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  • You are reading too much into it. Armour doesn't protect against lethal damage caused by Theft of Vitae, why would it protect against aggravated damage caused by Cauldron of Blood? It has never been the case that armour protects against all wounds. It only offers protection against damage from things that would actually be impeded by the armour. Theft of Vitae and Cauldron of Blood are not so impeded, and so armour is useless against them. Same deal with fire, though that gets explicitly called out as bypassing armour.
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  • Okay well, in that case it's pretty easy: Change the character's clan to Toread, then get the Short Fuse Flaw, and either Additional Discipline (Potence) or just Out-Clan Potence. There, done. With respect to Protean's aesthetics, you can just have your character manifest Feral Claws as knuckle spikes, which should fit right in with the whole brawler thing.
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  • Actual way in which my vampire coterie made assloads of money in the Dark Ages game:

    0) It is 1196. Our coterie consists of a Child-Vampire Roman Lasombra (Chivalry), Genoese Merchant-Princess Toreador (Tyrants), Viking Gangrel Skald (Æsirgarð), Spanish Toreador Artist/Swashbuckler (Humanity), Ashkenasi Assamite Sorcerer (Humanity), and Greek Cataphract Brujah (Humanity).

    1) Ally with the Greek Kindred of Constantinople against the Venetians, because they're trying to kill us.
    2) Conspire with the Tzimisce Despot of Thessaloniki to assault the Venetian fall convoy...
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  • Lys
    replied to The Inner Council
    Having superhuman intelligence isn't going to make a difference compared to mortal world class experts unless the vampire has enough of an interests in the subject to also become a world class expert. That is only going to be true of one or two members of the Inner Council. Moreover, it's a conceit of the setting that vampires are really bad at innovation. The's why mortals come up with all the inventions, and methuselahs don't have secret labs full of advanced technology. As a consequence of that any vampire is going to be limited by current mortal understanding of cryptology even if they have...
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  • Nothing is off the table for anyone. It may be difficult to get a Brujah to teach you Burning Wrath, but it's not impossible. No clan is a monolithic block, even the ones that try to be aren't, because vampires are individuals with individual desires. So if a Brujah wants to teach her friend how to do the burny fist thing, then she's going to teach her friend how to do the burny fist thing. That said, if you're going to go to the trouble of asking someone to teach you their Clan Secrets, you might as well seek out a Gangrel. Just compare the two:

    Burning Wrath - 15xp, Celerity 3,...
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  • Not sure why you want to make him a Toreador in the first place. Like, he's already stated as a Brujah, the math already works out for him as a Brujah, so why not leave him a Brujah? Still if you want him to be a Toreador the the math works out just fine. All you have to do is add the Shot Fuse Flaw, switch the dot in Potence to a dot in Auspex, and you're done. You can then buy Potence out of clan with your first 10 xp. Alternatively ask your ST for permission to start with Auspex 0 and Potence 1, since being a Toreador doesn't mean you have to invest in Auspex....
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  • Lys
    replied to The Inner Council
    They're actually called the Inner Circle, the Inner Council (of Seven) are the leaders of Clan Tremere. The identity of the Inner Circle is closely guarded secret, so i expect that only the members, their direct retainers, the Justiciars and Alastors, and a handful of influential Elders, actually know who they are. The rest of the Camarilla widely supposes that they are the Eldest of each clan, because of the Camarilla's policy of rendering respect to one's Elders, but it has never been established that this is actually the case. Most likely the Inner Circle consists mainly of the original Founders....
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  • Lys
    replied to Vampires in Space
    No, they used orbital mirrors to focus the power of four suns on him. There was nothing artificial about it. It also only killed him because they first weakened him with a bombardment of mystically charged neutron bombs. After he'd spent like a whole day fighting three Wan Kuei Bodhisattvas....
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  • Lys
    replied to Vampires in Space
    The Vampire Hunter D universe has a pretty simple solution to this: The sunlight weakness is a mystical property of the Earth, vampires who go to orbit and other planets are entirely immune to the sun.
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  • The Toreador Tyrant i played in Dark Ages called her ghouls Bloodsworn. Following on that theme, i think she would refer to revenants as Kinblooded. Because they generate weak vitae, but are still mortals rather than Kindred.
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  • Lys
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    Yeah that's more or less what i was thinking. The scenario as originally presented is patently absurd, but there's actually a good idea or two that can be salvaged from it.



    Unless they get some kind of warning ahead of time, they're going to inevitably become blood bound. If they start out knowing how ghouls work, but not the part where drinking a vampire's blood makes you obsessively devoted to them, then they will find out by becoming obsessively devoted, at which point it's too late to avoid it. Even if they do get a warning about how the blood bond works, all ghouls...
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  • Lys
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    You keep having the vampires act in bizarre fashions in order to serve the needs of the humans in this scenario. That's not how it's going to work, because once the vampires take over - and they will take over in the circumstances you've outlined - then anything that happens afterward is going to primarily serve their needs. Look at it from the beginning: The very first handful of captives in the early days of the vampire hunting club are going to eventually take over through one means or another. Once they have the hunters wrapped around their fingers, it's a trivial exercise to blood bind them...
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  • Lys
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    That is not what you indicated your initial write-up, though it is the inevitable result. Just a first stage blood bond and a modicum of social skills should be enough for a vampire to turn things around. Never mind what happens as soon as someone breaks out the Dominate or Presence. It would only take a few months at most for the entire endeavour to be bent to the will of their first few captives. Which means that that they're not a commercial cattle farming operation that does vampire hunting on the side, but rather a commercial cattle farming operation that is run to support a cabal of Victorian...
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