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  • Nosimplehiway I'm sorry I was so defensive and rude, I was so certain I was going to be accused of playing easy mode that I just assumed when I shouldn't have.
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  • Kalendeer
    replied to Show Off Your Pack!
    One of our pack, made of Sabbat "Elders" who were embraced around 1490. The pack is actually 13 kindred strong, but only three of them are well defined and the other 10 really aren't "as equal" as the top three.

    Traiano de Corte-Real
    7th gen Lasombra on the Path of the Cathari, initially the descendant of an almost-revenant familly of ex-templar who held a very lasting grudge against the Pope and was fascinated by occult things and ancient Rome. The man was a trainwreck with bastards everywhere, loads of kills from duels, a short military career, a taste...
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  • One thing I noticed while browsing character biographies is that elders and methuselah don't really kill each others. They seem to have a tendencie to put their ennemies in torpor or emprison them in some way rather than killing them, while neonates and ancilla do kill.

    Apparently there's also a big age gap in the Sabbat, with elders and neonates being far more numerous than the ancilla age range.
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  • Concerning psychopaths and Humanity, the main reason I do not see them on the Path of Humanity at all is this thread: http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...in-a-sociopath (Irioth's posts are a must read, others not so much). There's very good arguments as to why it would be far more natural to be on the Path of Power and the Inner Voice than on Humanity, especially if you had any contact with the Sabbat.
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  • Yes and 99% high functionning psychopaths won't have this conversation either, because they learnt long ago that you don't say that to normal people. High functionning psychopaths, if they had a character sheet, would have high manipulation and high intelligence, versus your example, who is just the kind of dumb psychopath that make it to prison. High functionning psychopaths manage better in our society than "normal" people while low-functionning ones can't work it out.

    I assume than someone who would like to play a psychopath would go for an high functionning one since...
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  • Perhaps your problem is bad players and powergamers rather than Paths then. That Malkavian is just aweful, I'm very sorry you had to bear with that at your table.

    Anyway, let us not forget that Paths, compared to Humanity, are supposed to give very specific "vibes" to people around them. A vampire with Auspex may spot that the aura is a bit weird, and humans will either be fascinated or quickly put off by the odd feelings. Most people can't stand a psychopath once they know something is off. Paths are supposed to make interactions with humans more difficult, while a high...
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  • The way I see it, if killing someone brings more profit than any other option, you must kill that someone. If that someone is a nobody then most players won't care, but killing a beloved NPC can be quite hard on some players.

    Ex: You have the choice to drain someone completely. If you are in a hurry and very low on blood, killing the vessel is probably your quickest and safest option: not killing the vessel is a sin. On the other hand if you weren't really hungry and have access to Dominate 3, killing the vessel is a waste because you will overfeed and leave a corpse behind. Taking...
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  • It depends of the path, but in my opinion the Path of Power and the Inner Voice is all about having power, and to have power you have to think long term about what is in your interest and what is not in your interest. The justification works because a) the Beast is all about immediate gratification, not long term gratification, so choising the second one opposes the Beast, b) the Beast doesn't care if anything is in your interest, since the Beast is all about kill/feed/sleep. Going on a useless rampage could easily qualify as a sin 3 or even 1 since it's a waste of assets and useless risks and...
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  • I don't see how I am playing "easy mode" with this character (granted, it's easy mode compared to my Humanity 8 character who was utterly unplayable since he couldn't even feed). Stealing a pretty important plot from a Tremere character is very harsh since this plot was actually saving a tremere elder. I'll let you imagine the consequences for the other PC, who was already not very much liked by the Pyramid, when there's a Toreador archon showing up with his plot resolved right under his nose. Of course my character made his failure obvious, and made sure that the House knew that he...
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  • If the character is your usual dumb, low-self-control psychopath it's exactly what will happen.

    If the character is an high functionning psychopathe then it is entirely possible to spent your whole life without killing anyone.

    I'll give an in game example. Yes, the character was already a vampire at this point, but the example still stands.

    There is a Tremere in our group who "failed" in a way that enraged the character (he mistook a 8th gen lasombra with a higher generation, so when our PCs tried to abduct her using the 8th gen toreador's Dominate,...
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  • The TC provides in character proof of Saulot being the naughty one concerning something that happened millenia ago, so it's a proof only if your ST believes it (and I don't).
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  • My current character, a TorĂ©ador antitribu, was "born" on the Path of Power and the Inner Voice. He's also neuro atypical and a born psychopath AND is a Revenant so he's not exactly your usual human.
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  • Kalendeer
    replied to An embraced revenant
    I am currently playing a Toreador Antitribu from the Grimaldi family and he is awesome.

    He is on the Path of Power and the Inner Voice, a neurologist and psychiatrist who specialise in interrogation, with Dominate and Alienation as his main disciplines (he was a servant of a Malkavian for a long time before his domitor switched to Toréador and had learned a lot before his embrace) and Presence and Auspex as his secondary. He was a born psychopath so let's say he was never on the path of humanity !

    He happens to have three children he "loves" very much, since...
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  • Kalendeer
    started a topic Your PCs and the path they walk

    Your PCs and the path they walk

    I've found no thread in the last 10 pages or so, so let's make one about our lovely PCs and how they evolved after character creation! If you ever ordered pictures of your PCs or drew them yourself, feel free to share


    My first vampire PC was a Brujah called Ian. Since it was out first game, our characters didn't have much as far as background went. Ian was actually a Caitiff embraced in France in 1940 who happened to meet a group of Brujah a few weeks after his embrace and somehow managed to make them believe he was a Brujah neonate. He started as a fairly classical Brujah...
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  • As someone who would like to use a better humanity system and doesn't own the supplement, I would have loved this thread had it not been derailed so far from the subject :/

    Can anyone who owns the supplement give us a quick review of how the system actually works?
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  • For the Tremere, I usually play them with 2 in clan disciplines + Thauma. The 2 in clan are the one they share with Old Clan Tzimisce (Auspex/Dominate), and they don't have a third in-clan because they were embraced through a ritual and paid the price. In our game, another character from the Sabbat managed to self-embrace himself, and the result was infertile vitae, so there's basically a cost you have to pay when you become a vampire by yourself.

    But, you are going to say, the Tremere do have a third in-clan rule-wise... yes, but that in-clan happens to be Thaumaturgy, and I don't...
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