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  • Interesting image. The idea of a Guardian with at least a cosmetic similarity to vampires that they relate to has a nice feel when compared to other examples.

    Just a minor point regarding terminology: Mage uses the term Iris as a catch all for portals, and Verge refers to places with stronger qualities of the Supernal or Abyss.



    I don't recall that being a feature of Temple Guardians....
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  • This sounds like a pretty neat premise for horror in general and the Abyss in particular.

    If I can make a suggestion:



    Recently I watched the playable teaser of Silent Hills for the first time, and that scenario got me thinking about an observation I've often had about urban fantasy/horror, namely an overreliance on the idea that the dread things that lurk in the night will kill people. I feel as though there's a lot of compelling and unexplored space in the idea of horrific events or places or entities where the stakes are based on what people will have...
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  • I did look, and found no reference to the idea of vampires imbibing Vitae in that manner (the blood in the eye thing is a way to make ghouls, but I feel as though exposing a living person's mucus membrane in the same manner as they could acquire a bloodborne disease is operating on different principles to vampiric feeding). Still, the difference does not matter, because...



    No, not spit it out. I mean, depending on their posture, it might not actually flow down the throat (even if held upright to let gravity help, I'm not even sure if a throat with inert muscles can effectively...
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  • I'm going to assume this is a response to the line within that paragraph about whether or not torpid vampires can feed.

    I have checked back upon the rules, and with the overall presentation find myself thinking that the circumstance of a vampire with higher Blood Potency being able to donate Vitae to rouse the torpid early is the sole circumstance in which they can feed while out like that. I mean really, they're not taking it while dormant; I'd expect it's more the case where the taste of it rouses them, and they can wilfully consume it.

    Given that staking a vampire...
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  • I'm not clear if this is meant to be using the Second Edition Requiem rules or not.

    I don't really get the significance of Humanity to the equation, since that doesn't innately alter feeding options. Is it supposed to be an inference of the motivation? That a higher Humanity vampire would be assumed to be more motivated to find a source of sustenance besides humans?

    We've got rules for feeding on animals and rules for feeding on human blood that has been stored or otherwise not taken fresh from the living, but not quite an intersection between them. However, given that...
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  • I feel as though transformation into a mortal is contrary to some of the principles stated in the Charm, such as vetoing alterations that would render them helpless.

    With the idea of transformation around an Intimacy towards the Solar, I'm imagining that it's often the case that they'd become something more stable, disturbingly stable, unnaturally focused on a particular goal or way of being that will often be shaped towards something idealised for the Solar in question.

    It only lasts a few scenes of course, but I'm thinking that even when they change back the memory...
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to Artifact Creation resource costs
    Well a conventional item of the same sort is often going to be a good deal smaller for a start, so that might account for some of the reduced cost.

    I think it would be a fair idea for the mundane materials of creating an Artifact to be of a fairly high quality, and perhaps on occasion need some even more discriminating qualities or circumstances, so as iron stock produced on an auspicious day or something. The kind of thing that might up the price if vendors recognise that something with smaller supply is demanded....
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to What's your ideal society?
    Maybe the character in question could try to just talk to people and develop ideas with compromise and consensus, while building useful systems and institutions that will bring over willing voluntary participation.

    It's only a conundrum if one starts out with the assumption that the Exalted treat people in that manner as a matter of course.

    Jeez, look at the chapter fictions of Fangs at the Gate, for a start....
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  • In addition to what Satchel said, I would put forward that the depiction in various parts of First Edition often present matters including cultural imagery and occult ideas that might be picked up after Awakening can often form the manner in which mages form terminology and concepts for processing their encounters with and ideas about the Mysteries, as well as the symbols that they might form imagos out of. They're not empowered above and beyond those things specifically, and the culture of the Orders broadens horizons a bit, but it still often helps them to form ideas.

