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  • I would personally rule that the general rule in Daemonic Possession is superseded by the specific rule in Soul Stealing. Normally, possession requires a corpse, but you can bypass that requirement by using Soul Stealing if you want to keep the original body alive after the possession experience.
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    Hey, Aya was the one that said they feed their captive vampires animal blood....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    The problem with that, though, is that old blood, blood from corpses or blood that's drained and transported, isn't as nourishing as fresh blood (V20, page 278). In fact, the precious paragraph says that animal blood isn't as nourishing as human blood, so old animal blood has got to be almost not nourishing at all....
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  • BenjCano
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    Ahh, I misunderstood. Let's take that new assumption and run with it.

    This small farm's website will sell you a pig at sucking and then raise it to butchering weight, butcher it, and cut the meat for you. Let's go with the cost there, and assume that we subcontract to the farm to butcher and smoke the meat after the pig is drained of blood so that you can sell the meat and recoup some of your costs (and that they don't ask questions about the hauling and butchering of the meat after the pig's been killed and drained of blood.] Hell, let's assume a 20% cost reduction for doing it at...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    A domestic farm pig averages 10 piglets per litter and can have two to three litters per year. Each pig can provide 3 blood points, so we need to raise 25,000 pigs per year (2083 per month, 70 per day). Let's give our breeding sows optimal fertility and say she gives three litters a year, so 30 piglets per sow. That's 834 breeding sows. According to this data from the university of Iowa's agricultural department, it requires 818 pounds of feed to raise a piglet to adulthood. A 50 pound bag of feed runs you $15 at a farm supply store, so the cost of feeding one pig from sow to butchering weight...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Fearless Vampire Hunters
    A ghoul needs 1 point of Vitae a month just to continue being a ghoul, let alone fill their blood pool and fuel Disciplines, but let's just assume they're minimalist ghouls who can get by on one. Those 200 chapter members are going to therefore require 200 points of Vitae through the year, and that's in addition to the (365*20=7,300) points of blood the female Kindred need on subsistence level alone. Altogether, this endeavor requires 7,500 points of blood per year just to function. You specifically said animal blood, so let's assume dogs and cats, each of which can provide one point of blood....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Salvaging the Nictuku
    Ask, and some smartass like me will do as bidden:

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  • BenjCano
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    The Transylvania Chronicles and two Gehenna scenarios that beg to differ. Abismillard is a nuke-tosser and rides into battle in the wife pouch of a giant, mutated frog. Subtlety ain't his game....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Salvaging the Nictuku
    At this point, why are you even bothering to stat them out?...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    OK...so name me an Assamite with True Faith 4 or greater who will pierce an Obfuscate veil but who won't just wig out at the presence of a Baali Methuselah....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    Again, name one.



    Ummm......I can't ignore something that hasn't been part of the conversation until now.



    You and I define easy very differently.



    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about skin color. I mean, using your logic, Izhim-ur-Baal doesn't have skin that's dark like other Assamites because he has all these tattoos in his skin. The burning, the scarification, and the eyes gouged out ur-Shilgi has going for it are independent of the actual skin tone under discussion. Independently of whether or not it's burned,...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Salvaging the Nictuku
    No. But I wasn't scared of them before. I don't read horror novels, watch horror movies, or even play horror roleplaying games because they scare me. To be totally honest, the last horror novel that actually made me uncomfortably scared was the Shining, and I had gotten to the end and there's a scene where maybe you think that Dick Holloran is going to kill Danny and Wendy because he went into the shed....it was the first Stephen King book I'd read, and I didn't know if he was going to kill the kid after the false hope, so I got a little anxious. I don't play Vampire for the horror. I don't find...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines


    Except that you said:



    And it totally is. ur-Shulgi’s skin is described as obsidian in Children of the Night, and coal black in the Assamite novel. Coal was the same adjective used to describe Tariq in Children. Both passages that describe ur’s appearance mentioned his black skin…and the one from the novel doesn’t really go into him being burned at all. You’re reaching trying to argue that he’s a Baali in blackface.

    I'm so sorry about that one. I couldn't resist.




    Name one.



    Name one. Specifically,...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    You're right about Velya. I had a brain fart and was thinking of Triglev. Is Dracon anti Koldunism, though?...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Salvaging the Nictuku
    I prefere a well-defined, if disappointing entry to leaving things vague and up to ST/player interpretation and imagination. My imagination sucks, frankly. That's why a) I went into mathematics [/obligatory self-depreciation humor] and b) what I pay writers of roleplaying supplements to do for me by buying their books in preparation of running and playing games.

    As such, I don't really have a problem with the Nik as presented in DAV20. But if you must throw the boogey-men at the Nosferatur, how about this...

    [From a voice memo recovered from a water-damaged cell phone]...
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  • ...in that it can?...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    I named every one I knew. ...
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    Al-Ashrad is the only non-dark Assamite. I'd put that down to special snowflake syndrome myself. Or, if you must explain it through in-game terms, he was a mage and demon-binder. *handwavyhandwavy* Sorcerous blood something something something...ages backwards...Merlin syndrome.....part-jinn....somethingsomething....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    Etrius, Tremere, Goratrix, Meerlinda, Velya, Menele, Mahatma, Japtheth, Mictlantechuhlti, Baba Yaga, the Red Death, Kemintiri, Lameth, Helena, Boukephos, Montano, Elaine de Calinot, Lazarus, Xavier de Cincao, Yorak (pretty sure), Dracon (pretty sure), Nefertiti, and Seterpenre. Those are all the one I know about for certain....
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  • BenjCano
    replied to Lore of the Bloodlines
    Not just. From Clan Novel: Assamite:





    And before you go into "Well obviously ur-Shulgi was using Obfuscate to hide its appearance in front of Elijah..."

    No. He wasn't. He killed Elijah at the end of the prologue and there was no one else present in the chamber except the narrator. Either ur-Shulgi is REALLY committed to the bit of pretending to be an Assamite while alone in a cave in Petra, or he really actually is an Assamite with black skin, just like his character sheet and description and mention in the Gehenna book actually say...
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