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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Vampires vs. Werewolves!
    To be fair those are new-ish players to RPG ( they are high school students, playing 1 year under me as their first ST ) and Vikings Uratha were 'surprised' there are vampires in the monastery in first place. They had one ominous, unclear vision before voyage - nothing really directly pointing 'Here will be vampires'. But good to know anti-vampire Facet - will use it in our modern setting crossover also, against modern Uppsala Archbishop. ...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Vampires vs. Werewolves!
    Do not know what to tell more - Nosferatu vamps used mainly Nightmare to induce Death Rage on Uratha and attacked using Silver Weapons with Vigor on ( best dicepool was Strength 4 + Weaponry 4 + Vigor 4 ). Even then, Rahu declare using of his Facets that give him 8-Again on attacks and <Not remembering Renown> extra Health box, on top of Gauru Health bonus boxes. By being attacked by only 2 vamps like that he was mechanically 'dead' ( last box of Aggravated filled ) in second turn, but give him chance to survive if players will do something. One of two other wolves - both Ithaeur - asked...
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  • And it's exactlywhy more free form Seemings are so... Blessing ( ) from Rose's version. Sometimes just better story is Seeming forced on the changeling from True Fae, than his own 'I choose my adventure' ( even then 'my own option' is also compelling in some cases ).
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  • Which was one of the things I clashed with Hill's vision - because Beast ( from fairy tale ) was so archetypical Beast ( Seeming ) in 1E, it was shown that this story was main story for all of this Seeming ( like 'violante Ogres' story was another one ). You should not made as fundamental changes to the line as such between editions.



    Well, story not mesh entirely with CtL mechanics, but I would much more see Beast as 'undone changeling'. In 1600s, Prince was cursed by Enchantress ( True Fae ) to become Beast - and was cursed with Beast Seeming - so he, literally, acted...
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Vampires vs. Werewolves!
    No, it was make for players of Uratha characters to wonder if they should use Kuruth option. In Apocalypse, Crinos was totally free of restrictions - so anyone was using it any time, how long it takes. In Forsaken 2E, Gauru Form you can freely takes for few turns and then then you risk Basu-Im ( Hard Rage ) - risk murdering your packmaters. Yes, it was made so Uratha would be affraid of their own powers - it's in the most basic build of the game. 'We are Uratha, strongest predators of the world - but also most savage monsters. Do not cross our paths, as we cannot assure we will control ourselves.'...
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  • It's exactly the 1001 Nights. by years 750 till 1258 c.e. - cause, as I pointed before, from Left Hand Path...



    In 1001 Nights Era time frame we also get 'just in neighborhood' unification of Panscryptias and Keepers of the Word too Mysterium. Byzantine Empire 'is just around the corner' from Baghdad Caliphate at that time.

    '12th century AD: Pancryptiates and Keepers of the World Orders merged into one Mysterium in Byzantine Empire under Corpus Author that made hers Ascension from this event. Fall of Empire and Silk Road to Asia propagated unified Order....
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  • Instead of Cohesive I would simply use (CoD Rulebook) Horror's Potency or Rank as name for Hosts Power Stat, but that's me.

    To help dot those Hosts, we made with Mr Gone - a while ago - Predators sheet for 2E, for running Urged and Hosts with it especially. Maybe handy - or may need some changes by you.

    https://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/p...nteractive.pdf
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  • Re-reading Lily, Sabre and Thorn Dark Era - and just watched this year Beauty and the Beast movie - I cannot see parallels. Even if movie is set in early 1700s, it's just pass the Dark Era - even retrospective are in 1600s France fashions. And with changes to 2E Changeling - i.e. return of Seasonal Courts as 'default' and Seemings being more loose in definition - finally Bell can be Fairest and Beast being... well, a Beast.

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  • Okay, waiting then for something more substenstial than 'we are doing this' - or for pointing new line developer....
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  • We got confirmation on Night Horrors: The Shauned by Moon - we do not know what ( if anything ) will happen to Secrets of the Tribes.......
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  • Cinder, looking for your thoughts later!

    Wormwood, how would you replicate shapeshifting by Atavisms? I do not know Beast to throw powers from memory.
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  • Agree on both hands - WtF was 1E my biggest let down and you remade it into one of my favorites in 2E - Thank you DigitalRaven!...
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  • Remember that all that time Rose was main developer of the Requiem, looking over the project.

    So we may look even for 4 years for WtF as we are already 1 year past between The Pack and general OPP supplement production time is now about 2 years. It can rise even longer cause, you know, we do not have main Forsaken line developer to stir the project......
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  • That I like many authors writing stuff does not mean I'm glad that Werewolf do not have 'it's own DaveB' - line should be run by person knowing it and proposing supplements. Other way we end like now situation, with WtF setting 1,5 year without it's own book even announced......
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  • So Forsaken will not have main line developer guy, just many 'I will write one chapter on this' guys? Well, that's assuring... ...
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  • Not saying they were really good - it was quickly made mix od Charl's, Reinghalls and a bit of mine ideas, not really tested. So it was just propostion that would need to be hammered by at least 3 revisions and hard playtests. I easily can see this 'Hostile in Social Manuvering' to be one of things that need to dissapear from it in final take.



    If you look like this, than any Character Creation rules in CoD should be rewritten - 'We cannot have that adult's humans have 22 dots - in America we have higher education, so we should starts with free Computers and Academics....
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  • But looking for main developer should be before assigning books, so he could prepare to writing them - and lead line development. Also, is it not main line's developer responsibility to propose OPP ideas for next books in the first place? Like DaveB comes with Mage books ideas to you guys?

    We still do not know IF Forsaken has line developer now, even....
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  • And I want Innocents 2E to end with 'kids use different stats', as I'm really low on running kids only game. Best, from my perspective, would be to add kids special Conditions chain that limit's their normal stats, especially as fact is that in school we learn MANY things we later not use in life, that 'moves' to different skills in adult life. And as those are Conditions, they let get nice Beats for child character, more than adult character, but still using normal rules in mixing groups. Win-Win.

    For seeing what exactly I have in mind, just see our Innocents Fan 2E Update...
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  • So if Stew has mentioned OPP that he need to be step down from main line developer 1,5 year ago - Why new Forsaken line developer was not chosen to this date? I understand that new line dev would not start his own project till Stew's end his ( maybe ), but it's rather long wait to find replacement, don't you think? And we still do not heard if there is any new Werewolf developer. If you have company and one of departments directors leave - you do not wait 1,5 year to find substitution worker....
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  • wyrdhamster
    replied to Contagion Chronicle book
    It sounds very much as Dark Eras take, to be frank. Much more 'Points of Light historical settings' ( from D&D terminology ) than WoD Metaplot model....
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