    Plus, the...
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  • Oh, for the sake of those spell calculations, I'd also point out that somebody with the correct Order and rote encoded with the right Skill could also get an additional die to the pool. With the suggested Skills that would favour the Arrow or Mysterium, but I don't think Crafts, Persuasion or Subterfuge are out of bounds as additional Skills that a Wards and Signs rote could be built with....
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to I wish we had more old-man exalts
    I think I get you. The kind of story where it's a person who seems normal up until something happens to it and they react in a manner that challenges the idea of normalcy.

    I do think the Caste books depicted some characters such as that. I think a reason they don't spread out so much across the setting is because there's a tendency not to depict Solars coming in upon scenarios because that's a slot they'd sooner leave for players....
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to I wish we had more old-man exalts
    Maybe. Maybe not. Conversation helps to smooth out those bumps to reach understanding....
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to I wish we had more old-man exalts
    Really, I think a person suited to Exaltation is a lot like pornography; the Unconquered Sun can't define it, but he knows it when he sees it.
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to I wish we had more old-man exalts
    This is the kind of thing that illustrates how the books have generally been less concerned with assessing the quality of the actions prior to Exaltation than the fandom often has been.

    From the side where the players can see it, it can be enough for the character to just have done something that aligns with the theme of the Caste, and then goes from there. The other side, the decision making process that chooses this instance of that thing over any other, is obscure to players and characters by design.

    Although I'd want to look back at the Caste book to get more of Sayn's...
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  • The "when" there was pointing towards the thing that had happened, not enquiring after something further. A "this is my characteristic" kind of statement rather than waiting on something.

    Look, from what I've seen there some interesting and worthwhile points are made even if I don't 100% agree with them, and... well you seem tired of that conversation anyway so I'll just have it in mind for the future if ever it comes up with another new person rather than speculate on future discussions that are fresh to me and exhausting for you.

    That's the best...
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  • I don't doubt it, but I was away from Mage for the best part of four years. I'll happily catch myself up when resources are pointed out.
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  • I find it a bit uncertain. In the list of general boon effects, the dice tricks are the only one listed with a Reach effect to let it affect spellcasting. But in Exceptional Luck, it lists a Reach price for just applying boon in general terms to spellcasting. Other spells that apply boons do not do that.

    So is it a case where Exceptional Luck allows dice bonuses to be applied to spellcasting while every other spell that applies boons is limited only to providing dice tricks, or is it a case where it's the one time that it lists the Reach cost for dice tricks and is meant to be read...
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to Exalted TV series in development
    I do not see how I have been anything other than cordial.

    I'm not trying to win anything, I'm just trying to express points and bring up details that might put things into proportion.



    Well this just confuses me. You brought up a Tweet in terms suggesting that you thought how it was speaking about Onyx Path was unfair and it getting savaged by the authoritarian left, but when I'm also critical of it I'm being a jerk to people raising concerns? I specifically said "I will not speculate on this person's motives", the complete opposite of saying that...
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  • Isator Levi
    replied to I wish we had more old-man exalts
    Specifically thinking through a particularly challenging cipher, but yeah, that's the kind of thing that can be accessible at a lot of ages. Heck, one could even do a narrative of a person only able to give some challenging passage their full attention in venerable old age, and it's the accumulation of life experience that allows them to interpret it, and the feat warrants Exaltation.

    (For the record, design notes for Arianna present her as intended specifically to be an inversion of the first thing people would expect out of a Caste of scholars and sorcerers)


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  • I don't think a Shadow Name necessarily needs to be famous, just that high dots in the Merit means you go deep into it when you're doing mage stuff. You dress it up, you carry yourself differently and speak differently, you act like you're a separate person.

    Note that in this case, the Shadow identity needs to be based on symbolism fitting the spell.

    Getting the extra requires it to match with cabal symbolism as well.



    I think time developing Skills can often go during downtime. In any case, it is possible to start off with five dots in a Skill....
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