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  • glad to see i wasn't doing it wrong all the time.. still isn't it a bit wierd that the first dot of an ability costs more than the second? or is slightly improving something a little easier once you learn the ropes?
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  • was the current xp rating debate ever settled?

    from what ive been told back in the day in a supplement justin achilii revealed that current xp rating means"the rating you are currently buying" and that he had a different definition of the word "current" than every single person in the universe

    so,i was told that mage went in line and i see in revised it's even called "new rating" while werewolf rebelled.

    i for one(and everyone i've ever met) always treated the word current as what if fucking means.

    so..did the 20 anniversary editions clear this up?...
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  • well.kindred of the ebony kingdom isn't a mage book though. in mage it's quite clear that "science" works because the consensus says it does.
    also we also have a mage book :lost paths,where science fails in place like the empty quarter.

    by the way do you remember in which wraith book(s) i can find these rituals?-
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  • mark
    replied to Extending Life?
    with life 3 you add some decades to your life. stronger if your rating is 4-5.
    entropy 4+ can do the same.
    problem is you eventually suffer pattern bleeding.

    life 5 mind 4 prime 4(a translation of a dark ages spell) allows you to remove aging by using massive amounts of quintessence with life-giving resonance
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  • i was reading kindred of the ebony kingdom again and found something i had forgotten. african mundane magic. there are mundane(that is even vampires can do them) magic that protects against diseases that heals diseases,damage(better than modern medicine) and even blindness!

    granted it's not exactly commonplace but most people in the usa today aren't doctors either.
    so..if you take aids out of the equation.. then life back then(or now even in a few areas) may not have been that bad at all
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  • my problem with with using xp for appearance is that appearance(for the most part anyway) is not really a skill you don't train it in the same way you train muscles. plus in some cases beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. i'm sure there is some deep umbral horror somewhere that finds nosferatu attractive
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  • true but i didn't pay xp (though perhaps i did pay money) for having the local tzimisce do it to me...
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  • experience points for plastic surgery?? that seems a bit absurd to me. after all a tzimisce(to mention just one of the beings capable of doing it) can do the same much faster,with no scars,with greater safety and needs no xp.
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  • right i know all that but what does right person mean? my point is,a baby has no personality. unless they are capable of very powerful divination of course. plus people's personas can and do change.
    also(while not explicitly stated) it's heavily implied that the stronger the avatar the stronger the propability of awakening anyway. which is why the vast majority of sleepers are said to possess tiny (rating 0) avatars...
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  • basically an ancient entity that was summoned by the batini in the 5 century bc it could not exist in the world however. it shattered and its remnants radiated backwards and forward in time(more or less 2000 years to be precise)...
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  • mark
    replied to The LGBT Thread II
    perhaps someone made a post about it before but.. does anyone have advice for coming out as gay? specifically that feeling of shame and inferiority i know i should not feeling but can't help my self(damn childhool prejudices and school) it's particularly difficult for people ive been friends with since ..forever but are relatively anti-gay.
    hell even coming out on this particular forum called LGBT made me feel somewhat..uneasy
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  • plastic surgery and appearance rating

    so, assuming the surgery goes well by how many points do you think one should be able to advance on it?
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  • mark
    started a topic what was the point of the psychopomps job?

    what was the point of the psychopomps job?

    so..apparently the lack of constant challenge by the avatar was a bad thing.. yet the ixoi found out that" with psychopomps running out they needed to look onto themselves for moral direction"

    also what does"directed the avatars to mages " even means given the setting? people are born with avatars. everyone has one. you don't gain an avatar by awakening it merely well...awakens lol
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  • it's stated in quite a few sourced(or implied) that the wod god is a flawed(though propably ultimately good) demiurge. transmissions from the rogue council,revelations of the dark mother and propably more. plus the whole game runs on gnosticism
    the "other" is(IIRC) essentially the 10 sphere. or to be more precise the 10 sphere it the other'sface/manifestation. psychopomps are it's liberating elements while the malfeans are it's
    s destructive ones. this is the other that "must be reconciled with in order to bring ascension" which is precisely what voormas does...
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  • mark
    started a topic confusion about the nature of the one

    confusion about the nature of the one

    so ,i was reading time of judgement again(by far the most difficult book in the most difficult to understand gameline ever if you ask me)

    of course this whole confusion might be simply because every ending aside from judgement is to a lesser or greater degree awful(as in bad written and unthought especially for the most part in hell on earty)

    anyway.. so we know that canonnically the One is ascended humanity. thus the one(except as a future) doesn't really exist "now"
    now,the One is supposed to be the true god. that is, he is most definetely not YHWH...
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  • mark
    replied to origin of malfeans contradiction.
    ok,i thought about a bit more and i believe that the best way is tret this issue is to interpret the wraith historian's words allegorically. for instance aeneas can't be older than the shroud... given that he almost certainly lived after charon's death. it's just that the non existence of a shroud gave rise to these events and the neverborn were not "manifested" until then>??

    that's what came to my mind anyway.

    so perhaps (from a metagame perspective)

    the neverborn come into being or their roles at the dawn of the second age, they get broken...
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