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  • Possessed
    replied to Changelings and Demons
    I tend to kinda agree with zenten. The Fae and Demons are incompatible in a way, meaning that their facts about existence tend to conflict. Devil's Due, basically Dark Ages Demon, had a some information on how it would match to DA:Fae, which I have since then used as a basic guideline.

    In DD it's basically said that the Demons do not remember creating the Fae nor that they even existence during the rebellion which immediately makes them stand out. Are they beings created by the Host after the rebellion or beings brought here from another world created by the divine or most worrisomely...
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  • Personally I think that the C20 rules on Mists, the ones on p.270, could just replace previous rules on Forgetting. No need to overcomplicate things. And similarly I do think that the C20 rules on Chimerical death are quite enough, I always thought that permanent Banality was a bit too much considering all the other effects of Chimerical death so this is a welcome change for me.
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  • This is exactly why, in previous editions especially (though useful still in C20 aswell), I always advocated players to take Prop as even though you couldn't affect the mortal, or prodigal, enemy you could just target his/her gun, clothes, car or just something else closeby that could be used against them with creative cantrips. Similarly that is why Fae is also a must so that you can affect yourself though sometimes that simply is not enough....
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  • Wasn't an insult. More of statement of the obvious in an ironic manner. I even included an acknowledgement of validity of a differing opinion within my last sentence.

    If you took my statement as an insult I do apologize....
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  • How Banal can CtD players be if they wish to limit possibilities and eliminate diversion in the world by removing whole species of beings?

    But each to his/her own I guess....
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    Last edited by Possessed; 07-09-2017, 09:16 AM.

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  • I do understand but then again if the crossover splats are meant to be NPC's you can either use their own systems, if familiar with them as they only work on the background only you need to be aware of them so no confusion for new players, or the systems given for them in C20, if not familiar with the splats in question.


    I do understand the sentiment as we have woefully little details on Fae-prodical relations especially with the factions most suited to such things. More information on House Merinita in general, House Fiona and Fianna tribe's relations beyond off-hand mentions...
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  • Personally I've never had any troubles with crossovers, mixed PC's or just using NPC's of different lines, usually the greatest difficulties come from crossing wraiths with anything since they are usually within another realm of existence but even that can be done.

    That aside the four factions, or elements, that Mages are presented in the story of changeling core, 2nd edition core that is, align with the four Avatar essences. 3 of which align with the 3 core concepts of WoDs basic forces Dynamism, Stasis and Entrophy also known as Wyld, Weaver and Wyrm the fourth is the Questing Essence....
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  • The Realms. Well you should always take at least enough Fae to affect yourself, one is enough if your a Commoner and two if your a Sidhe, and then Prop is a rather useful general Realm as you can use it to circumvent your limitations when it comes to affecting anything non-Fae. This is due to Actor realm limiting you to mostly dear friends while even one dot in Prop allows you to attack them by using nearby objects, or even their own clothing.

    Glamour is something you should consider as well since, especially if using 2nd edition, everything from most birthrights, cantrips, enchantment...
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  • Possessed
    replied to Unleashing
    So you would like to make Unleashings cost more, be more difficult to perform and to have greater consequences for failing.... My only question is that if you are so opposed to the concept why not just remove it completely and play the game just using the Cantrip system as was the case in previous editions? Wouldn't that be easier?

    But then again Unleashings are the one thing I loved the most in DA: Fae which just goes to show us how much YMMV.
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  • Yes, but on the other hand instilling feelings of adoration and respect sufficient to prevent others from acting against you is in other games considered powerful enough to be placed at level 5 for an example see Majesty.

    Fae are just better known for enchanting people into adoration than for commanding them directly. Do not forget that Sovereign is a noble art and as such in a way Sidhe art. The Sidhe as nobility are all about being so glorious that they are obeyed not because they overtake your mind, like some lowly vampire, but because they are too magnificent to disobey. That...
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  • Possessed
    replied to Reincarnations and Oaths
    Yeah, I did have vague remembrance of something of this sort but couldn't remember where. So thanks, mate.
    The flaw can be found on p.65 of Kithbook: Trolls and is called Arcadian/Ancient Oath (2-5 point flaw). The Idea there is that you are bound by an Oath obscured by the Mists.

    But again the point remains that such Ancient Oaths coming to fore is a matter of story first and foremost....
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  • Possessed
    replied to Reincarnations and Oaths
    I think this sentence is the perfect summarisation of the whole issue.

    Like said the Oath is dormant untill the still living party of the Oath reminds the reincarnated one of his past ties....
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  • Possessed
    replied to Reincarnations and Oaths
    My take on the matter is simply, it depends on the Oath and the story.

    But in the case of the Sidhe I do agree that it is important to note that the Arcadian Sidhe have never been reincarnated and so are still continuing their previous lives from before the shattering and thus Oaths given to them are still in effect. But my general ruling is that even in such a case Oath can only be called for a reincarnated Fae if the Sidhe in question truly knows who the reincarnated changeling was when giving the Oath and he reminds the commoner of his pacts owed. So either the commoner at that...
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    Last edited by Possessed; 06-26-2017, 10:05 AM.

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