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[MoroseMorgan]

Interesting. So the Greek theatre mask is part of the armor? Looks super cool.

I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be some Ascendant Battle Visage type effect and just took artistic license....

[MoroseMorgan]

I really liked the look of this and was scrambling to figure out which charm(s) it was trying to represent, because it looked so damned cool. Was there a set of charms in mind, or was this just their anima?...

[MoroseMorgan]

Well when you put it like that, I wish I had watched it.

So it's pretty obvious where Social Influence comes in for that scenario. For Leadership specifically, do you see this being a (failed) response to a Failure Condition? During Step 2 of Project Repeal ACA, a failure condition of "You Don't Have The Votes!" is introduced. Step 3, your attempts to bargain and beg your votes fails, and so does the project....

[MoroseMorgan]

Understandable.

First leap, for me, is going from an illness, which is a tangible thing, to something imagined.

Second, instead of creating something that represents a tangible, or now imagined, thing, we are creating that object.

Third, not only are we creating an object, we are creating an artifact, presumably with some magical materials also being created wholesale.

At this point it's just WST with less steps and drawbacks.

Bringing it back to "limits [sic] other people see on the Lunar Exalted", I was directly drawing...

[MoroseMorgan]

That seems like a few leaps too many IMO, but you do you.

[MoroseMorgan]

Could you summarize what about it really struck such a cord with you?...

[MoroseMorgan]

To me it is the difference between associated Auspices of Fate, and mystic associations. More folklore, less riddle.



Didn't say you had to have a knock down drag out brawl with someone's head cold, just confront them. A battle of wits and or wills.

If you wanted to go the physical route, which is a-okay in my book, it could only be tangible to the victim and the Lunar. Minor sickness and injuries would barely necessitate a roll, but wanting to weaken or destroy the final stage leprosy of the benevolent philosopher-king, that could be a real challenge....

[MoroseMorgan]

Also, when and how Willpower is paid. Usually when shaping sorcery, you pay the willpower up front, and only receive it back once you complete the spell. When avoiding the SM penalty for switching spells and intermittent casting, you also sidestepped some of the gambles/dangers of trying to get back your willpower on a successful cast.

Also, what happens if someone tries to use countermagic on the chamber?...

[MoroseMorgan]

Like running an egg all over someones body to pull the sickness out and then crushing it?...

[MoroseMorgan]

I was just about to propose the same thing. Wouldn't even have to be a disease. Any injury, pull out and form a living representation of this malady, and destroy it to abate the effects of it, or feed it to make them worse...



Maybe they aren't inherently fully autonomous and real to begin with. You pull out a little creature representing some poor schlub's syphilis, but that creature is limited in what it can interact with, and where it can even go to start.

Upgrade charms could allow you to allow these manifestations to have lasting effects on the surrounding...

[MoroseMorgan]

I think the fact that you can only take one shape sorcery action a round, even if reflexive, would limit that, but if you can dump and dump SM into the chamber I think a cap may be a good idea, and maybe even a visual description of varying levels of charge, kinda like how Brilliant Sentinel glows the more anima you have stored in it.

Also, just noticed, there technically isn't any way to reflexively use your chamber's SM right now on spells. Rituals usually state if there is a way to reflexively use their SM. Not sure if that was intentional, or if I am just being pedantic....

[MoroseMorgan]

Enduring Chamber seems a little "Air Breathing Mermaid" to me, in that when I read the original ability to Shape Sorcery motes directly into the chamber I didn't think they would fade, similar to any Ritual pools. Combined with the mote drip, the decay seems a little wonky.

Then I realized, the chamber doesn't have any kind of cap on it, which lead me to realize it doesn't matter, because once you get enough motes the spell goes off, and then I wondered, should this evocation have any effect on sorcerous motes dispersing when switching spells?

[MoroseMorgan]

At the end of Aladdin, Jafar the scheming sorceror is manipulated into using his last wish to become a genie himself, complete with being trapped in his own lamp.

You reach a new level of power, but you're now beholden to the laws of Malfeas, banishment, and binding....

[MoroseMorgan]

From previous conversations there's been some agreement that Celestial 3 working could be used to turn yourself into a 2nd Circle Demon. I like to call it the Jafar working.

[MoroseMorgan]

I don't think the ideas of Exaltation as Miraculous Event instead of Discreet Artifact and Inherited Mantle are mutually exclusive.

The potential for this Exaltation exists in the ether as a concept, not necessarily a tangible object, and this potential has a history that you now share in.

Although past lives weren't directly mentioned in Ex3Core, there is the whole sidebar in Miracles, so, confirmed....

[MoroseMorgan]

But RAW, you have to be an Ebon Shadow Stylist to use a Fighting Chain, so that isn't exactly an option for everyone....

[MoroseMorgan]

What Isator said.

How does Sephiroth point to the roiling mass of crazy that is Jenovah and go "mommy!" without us all giggling? Do that. Maybe less crazy tho.

[MoroseMorgan]

Οὖτις. Nobody....

[MoroseMorgan]

Turn the Belt of Shadow Walking into a Little Black Tie of Shadow Walking. G-man straightens their tie-knot, and disappears into the shadows.

[MoroseMorgan]

A Celestial Alignment.