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  • Beckett
    replied to Brujah clan weakness
    Im assuming it is saying you can spend a WP to get an automatic success to end the Frenzy, but Brujah can not do so preemptively like everyone else.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    In my opinion, the way to really fix the Tremere would be to completely rewrite their backstory and current social standing. Have them blunder through the early days by the skin of their fangs, making a lot of enemies, but not to the point of wanting them exterminated. Have them attempt to court the Ventrue against the Tzimisce only to have had the Ventrue playing both sides against each other.

    When the Camarilla came about, like the Setites, the Tremere were grudgingling extended an offer, but really had no choice, if they wanted to survive. The price was access to their tricks,...
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  • Level 2 and 10 are very similar, which is really odd to me as they are almost completely opposite sides of the spectrum.

    I also find Questioning Destiny a bad Sin because questioning, I would think would be manditory for discovering your own or other's destiny, which almost every other sin revolves around.

    The other issue I have is that destiny is fate, and end result. If anyone or anything altered destiny, would that then have been fate all along, and the followers of this Path the ones who are actually unwriting what was suppossed to be by preventing crucial things...
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  • My initial thought is that "destiny" is far to vague, ans I don't really like the hipocritical approach of its ok to mess with someone elses destiny if they are messing with anorher's destiny.

    9 and 4 are mutually exclisive ith 7, and 3 isn't on friendly terms either. 7 needs to be changed.

    Overall, without a more clear idea on destiny itself, I would say far too permitting, but Im not familiar with your show or book, so that might play into it.
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  • I would not think it would be too difficult to figure out there might be a connection between a given family and an opposing Clan, though it might not be clear just how connected they are. I mean if you are watching the enemies moves, you will probably take note that they pay a bit more attention to certain individuals, and setting up alternate identities (to tranfer your wealth to once you grow too old for one) is fairly common. I wouldn't think it would be too unreasonable to assume Vito Milliner who hangs out with the Giovanni was probably Vito Giovanni before.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Locating Enoch
    The point I'm trying to make is not that the books never state the location, but rather that they do not, (as far as I recall, but could be wrong), do some basic things such as offer reasons why such things fail. Again, from an in game perspective, has no one ever tried this? Is there a reason modern archeology techniques (that can be used in the Underworld) have been unsucessful or just no one has bothered?

    I don't mind the answer being unclear, I'm just pointing out you would think some possibilities for common sense solutions might be mentioned as unreliable or conflicting.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Locating Enoch
    I understand that, and I suspect that Umderworld Enoch is only the reflection of the idea of Enoch rather than Enoch itself, but what Im referring to is how this does not seemed to be touched upon In Game.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    ???
    It probably was not intended as snarky....
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    Last edited by Beckett; 06-12-2018, 05:29 AM.

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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    There are a few sides to this. Firstly, the Assamitr Sorcerers didn't fully want to bteak the curse, because it was keeping the Warriors in check. Its speculated that they might have known how, and didn't, or gotten close but held back from finally doing it, but then Ur-Shulgi woke up and added his power to it and it was done.

    Being that Ur-Shulgi is the most powerful blood mage on the planet, far beyond even Tremere, Im not sure this is particularly surprizing.

    However, my personal belief is that Ur-Shulgi is actually a Baali, not Assamite, and what he actually did was...
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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    But there are a few reasons that Tremere Thaumaturgy is different than all others. Namely that because Tremere Thaumaturgy is based off of Occult Science, it can learn the styles/effects of other forms of Blood Magic and mimic or improve them.

    Secondarily, Tremere Thaumaturgy can utilize past principles to create new Paths, or at least very much more quickly. Other forms of Thaumaturgy are pretty much locked as is, and sometimes require additional catalysts, while the Tremere's versions do not.

