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  • Leaning towards this one, you basically pause the present travel to the past, go do whatever you want in the past till the spell ends, return to the present,un pause and have to deal with whatever you changed while back in the past even if your not 100% sure what happened in the time between the spell ending and the present. Imagine if you were to go back a month for an hour to break up with your girlfriend only to discover when you return that you now have another girlfriend you dont remember meeting, but whom you must have met and liked in the intervening month...might be a dick move by a ST...
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    Last edited by totalgit; 04-25-2017, 09:02 AM.

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  • hmm, Its 7am and Bill and Joe are in a room, Bill travels back to 6am, and works out that he'll fall past his window at 6:55am he tells Joe to look out the window at 6:55am. Joe is looking out the window and see's Bill fall past the window, Bill see's Joe and ends the spell at 6:55 returning to 7am. What does Bill see? Where is Joe when he returns to 7am having skipped those 5 minutes 6:55am to 7:am? (Ignore the fact that joe is probably falling really slowly in this example)....
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  • Hmm, what if im in my bedroom, jump back an hour to when i was still in my bedroom, i then leave and climb to the top of a skycraper, jumping off just before the spell ends. A) Am i still falling off a skyscraper when i return to the present? (Teleported out my room to falling from a skyscraper to anybody who was in my bedroom when i left (the present) or B) i return to my bedroom, my past self plummets to his death leaving a corpse,ive teleported from falling down a skycraper to my bedroom?

    Either way i've moved?

    If you travel across the country from a to b during the...
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    Last edited by totalgit; 04-25-2017, 01:07 AM.

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  • totalgit
    replied to Awakening Spriits
    Yep, or even lower than rank 1 and just be a mote (i think they are called) if really small, coins maybe?...
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  • totalgit
    replied to Using Fate on Spirits
    even tho is says for psychic dominate resolve?, doesnt it then transfer to the spirits resistance, just like if it was stamina id be power? They get -1 dicepool to try bind a spirit via rank? Ive had this argument with my players in 1e, is mind controlling a spirit binding it? I said yes because theres no official "bind" term in mage and your using mind to "bind" it to your will?

    #edit nvm saw it in the book....fuck sake, mind is still OP, get mind 2 first then work on seeing ghosts/spirits......
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  • totalgit
    replied to Using Fate on Spirits
    I also agree that mind to control spirits is abit Meh, but at least the withstand rating for mind is resistance for a spirit and not just rank its rank.....
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  • totalgit
    replied to Awakening Spriits
    Im saying he can fudge how hard it is to awaken the spirit? If its already hibernating then it has essence 0 and corpus = size (house) + resistance (1-5) for rank 1, he then asked how to go about empowering it and just mentioned that house spirits probably have a harder time getting essence if theres no resonance in them which one can assume if its hibernating and was active before. If he wants to keep it around as a guardian spirit, he'll need to make sure it has a source of essence, or feed it himself? (unlike mor emobile spirits who you can probably leave to their own to feed themselves)...
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  • totalgit
    replied to Awakening Spriits
    Depending on how well the house spirit is doing at keeping up with generating any essence it needs, it could be rolling in essence. Since i assume house spirits dont usually move, they might also try to lure in other spirits to munch on, or eat any that spawn inside.

    A new rank 1 spirit id say it probably has to start feeding on whatever essence the resonance the house is, if the house isnt generating essence (new builds maybe?) then it might have to resort to trying to lure in other rank 1 spirits. Yeh not moving might make it tricky so id say it may not have loads of essence but...
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  • totalgit
    replied to Understanding Sympathy
    Thats not how sympathy works, you need to borrow/replace the sympathy the hair has to the person over your own. You dont use the hairs sympathy link directly..

    It could also be said and im sure there was 1e essays on this that items dont create their own sympathetic link being only items, sure they pick them up from people and have them by being what they are, but if you put two cans of coke together in a room do they form sympathetic links with one another? I dont think so.
    They dont share an emotional link, or a physical one (unless made from the same roll of steel maybe?)...
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    Last edited by totalgit; 04-23-2017, 01:18 PM.

