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[FallenEco]

I believe there was much talk about Relics that offered Boons when Mysteries of the World (Hero Companion) was dropped. While i don't remember a compromise anyone agreed too, I think that one of the better regarded ones was that Relic Boons 'occupied' a Boon slot. I disagreed then, (and to be honest, with you) saying that it is hardly a major issue and having the Relic 'eat' a Boon slot cheapens boons.
On specialized Purviews, i would like to note that while they grant 1 extra Boon, it is more noteworthy that they let you take specialized Boons, ones not otherwise available to ANYONE...

[FallenEco]

Really hoping that 1) the Welsh pantheon is in there; and 2) they get as much limelight as the Arthurian mythos in there.
Bonus points if the conflicting tales are due to multiple Arthurs trying to claim (and complete) the mantle.

[FallenEco]

Really need to get a "how to create a balanced knack" section in one of these books. It'd be all guidelines, but still, it would make my anxiety shut up whenever I try.

[FallenEco]

Emphasis mine, because I really wish someone had articulated this earlier. This is what I mean when I say it is mostly political.
Heck, some of the 'good' Titans are likely labelled as such because they make the gods uncomfortable; Rhea and Elatha are good examples of that sort thing in theory. Titan Callings, Virtues and Dominion Purviews are just the sort of thing prompts that kind of reaction from certain powerful deities, as a VERY general trend.
Gods still think of themselves as people, as opposed to personifications of reality, wrapped in narrative. Apparently it is rude to remind...

[FallenEco]

Okay, let's do this. I got my hard copy out for referencing purposes.

• Nezumo is found on page 79 of the Hero book.
• Rhea is listed on page 151 of Book 2: Hero.
• Elatha is on page 163 of Hero.

They are all Titans in cannon.

Now I am not in anyway involved in the development of any Scion products yet, but I do think the reason the Titans in Titanmomachy are so different is that they are built as potential parents, rather than entities players may have to thwart. I do think they should have Virtues listed and their (Dominion?) associated Purview called out, but Titans can and do...

[FallenEco]

I would not rule out Titianic Virtues out just yet, as they are used as a major indicator of Titan behaviour towards behaviour and negotiations in the Titanomachy book itself...despite the new Titans lacking listed Virtues and an attached Purview.
I assume that the Purview connected to a Titanic Virtue is this 'dominant Purview' that is teased in Demigod, but that preview is as of yet, unreleased. Furthermore, the denizen book ("Saints and Monsters" iirc) is called out in the first Demigod preview as having the rules for Titan Scions, so we don't even have all of that yet.
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[FallenEco]

This is very much giving me vibes of Flux/Inspiration write large. So something like Talent tier 3 (like time travel)

[FallenEco]

I'm so sorry, I know this has been answered somewhere but I can't find if;
What are the Teotl Pantheon path skills? My copies of Origin and Hero still contradict one another (Athletics Culture vs Culture Empathy).

[FallenEco]

(Winner gets a new Mantle, with fancy new Relics/Purview[s?] and maybe a new Calling)
Things is, if Apep/Aphosis are the same being, they would fake the fight (with real collateral damage) just to throw off suspicious individuals, until they could use it to crush Re.
The question is, were they always like this?...

[FallenEco]

I think that is Adversary, Trickster, and Tyrant combined...if you are a real Bas*@$$d. Drop Tyrant and pick up Lover if you have a heart of gold.
I may be playing around with some concepts, sorry....

[FallenEco]

I believe so. Certainly I feel the Titan Belenus would fight the God Belenos and vice versa....

[FallenEco]

Anyone have any ideas for which Purviews are THE purview of these newly introduce Titans? I'm not sure if they all should get one, but certainly the less blurry cases should lean that way.
Or which Virtues they may have? Titanic Virtues are based around a particular Purview, after all.

[FallenEco]

I'd say they are different Mantles, though if they are separate beings is still up in air. Of course, I also add Watcher's Revised Nemetondevos, representing the original (dead and shattered) mantles, making the Mysteries of the World a revival of the Pantheon.
As for Nidhoggr...he is not the only Titan in the book who also qualifies as a Dragon, though he is the only one called out as separate entity to said Dragon. Not sure if this will be explained when Dragon drops

[FallenEco]

Sacerdos is following the same line of logic I am here. The idea I had with the parallel Callings is provide ideas for alternate Mantles. Heck two of the sample Tuatha De Domnu Titans ARE Nementondevos deities. Even this book plays a little loose with definition of Titan. Remember, Callings are an out-of-game concept, unlike Purviews. Gods don't technically know about Callings, though it is naive to say they haven't noticed certain behaviour groupings. The Titan Callings are a bit more removed from a healthy human mindset (much like Titanic Virtues), which is one of the indicators I assume the...

[FallenEco]

Most of the Titan Callings have associations that can be drawn to 'normal' Callings, which can make for some easy-ish substitutions'.

• Adversary to Trickster, as pointed out above
• Destroyer to Warrior is harder, but doable.
• Monster shares more with Hunter than I thought, but is easiest the weakest link among the associations.
• Tyrant to Leader, obviously.

Primeval has no equivalent.

So if one needs too, we have some options to 'godify' or 'titanify' entities.
As for Prometheus...the sample born scion of his in the adversary section (NOT THE MARRIED COUPLE) kinda implies...

[FallenEco]

I imagine that Apollo might have absorbed the Titan Helios's mantle at some point, but I certainly would argue they are different beings in the World, most of time.

[FallenEco]

IIRC, the second Kane Chronicle book has the heroes literally carry a senile mantle of Re (and his Chosen) through that nightly journey, in order to bring Re back.
Because he was missing. So yeah, the World would move on.

Less sure about Terra Incognita associated with the pantheons. Personally I would argue that Aa'ru is a lot less sunny if Re doesn't make his journey....

[FallenEco]

There is more subtle nods to other pantheons in the Trials of Apollo series. A son of Shango shows up and Indra gets a mention.

[FallenEco]

I disagree...it was the Roman gods trying to take the Gaulic(?) mantles for themselves...

[FallenEco]

There do seem to be a lot o get people sharing certain identities running around. Lots of mantles being separated from origin and being taken on by different entities.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

I am disappointed by the lack of mention of Titanic Virtues, but given you can't play as an actual Titan yet, they may be holding on to that for Scion: God.
Still I am enjoying it.