters Pillar. Can there in Lodge be packs from Bone Shadows also? Or maybe, really, I should make pack the Iron Masters in the first place? On the other hand,...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to [2E] How to get Essence?
    Seems adequate...

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  • Oh, missed that in corebook reading. So even invoking Sacred Hunt for the pack is Harmony Breaking Point? ( Checking the Harmony section... ) Oh, it's Breaking Point only on Harmony 8+ - so this is why it did not shown in my games. Players are doing very imbalance stuff quickly, and strife to balance of Harmony. Well, most of them, as one is around Harmony 4 and having Ban already on him. ( Iron Masters Ithauer, of course. )...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to [2E] How to get Essence?
    Basically, yes. More true as our PCs 'patient zero' is already on Essence 0, so things will escalate quickly on next game session.



    More than that in Constantinopole in 800s setting I run. Queen of Cities is under Pure control - and even if they let Forsaken run things in lower strata of societies - when Forsaken are hunting spirits on left and right, I suspect Ivory Claws and Predatory Kings dispatch 'police' that will Siskur-Dah you. Pure are much more in friendly relations with Spirits Lords, in the end. And when Forsaken eat half a sprit's court, they Lords...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to 1001 Spirits
    In coming weeks I will fill out my 800s Constantinople setting Hisil with Spirit Rulers & Knights of those area. Here I have basic ideas I have for now – some guidance are looked for. I will then stat those spirits as examples in this topic.

    Cisters – Rat ( What kind it can be? Survivalist Rat? )
    Great Palace – Empire’s Eagle ( Pure & Assembly of Eagles Totem )
    Habour – Golden Horn – one of leading city’s spirit, great Golden Crescent from which flows water - & Cunning Seagull
    Hagia Sophia - He Who Suffer on Cross? ( Totem of Lodge of Roman Ritual )...
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  • Only that the Rings I was having in mind looks totally as Oaths effect - only it's limited to enforcing it by the items. Are not the way for Oaths or Laws to be spread by the items they are put on?...
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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic Will Scion 2E books get Kickstarters?

    Will Scion 2E books get Kickstarters?

    Will new Scion books get Kickstarters in coming months - or will they be directly sell when made on DriveThru? I ask here mainly on - Scion 2E: Companion, Demigod, Dragon, Masks of the Mythos, Saints and Monsters, Titanomachy and Wild Hunt? ( I assume that LARP Rules will be sold directly on DriveThru as niche product. )
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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic [2E] Non-Sorcery vampiric magic?

    [2E] Non-Sorcery vampiric magic?

    Is there a way to make non-magical Covenants to have appropriate magic ( Sorcery ) in theme? In Castlevania TV series Season 3 Invictus-like vampires makes magical rings that change your Oath of Loyalty in to slave making items. Is there a way for making something like that in VtR on?
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to [2E] How to get Essence?
    Would lower spirits - Rank 0 or 1 - be enough to sate Uratha? When most areas are under thumbs of spirits of Rank 2-4, maybe hunting low Rank spirits will not been seeing as too much 'war-mongering' by Uratha in area? It surely would not be Harmony Breaking Point?
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  • What about situation where Uratha's body is making go into Death Rage? Like I have Contagion in game that makes you lose Essence - and then lead you to Death Rage to get Essence needed in your system. Killing human in Death Rage then is or is not Harmony Breaking Point toward Spirit? I.E. Is 2E Harmony objective measure of Uratha's action - even unconscious ones - or subjective, of his own 'sins' he made by his own decisions and failures?



    On Pure side, Predator Kings are surely hunt any Oathbreakers as 'disrespecting the Hunt'. But would Ivory Claws also being dedicated...
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  • wyrdhamster
    started a topic [2E] How to get Essence?

    [2E] How to get Essence?

    So in my game, I see the Essence can become very large issue, quickly. How Uratha and Wolf-Blooded can get Essence? Are there any ideas beside those in 2E corebook?

    Corebook points those Essence sources for Uratha ( WtF 2E, page 100):
    • They can absorb Essence through the wellspring of a locus. In the physical realm, this means physically touching the the locus at its heart. In Hisil, this means devouring the strange bits of meat and vegetation that appear near the locus.
    • The Sacred Hunt rite, the Siskur-Dah, allows a pack to hunt and devour spirits in the Hisil. When...
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  • Can you sum up what in this book is?
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Real Life History controversies
    Really, it's 'just second season' of our Werewolf the Forsaken Vikings game in summer of year 800, few months before crowning of Charlemagne. Empress Irene of Athens is de facto ruler of Byzantium and here son is officially bed-ridden in palace. Unofficially, there are rumors Empress murdered her own son to take throne. My bloody Norse players finally got from Uppsala to Constantinopole. They come to seek solution for problems in Uppsala - showing of Geryo ( Spiritual ) Dragon from Eastern Europe in their lands - and heard it came from 'Greece'. On their way, one of them got strucked by some mysterious...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Real Life History controversies
    Elgagusto, you have some point here. Most of historian of previous generation - at least in Poland - say that Middle Ages were 'Dark Ages'. You know, nothing was invented, people were locked in their cities behind walls, religion was over present. And, partially, they are right. General population lived by that. Only the universities became the harbors of those ideas start by Greeks and Romans, that slowly returned to the world. In West, local Universities started to show up in 10th and 11th century, Before them, there were only higher schools build by Byznatines in Italy ( in Venice, Eastern...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Real Life History controversies
    I mean that most of what we think about Renaissance as period - have it's roots in 7th till 10th century Byzantine Empire. Let's see on the Renaissance main elements:

    1. Humanism - Eastern Roman Empire was known to sustain network of state run Universities. People were important for the state government.
    2. Greek and Roman civilization legacy - Byzantium was officially known as Eastern Roman Empire, and it's citizens were still believing they are descendent of ancient Romans - Even when they officially speak Greek and being in their and Asia Minor lands. Universal education...
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