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  • totalgit
    replied to Understanding Sympathy
    Its def two way but is it two different links? I think borrowing threads or web weaving to increase them and giving your target free links back to you is dangerous and one could run it that way. Mages would probably check their sympathy alot more and cast spells to lower their sympathy to something after using a strong link.

    The way i imagine it if that A's link to B is strong its like a huge metal chain, but its my link, B cant use it. B's link to A is weak so it looks like a hemp rope, but its his, i cant use his link and he cant use my link. We can both detect each others link...
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    Last edited by totalgit; 04-23-2017, 12:46 PM.

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  • Hmm, ok yeh. Maybe some form of space knowing spell will reveal the name in the pattern? the difference between knowing the name and not is only 1 potency anyways so its not like hiding it should take up to much of your time, shadow names are there for the yantras and stuff the fact they also hide your name is a smaller side effect....
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  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdraft

    um, have no clue tho....
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  • totalgit
    replied to Web of life
    The writing sometimes frustrates the hell out of me. Example

    It should really say something like "For the duration of the spell, the subjects fingerprints, footprints, traces of blood, or any other forensic type evidence is hidden from mortal scrutiny". If the subject did really leave no fingerprints/blood etc behind how the hell would looking for something that doesnt exist provoke a clash of wills. Its only a veiling spell after all.

    Word count might have been a cause but theres still alot of things that arnt explained that well too, if theres one thing ive...
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  • totalgit
    replied to Understanding Sympathy
    Only if you think sympathetic links are 2 way things, pretty sure they are one way.

    A's sympathy to B is non existent, B's sympathy to A is also non existent. A borrows a strong link to B. A now has a strong link to B, B has a non existent link to A still....
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  • As others have said the answer is no. However how would using mind work to find somebodys sympathetic name? Sleepers probably dont have that as a concept so using "psychic domination" with "tell me your sympathetic name" wont work while "tell me your real name" might work except for people who have changed their name later in life (marriage?).

    Personally I would not allow any space spell to find out somebodys sympathetic name, how does space pull information from somebodies mind exactly or gather information from bits of paper?

    You could...
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  • Does shrink and grow alter mass/weight? If i shrink my car down does it become link a toy car and i pick it up, or does one need to add Forces to alter its weight? I can see two interpretations possible, the car is toy sized but as heavy (in before it'd leave a crater or sommat) or its toy car sized weight and i can pick it up and put it in my pocket. Personally id say you need to add forces (2?) to shrink and grow for that..

    Didnt study chemistry but im sure theres lots of violent reactions possible from stuff you can find in schools so probably not that inconvenient?...
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  • Can a single mage use two of his own soulstones in the creation of a Demesne?

    Check!
    Check!
    Shit....In other words? Really?

    There is not other txt that implies its one stone per mage except that annoying last quote?...
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  • Further back than unchanged requires temportal sympathy. Occultation says it "allows" a mage to hide so one assumes the mage has a choice? As for shadow name id say it can also be bypassed by yourself as you know the difference between your magical self and true self....
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    Last edited by totalgit; 04-22-2017, 10:46 PM.

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  • Yep 1 for 1. How much has the player read of 2e? Using terms like permanent spells etc one thinks he also hasnt got a good grasp of it yet ??

    So its fairly easy for a mage to give 5 people +3 Intelligence, its only +1 reach to advanced duration and then base targets are 5. It'd require the +2 reach if that +3 made any of the targets go over the limit tho. Mages are powerful, remember using mind 2 and some +2 reach and mana, a praxis spell to get 3 successes and avoid withstand and mages can mind control anything to commit suicide.

    Sounds like you and him really need to...
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  • From all ive read it seems Mages and Demon are of similar power levels, the vampire however will probably be outclassed by them both compounded by only being able to work at night?...
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