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[Camilla]

Point conceded...

[Camilla]

In my personal opinion, V5 and the direction it took was a massive mistake on nearly every level.

If a hypothetical V6 is to succeed, it needs to be more like V2 and V20

And if you want a more mysterious street-level game with a more pronounced focus on personal horror and localized games, then play Requiem.

I find it ironic that so many of the people who hated Vampire: The Requiem when it came out for being "not Masquerade" also defended V5 when V5 basically took an eerily similar approach as Requiem and just threw in Masquerade's god-awful metaplot....

[Camilla]

In my defense, I just don't like Beast as a game, Matt's involvement aside.

The concept just doesn't appeal to me all that much, regardless of anything political. To me, Beast feels redundant because there are several other CoD splats that already fill a similar niche and do a much better job of it.

Politics and Matt's behavior are not the main reason I don't like Beast, although they certainly don't help improve my disposition towards it. If you like Beast, that is fine by me.

Beast is a shitty game, but only in my opinion.

So don't jump my...

[Camilla]

Agreed.

In addition to Beast: The Primordial being a very bad game on its own, the main creator of it was an utterly despicable human being who not only had detestable views on a lot of things, but more importantly committed horrifying abuses towards innocent people, some of whom were minors.

My thoughts on separating a work from its author aside, I would never purchase Beast because the guy who created it was a complete monster who did seriously vile crimes

(And even if he didn't do anything criminal, I still wouldn't buy Beast because it's a shitty game...

[Camilla]

Why do I even fucking bother anymore? Like I said, I knew I should not have checked my forum notifications, because I'd get dragged back into this horrible nightmare.

I hate Zak, but throwing a fit about his games (which are unrelated to his atrocious deeds) won't undo the crimes he committed. All we can do is simply not buy his works, which is what I'll do and what I have been doing even before this new information came to light.

I'm going to try and take a break from this forum for a few days. If any of you need me, you can contact me at either GTA Forums or RPG Pu...

[Camilla]

(sigh) I knew I should not have checked my forum notifications today....

I hate Zak Smith too, but all I ask is that we simply don't buy his work because he is a shitty excuse for a person. Even Charlaquin herself said this is the best approach, she refuses to support him and so do I.

I won't support Zak and I'm not buying his work, but I don't want to ban the works either.

You know who else burned books and banned or de-platformed media that they deemed "problematic"?

Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Franco, the Kim Dynasty,...

[Camilla]

Personal Horror Fans: I know guys on crack that make more sense than you!

Me: Really? Well, let me put it to this way then, cuzz!

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[Camilla]

I never played the game, so I don't know what the deal is with Avery and what Zak had to do with it....

[Camilla]

I've already spoken my peace on the subject and I want it to be made clear that I do NOT defend Zak or his horrifying actions and that yes, people should be aware that Zak is a scumbag

I'm gonna quietly withdraw from this thread and instead work on my Grand Theft Auto fan projects, it will be less stress and less drama for me and anyone else involved.

[Camilla]

Been replaying a LOT of Grand Theft Auto on my PS3 and Xbox 360, particularly GTA IV and GTA San Andreas.

I've been playing so much of those games lately that I signed up for GTA Forums and began pouring in a lot of creative energy into a dream concept for what would the perfect Grand Theft Auto game to me. I posted the link in another thread, but if you're interested in checking out my work-in-progress concept for how I would write a GTA game, I'll re-post the link here for those who want to check it out.

TL;DR I freaking love GTA and have been playing it obsessively...

Bruce Lee was the ultimate badass!

[Camilla]

1. Big Eyes Small Mouth/Sailor Moon RPG and Resource Book (Fighting Evil by Moonlight!)
2. Vampire: The Masquerade, First Edition (A Beast I Am, Lest A Beast I Become!)
3. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (You All Meet In A Tavern!)
4. Boot Hill, Second Edition (The Best in The West!)
5. Twilight 2000 (Wolverines!)

Other honorable mentions would be Werewolf: The Apocalypse, Mage: The Ascension, RECON, Pathfinder, Lion & Dragon, GURPS 3E, and Changeling: The Lost.

[Camilla]

I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, and let it be known that this was supposed be the only post I will make on this matter. After this, I don't want to be going anywhere near this drama with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.

As someone who utterly detests the deeds and character of Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, and especially Zak Smith, I'm still going to have to disagree with this thread.

I am a firm believer in free speech, preservation of history, and keeping the author separate from the work, unless the work in question is directly reflective of the author's...

[Camilla]

Zak S. is a disgusting scumbag to say the least. Always has been.

Sadly, I'm honestly not surprised by any of this. At all.

[Camilla]

I know I've already said it once, but I will say it again.

I love my little creative concept project that I've been working on and having a lot of fun with. It's kind of neat to write up and outline your ideal video game from your favorite franchise. Again, I will link the concept below because I have made some massive updates to it.
https://gtaforums.com/topic/924404-g...amily-secrets/...

[Camilla]

Good Lord, that is horrible.

I'd expect that shit happening in the Soviet Union, North Korea, Fascist Italy, Pinochet's Chile, or some other totalitarian shithole, but not in a country where people are supposed to have civil liberties and are entitled to due process.

Cops really need to be properly held accountable for their actions....

[Camilla]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, but I love sweet tea.

[Camilla]

All of the above....

[Camilla]

This guy gets it.

Seriously, I find your ideas intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter....

[Camilla]

I wasn't trying to start an argument here, I was simply offering an opinion actually relevant to the discussion of V5. I'm genuinely worried about whether or not Modiphius can save V5 precisely because NuWW listened to the vocal minority of personal horror fans and paid the price for it

Also, for clarity's sake, I said I wasn't going to discuss politics to avoid arguments, and I have not brought up any political hot-button issues in this thread.

That being said, I may have been a little too harsh and I will edit my post accordingly....