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  • Possessed
    replied to Going Forward with Darkness
    Both lines have their strengths like said above. WoD can offer somethings CoD cannot and vise versa. Wraith for example has no equal in either line and it alone is worth staying with WoD. Personally I go with both CoD and WoD. Rules wise it is a matter of opinion thing, I like CoD 2nd ed rules but disliked 1st ed and converted what I wanted from (back then nWoD) to WoD system.

    Metaplot as said above is a strength, and weakness, of WoD but the games are just as good even with minimal metaplot involvement, I tend to only use it as background and history for example.

    CoD’s...
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  • Checked Becketts...

    They do have a pool of 10 Blood... I wonder if the writer knew of the changes to Revenants though. Like said they used to mirror each other on most rules but this is a huge disparity here. A difference of 8 points in Blood pool sizes is ridiculous.
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  • V20 core has rules up to 15th gen and no rules at all for Dhampirs. Revenants & Ghouls has nothing on them either, but it (and the core) has changed rules on Revenants dropping their bloodpool from 10 to 2 so why wouldn’t the same be true of Dhampirs?

    Or does Becket’s Journal give them a full 10 point pool? Can’t remember but considering their rules have always mirrored the Revenants it would be odd for them to have 10 point pool of usable Blood. Especially since even the Generations loose Blood pool 16th at 4 it would be reasonable to assume Dhampirs would have the pool...
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  • monteparnas beat me to it, but yeah by RAW Bedlam is tied to your Nightmare Dice and you get those from a straight week spend in a Freehold/Dreaming, by botching a Cantrip and through Unleashing.

    My last C20 game was almost entirely in the Dreaming, though it did begin in the Autumn world but even there it was mostly Fae business, and Bedlam was only issue/danger for one player but he was a bit more liberal with the Unleashings than the rest of the group.
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  • Besides, it is up to each individual ST to decide how much emphasis they put on your human side. For example the Sidhe, who tend to live in Freeholds to avoid aging and Banality, sometimes only barely care for their human sides as is and focus more on Fae matters. Chronicles that are either set in the Dreaming, or that lean heavily towards Dreaming and Chimerical side of things, can ignore the human side almost entirely. It all depends on the mood you want. CtD can be played with heavy leaning to the human side which brings it’s own kinds of stories, about Banality versus Glamour and people...
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  • Possessed
    replied to What If ?
    Setites would likely be more at loss without their Dark God and the possibility of his ascension, though religions generally have no need for proof so even that might work out the same in the end.
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  • Possessed
    replied to What If ?
    Sabbat would likely have formed anyway based around the Ritae, Vinculum being still the most important, and they would rebel and war against the Elders who ruled through bloodbonds and against the Camarilla which is an organization of Elder puppets (as far as the Sabbat is conserned).

    Tremere would likely still survive though they might have had a rougher but even without an Antediluvian they still had Mastery of Blood magics to offer in exchange of alliances formed.

    The Giovanni would have diablerized Cappadocian Methuselahs but they might not have such a clear victory...
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  • My biggest problem with the final metaplot changes before VtM ended again, V5 is as much of it’s own thing from VtM as Requiem, was the Assamite Schismatics joining the Camarilla. Sure Ur’Shulgi persecutes them for clinging to religion born thousand years after his embrace but still to run to the people who cursed you for hundreds of years and that those people who cursed you because that was the only way to stop you from trying to Diablerize everyone would accept you amongst them... it simply makes no sense at all.
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  • I think we just have to agree to disagree. First of all, yes Malkavians are good for information if you can trust information coming from a madman that just might have hallucinated the whole thing. Nosferatu on the other hand are trustworthy providers of information but that information is gonna cost you, and they are not of your blood and thus can you really rely on them (well the Ventrue need to since they aren’t that good at this), the Giovanni do hold a lot of information, enough so to avoid getting into a war with anyone and staying independent despite basically destroying a High Clan,...
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  • You got this so totally mixed up... the Metamorphosists are those antisocial hobbiest you describe and they are far from being the average Tzimisce. They may be the coolest thing in VtM but they do not represent your average member of the Clan. This is true of both modern day and dark ages. Back in the dark medieval the average Tzimisce was a feudal overlord with an extensive web of Ghouls, Childer and Revenants at their beck and call, they are the masters of the blood bond for a reason. In the modern day Sabbat the average Tzimisce is more often either the Pack Priest, and thus the spiritual...
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  • Possessed
    replied to How to approach C20?
    For anyone new to Changeling or just returning to it after a long while, or even new to rpg's in general, just pick up C20, it has everything needed presented in clear manner and the ruleswise C20 is the best edition there is.
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  • And yes like monteparnas mentioned this does not break the Lore. There is a Garou with cybernetic Arms and torso in the cover of the Book of the Weaver. And as mentioned this is exactly what the CyberDogs are all about.
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  • Book of the Weaver is your friend here. I would suggest building your Bionics/Cybernetics with the Fetishes found there. Remember that it needs to be able to change with you which makes it cost double, or rather halves the benefits. Also remember that circumventing your Metis deformity this way is a cause for great Honor loss.

    This is also a good way towards hearing the One Song and falling completely to the Weaver.

    And like Dogstar mentioned some of the more foolish Garou could easily mistake such a character for a Wyrm beast but anyone with a little more connections...
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  • Possessed
    replied to Candyman 2021
    Well actually the bees, as they can affect the living (and likely the dead as well), sound a lot more like Wylding (aka Pandemonium) which can manifest bugs and critters or even bug swarms that form hands to strangle or faces to speak Etc.

    Hook hands could be plenty of things, Relics (if he had them when living), Artifacts (if they have been Soulforged for him, scary by the way since then they could be dealing Agg), Molieted blades or even Shade powers if he were a Shade though he seems more lucid and collected than a Shade would be....
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  • I think there is plenty of room for both Changelings and Hsien in the WoD, for the most part both will stay I their own circles anyway. Personally I am rather pleased C20 didn’t take the V20 way of ignoring, and thus not updating, a gameline that many people still play and love, especially since KotE is the most crossover friendly WoD game there is.

    Here is my solution for KotE btw. It would deserve to get a 20th anniversary edition of itke own.
    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...083-i-think-ko...
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  • I usually portray them as humans with animal features that clearly show what their animal nature is but not going to actual furry territory. This can be affected by Merits/Flaws taken by the Pooka’s player. Pretty much like the official art in Kithbook: Pooka, especially those drawn by Melissa Uran.
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