    I think the real quest is who in their right mind would choose to have super...
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  • Beckett
    replied to I don't get the Sabbat
    A good way to think about it, and this is true across the board, is that 1st Ed was throwing a lot of ideas at the wall and seeing what stuck. 2nd Ed started to take many of those ideas that stuck and flush them out more, but is also when ideas like "everything and everyone is evil, corrupt, or manipulating, you just have to look harder" and also when some of the really rediculous material started coming out. A lot of it was good in concept, just really more editing and thought to tone down. Revised did a lot of that, introducing a lot of in world reasons to help moderate some of the...
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  • Granted, it is suspected, but sort of proves my point. V20 kind of touches on past material, but then veers away from it, too.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    I think, for Thaumaturgy, a better solution would be to have a lot of the other groups have more exclusive paths the Tremere can not access.

    Making Thaumaturgy an Out of Clan Discipline even for Tremere might also help balance it some.

    Just moderate it comes with a few problems. Moderation is subjective, and what one person feels is a proper amount, others will feel is too much and others not enough. It has also been a known issue from day one, along with other aspects of the Clan, (no wealness, crunch not supporting fluff, etc). Past a games 2nd Ed, just house rule it...
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    Last edited by Beckett; 06-11-2018, 03:02 AM.

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  • That last part kind of makes me sad.
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  • Its a bit garbled. We have the 1st-Revised plot and the V20 plotish, and the two diverge.

    1st-Revised: Surviving Capps in Kaymakli utilized high level Necromancy/Mortis to enter the underworld with the intent of escaping the cursed door. It worked, but instead of exiting in their own time, they exited in the Final Nights. The trip had severely aged them, in the Vampiric sense, causing their Clan Weakness to severely escilate from death palor to mummified corpses. They learned about what had all transpired and joined the Sabbat only to gain allies. Some hated the Camarilla, some did...
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  • Beckett
    replied to Why people hate the tremere?
    What you are describing is not what has ever been presented in the game Modern VtM or Dark Ages.

    While it might make sense for the Tremere, most of the details are nearly the exact opposite of how it actually happened.
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  • Beckett
    replied to Locating Enoch
    Something I always thought was interesting is how the Underworld Enoch did mot have any sort of i dicators that might help locate the actual site. If, say the Empire State Building appeared in the underworld, you might expect it to come with a street or two at it's boarder, but Enoch doesn't seem to contain anything, even within it to give a clue. Not even types of rocks, wood, or animal bones that could only be found in a certain area.

    As for the location of Enoch in the WoD, it could kind of anywhere, between continental shifts, Mages possibly completely rewritting ancient history,...
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  • Kind of, maybe.
    Its all that stupid shit with unreliable narrator.
    I am aware of most of V20s changes, I just don't really follow them, as definitive, per se.

    I wouldn't doubt there is also an unhealthy dose of either being completely unaware of some prior material (understandable as the game had been dead a long while and went through 3 editions plus the whole WoD) or wanting to get personal house setting ideas in canon print to....
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  • Beckett
    replied to I don't get the Sabbat
    You are partially right, but there is a lot more to it. It started with a lot of young vampires being enslaved by their sires. When danger came, the Sires would command their Childer to fight to the death to defend them, enforced by Dominate, Presence, and the Blood Bond, and then they themselves would flee to safety. That is why they hated the Elders, and largey why it was Lasombra and Tzimisce.

    The Sabbat does not believe titles or rank (on their own) hold much meaning. They also had some major Sabbat on Sabbat blood baths that almost destroyed the Sect. That is why they use Monamacy....
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  • So, V20 might have changed this, (or could be unaware of this), but the Harbingers of Skulls, Samedi, and Mla Watu ARE the Cappadocians.

    Some of the Cappadocians had failed to heed the call to the Feast of Folly while others survived inside the cave, escaping through powerful Necromancy that sent them forward in time, but aged them unnaturally.

    These are the Harbingers, along with some hidding with the Setites in Egypt. Its not that the Harbingers do not Embrace, but rather something changed, and newly Embraced Harbingers are actually the Samedi, possibly swapping out...
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    Last edited by Beckett; 06-08-2018, 03:40 PM.

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